Creating Friends Going Out Alone

[Smurf]

What's up guys.

I've been going out alone more often than not recently and was wondering how you guys go about making friends at night. Most of my conversations that aren't with girls I'm interested in go no where and at most I create social proof and nothing more. When I get phone numbers they usually end up not panning out to much in terms of people I see again. I've made a few loose connections but I'm not sure what to do with them.

Any thoughts would be awesome!

Jake.

 

[Sandman]

Just spend time with them as you would with your buddies, grab their fb if you want ask them another time if they wanna go out. Building a comnection is important of course via deep diving. People are usually thrilled to meet someone who is chill, down to earth and having a good time.

What kind of clubs do you go to? I made a lot of friends in edm clubs but the environment there is very friendly. People share everything, cigarettes, booze, drugs etc...

 

[Mr.Rob]

Jake,

I find the best way to make guy friends out alone (assuming you want a wingman to pimp it with) is to go talk to girls with those guys and earn their respect by doing some approaches they probably wouldn't do themselves and then introducing them to girls they wouldn't have met otherwise. Make sure you get them talking to hot girls (assuming they have an inkling of game) and keep the group energy going. Be prepared to do most of the leading ("hey lets all go sit down over and grab a table", "hey lets go grab a nightcap at Jimbo's place") so make sure you keep tabs on what everyone's dynamic is (i.e. if your new friend Chad is the weak link and you can tell his girl is losing interest involve the girl in the conversation and improve her mood).

Basically you make their night ten times better by having met you since now their meeting more hot girls than they would've without you, if your bringing the energy there having more fun than they would've without you, and if your ballsy your now this crazy ballsy guy that gets girls and just says whatever to the hottest girls in the club and pulls it off. That's what I go for at least.

Then at the end of the night if you've really had some cool experiences with said new friends, even if you don't all pull girls for sex, you just say "guys this has been a sweet night we need to do it again tomorrow or (X day). You guys ever been to xyz place on Mondays? Dude the hottest girls of the city and the best music, you gotta check it out. Give me your phone # and we'll go pimp it at the (X awesome club) on Monday."

Bring them value and they'll be much more likely to hang out again. Value for guys is hot women, positive fun energy, and status (no one wants a lower status friend).

Your goal is to try to get them laid and have them see you do some ballsy gangster pimpin'. Depending on how much game and status these guys have will depend on how "WOW"'ed they'll be by you. If there less good with women and not ultra high status then you'll be coming in above their level (which is easier to make friends with in my experience). If they're good with women and higher status then you'll be matching their level much more and at that point the value your bringing is more a matter of "do I click with this guy and have good chemistry and a wingman or not" (which is really the ideal situation in making friends).

Last note is another good way to make guy friends is to find out what their interested in and if you guys click propose that you go do xyz other cool activity together soon (i.e. if you both surf then go surf when the surf is up). Seeing each other doing different activities will yield more investment and now you aren't pidgeonholed into the "this is my friend I go to bars with" but are more or less have a foundation to be actual friends.

-Rob

 

[Yhaceed]

Jake,

I haven't done this much lately but I made a few loose connections too when I went out. And before it never worked out well til after I started reading articles on this website. It might be easiest if it's an activity like I went out and played chess at a chess park. It's just the follow up I've been bad at or getting contact information. Another time I met a guy in a bar that was an actor (I didn't recognize him which probably helped ) and maybe if I provided more value that would have worked out too because he said I'd invite you to join us but he wasn't sure his friends would be ok with it. It was a whole big group and there were two girls near us, friends of his, that if I'd just didn't sort of freeze up and have spoken to them too I migh have been at their table if they liked me. This was unusual for me because I'm never invited to anything like that. It was the same for Chase. See this article if you haven't: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-g ... y-hopeless . My first time it was the same deal almost. This guy was with his gf and family and I didn't talk to everybody except a couple introductions I think. We chatted for a while but he had to rejoin them. I think a big key for me was just making eye contact and some people will just get real chatty and it's pretty easy to talk then if they let you get a word in. Also I'm learning when you're talking to some people and you feel like the conversation is going nowhere then just leave but if they seem interested in your company then stick around otherwise they'll feel like something's wrong or maybe wonder why you're leaving too soon. I think you can get a feeling about this in the first few seconds then you don't have to waste a lot of time. That's been my case a few times. Anyway I hope this helps.

~Yhaceed

 

[Smurf]

Sandman,

Just spend time with them as you would with your buddies, grab their fb if you want ask them another time if they wanna go out. Building a comnection is important of course via deep diving. People are usually thrilled to meet someone who is chill, down to earth and having a good time.

What kind of clubs do you go to? I made a lot of friends in edm clubs but the environment there is very friendly. People share everything, cigarettes, booze, drugs etc...

I try and go everywhere to get the most well rounded social skills, but I do go to EDM events quite a bit. Think I'll bring a pack of cigarettes and a lighter to the show I'm going to on Saturday. You make some awesome points about being chill. I'll definitely try that out wherever I go tonight.

