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Hey gentlemen I hope I find you in good spirits.
I would typically document a field report in my journal as I like to keep all my notes in one place but I am in a transitional phase at the moment where I am going to hopefully wrap up a few projects I'm working on and shift my focus back onto my goals of building the dating/social life I desire.
Until I wrap up those projects and create some time to re-immerse myself and progress in pickup I will be posting in the regular FR section.
The projects I have been working on include building my professional network and finding opportunities to grow my skill set in sales so I can achieve my goal of making $100,000 my first year out of college (in sales obviously). This project has been extremely successful.
The second project I was working that I recently concluded was starting the first self-development student organization at my university. I failed to build the minimum quota of members/leaders for the organization to become registered within the deadline I set for myself and unfortunately had to cancel this endeavor for higher priorities (like making serious paper out of college).
Since I theoretically should now have more time freed up and a more structured predictable schedule I want to start refocusing on my dating/pickup goals. So hopefully as soon as the next week or two I will start a brand new journal with a brand new approach so I can achieve brand new progress in my pimping.
Without further ado here is my breakdown of last night.
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FR for Monday Night: Venue is an Upscale Lounge
Last night left me in a state of mixed emotions. Proud, pissed off, and a bit sad. I had three opportunities to leverage and make things happen, two of these interactions were really solid hooks and all were attractive women.
First Open of the Night
The first girl was a hot 30 year old girl that had drove over an hour out of her way to party on a Monday with her slutty friend... yeah she was down. This was the first girl that I opened this night and although she was attracted we just were having a boring interaction. I knew that if I left her, got more social momentum and came back I could probably pull a success here.
Problem was that she managed to find her way into VIP section with some dudes and it was hard to demonstrate social proof with her since she couldn't see and it was hard to access her (though not impossible).
I decided to socially engineer a way to get to her by meeting two more attractive women that were in their late late 20's and moving them right next to the VIP area and telling these new girls that were going to party with my friends in VIP. I figure that the guys in VIP would surely be open minded to having more hot girls join their party and I was going to be the guy introducing them to more hot girls which would likely get me access to party with them (and my original target) in VIP.
So I bring the girls right close to the entrance, I tell them to wait, and then I walk very purposely past the bullshit VIP ropes that block the entrance off. I walk straight past my target girl and her friend and introduce myself to the two guys in VIP, pump their ego a bit, and then tell them that they could use more hot girls and that I want to introduce them to the girls that I came with and we can party together.
These guys are from Saudi Arabia I believe and spoke poor English and had this weird off putting vibe and really just weren't that cool of people. They chose to decline meeting more two girls that were hotter than the girls they currently had. I guess some dudes just can't handle the swagger of being surrounded by sexy women.
Either way this derailed my plan to do what I am dubbing a "prisoner exchange" to pawn off the two new girls I brought in for the girl I wanted in their group. Obnoxious term I realize but makes me laugh.
The way this played out for the rest of the night whenever I happened to gander over towards their VIP is that my target girl was sitting down talking to her friend looking bored as fuck for about 80% of the night. I figured it'd be easy to peel her off and kept meeting new girls however at the end of the night when I went back to try and peel her out of VIP she had found a guy and was committing to some heavy makeout session so I decided to keep pursuing easier options.
The Entitled Hot Girl
This is the most entitled and silly hot girl I've ever met in Orlando to date. She was a stunner from Venezuela dressed to the nines so I go pop her open and exchange basic information.
She says something about how hot she is and how powerful her looks are in making men bow to their knees.
Oh it's game on little girl.
I tell her the story that RSD Derek told us at Summit about how you can purchase the most gorgeous womans vagina for $17 in Israel I believe it was. The moral being that a woman's vagina and beauty is merely worthless or near worthless at $17.
I tell this girl her vagina is only worth $17 in Israel and that I would pawn her off for less than that. She says that we're not in Israel and the men here go crazy for her. I tell her that all I would ever give her is hard dick and bubble gum and she gets upset but I can tell attracted simultaneously. She makes a remark to her friends (a girl and some chode buying drinks for the group) about what I just said. Funny enough they ignore her and I turn her back to me.
We engage in more heavy obnoxious banter and I could tell if I could out dominate her and have her submit I would own her and be able to move her anywhere in the club with me since I would have been the only guy in her life to not placate to her.
Unfortunately I pushed things a bit too far right at the heat of the moment when I knew the next sentence out of my mouth was the calling shot of the entire interaction and if I had the right comeback I would have her.
I went too far and told her something about pimping her as a prostitute on the streets and she didn't apparently enjoy this sentiment. I still could have turned this around but I was unable to recover fast enough, I stumbled over a word or two, and she immediately blew me out.
Damn I was fucking so close to making that happen I could just see it. The attraction growing in her eyes as I didn't react like every other man she's met in her life and then pushing it too far and stumbling over myself in my attempts to correct it. TOASTED. FUCK!
If I could do this over again: Instead of pushing the prostitute card to the hilt (which could have worked if I did it more eloquently and sarcastically) I would instead called her out on her real life situation perhaps something along these lines: "Girl look around you think this is special having your chode guy friend buys you drinks. That's insulting. You have all these loser dudes validating you vying for your attention but what you really want is the boss cool guy to not put up with your shit and like you for who you are and not just because you're hot. Here give me your hand. Do you remember my name? Here follow me my dear I will show you the way and the light." (then move her)
Honestly that could be touched up better but its off the top of my head. If you're reading this comment on how you would possibly re-frame this situation and if you were in my shoes. I think I'm overthinking how I should respond to this next time since it's still emotionally fresh. Chip in from a 3rd person perspective on a better way to handle this situation would have been.
Much love
Finding the Limit
Ugh. This one hurts to write up.
Okay so this was towards the end of the night and I was really working to get a girl to move with me so I could go do my prisoner exchange move to get my girl in VIP just because I thought it was a cool challenge to socially engineer. Same idea I go into VIP with a hot girl, introduce her to my target, and then pawn off the new girl for my target and lead the day.
So I wanted to see what would happen if I told my new girl of my plan from the onset if she might think that it would be a fun adventure to embark on. It would be if framed correctly.
Picture this. Four hot 22 year old girls dressed up from cute to sexy standing in a circle looking lively. I see the hottest one is a slim blonde in jeans, a cute sleeveless shirt that reveals her midriff, and a pair of heels that go with the outfit. I go tap her, get her turned around, and swoop in with fierce intent so fierce the friends literally put their hands up and back away in disbelief that this girl got approached by a boss dude. Friends give no resistance, no nothing. Just full acceptance that I'm going to lead the day with their friend.
Of course the girl lights up, hooks immediately, Bambi eyes, the works. She's in.
We trade a bit of information and at a peak moment I tell her my master plan to pawn her off for the girl I'm interested in. Yeah looking back not the smartest move but I wanted to see if I could get away with telling this information and subscribe her to the adventure.
She was massively offended, auto-rejected immediately, and gave me the reason that she has no desire to be a 2nd rate option. She said she wants to be my number 1 option or nothing. Damn I really like this girl now, however she had already auto-rejected and had gone back to her friends. Can't change my position now and be like "Oh I change my mind I really like you and I'm sorry for...". Nope! I made my bed, now I must sleep in it.
I think if I instead would have framed it as a more collaborative adventure (we're going to go the girl in VIP jealous just for fun of starting drama, get her chasing me/jealous of you, and then pawn off the jealous girl to the chode dudes she's with in VIP) rather than using her as a means to an end it would have been much more exciting and fun for both me and her in retrospect. Shit I could tell right off the bat I had better chemistry with this girl than the girl I wanted in VIP anyway.
Lesson: Be willing to be flexible in your plans and adjust on the cuff. There is always an option (in this case I found a girl I liked more than the girl in VIP but still could have caused a bit of drama [read fun] by creating a jealousy plot for me and my new girl to bond over) and be willing to change plans if a better option arises.
Lesson: Do not purposely alienate the girl if she is sweet and undeserving. Purposeful alienation should be used PURPOSELY to strip validation from girls that are being obnoxious/silly and need to right ship. Not to be used for sweet and undeserving girls that have done nothing to deserve offensive banter.
Instead get her to qualify herself, let her tell you all about her, and then go on a fun adventure as outlined previously.
All and all I'm glad I made this move because it was genuine and I didn't have the reference point for that scenario as to the social calibration and what I can get away with. Happy to learn that lesson and tuck in my pocket for next time out.