Rob,

Jake,

I find the best way to make guy friends out alone (assuming you want a wingman to pimp it with) is to go talk to girls with those guys and earn their respect by doing some approaches they probably wouldn't do themselves and then introducing them to girls they wouldn't have met otherwise. Make sure you get them talking to hot girls (assuming they have an inkling of game) and keep the group energy going. Be prepared to do most of the leading ("hey lets all go sit down over and grab a table", "hey lets go grab a nightcap at Jimbo's place") so make sure you keep tabs on what everyone's dynamic is (i.e. if your new friend Chad is the weak link and you can tell his girl is losing interest involve the girl in the conversation and improve her mood).

Basically you make their night ten times better by having met you since now their meeting more hot girls than they would've without you, if your bringing the energy there having more fun than they would've without you, and if your ballsy your now this crazy ballsy guy that gets girls and just says whatever to the hottest girls in the club and pulls it off. That's what I go for at least.

Then at the end of the night if you've really had some cool experiences with said new friends, even if you don't all pull girls for sex, you just say "guys this has been a sweet night we need to do it again tomorrow or (X day). You guys ever been to xyz place on Mondays? Dude the hottest girls of the city and the best music, you gotta check it out. Give me your phone # and we'll go pimp it at the (X awesome club) on Monday."

Bring them value and they'll be much more likely to hang out again. Value for guys is hot women, positive fun energy, and status (no one wants a lower status friend).

Your goal is to try to get them laid and have them see you do some ballsy gangster pimpin'. Depending on how much game and status these guys have will depend on how "WOW"'ed they'll be by you. If there less good with women and not ultra high status then you'll be coming in above their level (which is easier to make friends with in my experience). If they're good with women and higher status then you'll be matching their level much more and at that point the value your bringing is more a matter of "do I click with this guy and have good chemistry and a wingman or not" (which is really the ideal situation in making friends).

Last note is another good way to make guy friends is to find out what their interested in and if you guys click propose that you go do xyz other cool activity together soon (i.e. if you both surf then go surf when the surf is up). Seeing each other doing different activities will yield more investment and now you aren't pidgeonholed into the "this is my friend I go to bars with" but are more or less have a foundation to be actual friends.

-Rob

I think that's a good strategy, get the guy talking to girls. I actually got a girl I was talking to chatting with some other people I had met on Wednesday and it seemed to work well. Definitely will try that out!

I find it almost easier to approach if I'm trying to "merge sets" or bring the girls over to someone else. Still working out why that is.

I'll definitely try that out tonight and tell you how it works out!

Yhaceed,

Jake,

I haven't done this much lately but I made a few loose connections too when I went out. And before it never worked out well til after I started reading articles on this website. It might be easiest if it's an activity like I went out and played chess at a chess park. It's just the follow up I've been bad at or getting contact information. Another time I met a guy in a bar that was an actor (I didn't recognize him which probably helped ) and maybe if I provided more value that would have worked out too because he said I'd invite you to join us but he wasn't sure his friends would be ok with it. It was a whole big group and there were two girls near us, friends of his, that if I'd just didn't sort of freeze up and have spoken to them too I migh have been at their table if they liked me. This was unusual for me because I'm never invited to anything like that. It was the same for Chase. See this article if you haven't: https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-g ... y-hopeless . My first time it was the same deal almost. This guy was with his gf and family and I didn't talk to everybody except a couple introductions I think. We chatted for a while but he had to rejoin them. I think a big key for me was just making eye contact and some people will just get real chatty and it's pretty easy to talk then if they let you get a word in. Also I'm learning when you're talking to some people and you feel like the conversation is going nowhere then just leave but if they seem interested in your company then stick around otherwise they'll feel like something's wrong or maybe wonder why you're leaving too soon. I think you can get a feeling about this in the first few seconds then you don't have to waste a lot of time. That's been my case a few times. Anyway I hope this helps.

~Yhaceed

Thanks for the tips, man. I sometimes find it advantageous to leave and then return later. Makes them feel like you're not just gonna tag along for the night and gives them a chance to miss your company.

Thanks guys, gonna try it out tonight/tomorrow!

Jake.

 

[Smurf]

Merging sets worked out well. Had one of my smoothest opens of all time last night. Just walked up, sat on this railing and engaged this girl. Was perfect, it looked like we already knew each other. Too bad she had a boyfriend. Working out kinks in the system but it's reaping nice results so far.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Mr. Rob has suggested a great idea that can work and it is one the best ideas I have seen proposed on here. The only possible caveat to it is that you might have to sacrifice some quality yourself as you will run into guys that will want to get the same hot girl you want and some guys can be ungrateful jerks, they will take value from you as long as possible and never give back.

Nightlife is so competitive that most guys are there to take and not really there to make friends, if they are not there to chase pussy then they're there to chill with the friends they came with.

What I will suggest is to find an activity that is popular among younger people of your city and then take part in it. In some cities I've found it is co-ed sports while in others it can be church groups (more common in the south). Take a couple months to do that activity and then see how many guys in there you can "click" with and are on the same wavelength as you. You will eventually start to find some cool guys in these groups who are just getting settled into the new city.