Keep it pimpin
-Rob
I would typically document a field report in my journal as I like to keep all my notes in one place but I am in a transitional phase at the moment where I am going to hopefully wrap up a few projects I'm working on and shift my focus back onto my goals of building the dating/social life I desire.
Until I wrap up those projects and create some time to re-immerse myself and progress in pickup I will be posting in the regular FR section.
The projects I have been working on include building my professional network and finding opportunities to grow my skill set in sales so I can achieve my goal of making $100,000 my first year out of college (in sales obviously). This project has been extremely successful.
The second project I was working that I recently concluded was starting the first self-development student organization at my university. I failed to build the minimum quota of members/leaders for the organization to become registered within the deadline I set for myself and unfortunately had to cancel this endeavor for higher priorities (like making serious paper out of college).
Since I theoretically should now have more time freed up and a more structured predictable schedule I want to start refocusing on my dating/pickup goals. So hopefully as soon as the next week or two I will start a brand new journal with a brand new approach so I can achieve brand new progress in my pimping.
Without further ado here is my breakdown of last night.
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FR for Monday Night: Venue is an Upscale Lounge
Last night left me in a state of mixed emotions. Proud, pissed off, and a bit sad. I had three opportunities to leverage and make things happen, two of these interactions were really solid hooks and all were attractive women.
First Open of the Night
The first girl was a hot 30 year old girl that had drove over an hour out of her way to party on a Monday with her slutty friend... yeah she was down. This was the first girl that I opened this night and although she was attracted we just were having a boring interaction. I knew that if I left her, got more social momentum and came back I could probably pull a success here.
Problem was that she managed to find her way into VIP section with some dudes and it was hard to demonstrate social proof with her since she couldn't see and it was hard to access her (though not impossible).
I decided to socially engineer a way to get to her by meeting two more attractive women that were in their late late 20's and moving them right next to the VIP area and telling these new girls that were going to party with my friends in VIP. I figure that the guys in VIP would surely be open minded to having more hot girls join their party and I was going to be the guy introducing them to more hot girls which would likely get me access to party with them (and my original target) in VIP.
So I bring the girls right close to the entrance, I tell them to wait, and then I walk very purposely past the bullshit VIP ropes that block the entrance off. I walk straight past my target girl and her friend and introduce myself to the two guys in VIP, pump their ego a bit, and then tell them that they could use more hot girls and that I want to introduce them to the girls that I came with and we can party together.
These guys are from Saudi Arabia I believe and spoke poor English and had this weird off putting vibe and really just weren't that cool of people. They chose to decline meeting more two girls that were hotter than the girls they currently had. I guess some dudes just can't handle the swagger of being surrounded by sexy women.
Either way this derailed my plan to do what I am dubbing a "prisoner exchange" to pawn off the two new girls I brought in for the girl I wanted in their group. Obnoxious term I realize but makes me laugh.
The way this played out for the rest of the night whenever I happened to gander over towards their VIP is that my target girl was sitting down talking to her friend looking bored as fuck for about 80% of the night. I figured it'd be easy to peel her off and kept meeting new girls however at the end of the night when I went back to try and peel her out of VIP she had found a guy and was committing to some heavy makeout session so I decided to keep pursuing easier options.
The Entitled Hot Girl
This is the most entitled and silly hot girl I've ever met in Orlando to date. She was a stunner from Venezuela dressed to the nines so I go pop her open and exchange basic information.
She says something about how hot she is and how powerful her looks are in making men bow to their knees.
Oh it's game on little girl.
I tell her the story that RSD Derek told us at Summit about how you can purchase the most gorgeous womans vagina for $17 in Israel I believe it was. The moral being that a woman's vagina and beauty is merely worthless or near worthless at $17.
I tell this girl her vagina is only worth $17 in Israel and that I would pawn her off for less than that. She says that we're not in Israel and the men here go crazy for her. I tell her that all I would ever give her is hard dick and bubble gum and she gets upset but I can tell attracted simultaneously. She makes a remark to her friends (a girl and some chode buying drinks for the group) about what I just said. Funny enough they ignore her and I turn her back to me.
We engage in more heavy obnoxious banter and I could tell if I could out dominate her and have her submit I would own her and be able to move her anywhere in the club with me since I would have been the only guy in her life to not placate to her.
Unfortunately I pushed things a bit too far right at the heat of the moment when I knew the next sentence out of my mouth was the calling shot of the entire interaction and if I had the right comeback I would have her.
I went too far and told her something about pimping her as a prostitute on the streets and she didn't apparently enjoy this sentiment. I still could have turned this around but I was unable to recover fast enough, I stumbled over a word or two, and she immediately blew me out.
Damn I was fucking so close to making that happen I could just see it. The attraction growing in her eyes as I didn't react like every other man she's met in her life and then pushing it too far and stumbling over myself in my attempts to correct it. TOASTED. FUCK!
If I could do this over again: Instead of pushing the prostitute card to the hilt (which could have worked if I did it more eloquently and sarcastically) I would instead called her out on her real life situation perhaps something along these lines: "Girl look around you think this is special having your chode guy friend buys you drinks. That's insulting. You have all these loser dudes validating you vying for your attention but what you really want is the boss cool guy to not put up with your shit and like you for who you are and not just because you're hot. Here give me your hand. Do you remember my name? Here follow me my dear I will show you the way and the light." (then move her)
Honestly that could be touched up better but its off the top of my head. If you're reading this comment on how you would possibly re-frame this situation and if you were in my shoes. I think I'm overthinking how I should respond to this next time since it's still emotionally fresh. Chip in from a 3rd person perspective on a better way to handle this situation would have been.
Much love
Finding the Limit
Ugh. This one hurts to write up.
Okay so this was towards the end of the night and I was really working to get a girl to move with me so I could go do my prisoner exchange move to get my girl in VIP just because I thought it was a cool challenge to socially engineer. Same idea I go into VIP with a hot girl, introduce her to my target, and then pawn off the new girl for my target and lead the day.
So I wanted to see what would happen if I told my new girl of my plan from the onset if she might think that it would be a fun adventure to embark on. It would be if framed correctly.
Picture this. Four hot 22 year old girls dressed up from cute to sexy standing in a circle looking lively. I see the hottest one is a slim blonde in jeans, a cute sleeveless shirt that reveals her midriff, and a pair of heels that go with the outfit. I go tap her, get her turned around, and swoop in with fierce intent so fierce the friends literally put their hands up and back away in disbelief that this girl got approached by a boss dude. Friends give no resistance, no nothing. Just full acceptance that I'm going to lead the day with their friend.
Of course the girl lights up, hooks immediately, Bambi eyes, the works. She's in.
We trade a bit of information and at a peak moment I tell her my master plan to pawn her off for the girl I'm interested in. Yeah looking back not the smartest move but I wanted to see if I could get away with telling this information and subscribe her to the adventure.
She was massively offended, auto-rejected immediately, and gave me the reason that she has no desire to be a 2nd rate option. She said she wants to be my number 1 option or nothing. Damn I really like this girl now, however she had already auto-rejected and had gone back to her friends. Can't change my position now and be like "Oh I change my mind I really like you and I'm sorry for...". Nope! I made my bed, now I must sleep in it.
I think if I instead would have framed it as a more collaborative adventure (we're going to go the girl in VIP jealous just for fun of starting drama, get her chasing me/jealous of you, and then pawn off the jealous girl to the chode dudes she's with in VIP) rather than using her as a means to an end it would have been much more exciting and fun for both me and her in retrospect. Shit I could tell right off the bat I had better chemistry with this girl than the girl I wanted in VIP anyway.
Lesson: Be willing to be flexible in your plans and adjust on the cuff. There is always an option (in this case I found a girl I liked more than the girl in VIP but still could have caused a bit of drama [read fun] by creating a jealousy plot for me and my new girl to bond over) and be willing to change plans if a better option arises.
Lesson: Do not purposely alienate the girl if she is sweet and undeserving. Purposeful alienation should be used PURPOSELY to strip validation from girls that are being obnoxious/silly and need to right ship. Not to be used for sweet and undeserving girls that have done nothing to deserve offensive banter.
Instead get her to qualify herself, let her tell you all about her, and then go on a fun adventure as outlined previously.
All and all I'm glad I made this move because it was genuine and I didn't have the reference point for that scenario as to the social calibration and what I can get away with. Happy to learn that lesson and tuck in my pocket for next time out.
Keep it pimpin
-Rob
