Hey friends!
I'm currently travelling South and South East Asia. I'm in China at the moment, and have been having a lot of success with an app called Tantan, which is similar to Tinder. I managed to pull 3 times within the period of 5 days, something which I'm extremely pleased about.
I met up with 26 year old Yang in Xi'an. She's about 5'3, Chinese, with a petite frame, cute smile, and beautiful eyes. Very gorgeous and sexy. She was dressed exceptionally fashionably, and she looked like she was on her way to a gala, rather than on a coffee date with me. We agreed to meet up in a busy area in Xi'an at 7pm. At 6.55pm, she messaged me: "7.30" and sent me a bunch of voice messages in Chinese which I didn't entirely understand. If there's one thing I absolutely detest, it's people who change the meeting time at the absolute last minute without warning. In any case, I wasn't too worked up, because I was just on my phone reading up on some Girls Chase articles that I had summarised. At 7.34pm I texted her to ask if she was close, but she said that she was still on her way. At 7.45pm she texted me saying that she'd be 15 more minutes. At this point I was quite unhappy and close to auto rejection. Arriving an hour late to a meet is completely unacceptable in my eyes. I read up on Chase's article on what to do if a girl is late, and I decided to not be bitter and play along as if she had been on time. We ended up meeting at 8.10pm, outside Starbucks. She apologised for being late, and said a bunch of stuff in Chinese which I didn't entirely understand. I managed to pump out good vibes, such that I didn't seem at all upset about her being late. I asked her what her name was, and we introduced. I clasped her hand and leaned in for the cheek-cheek kiss, which seemed to enchant her. At this point, it had been a while since I'd eaten, and I was feeling hungry, so we decided to have dinner. We had light small talk along the way. From her eyes, I could tell that Yang was quite attracted to me. At one point she asked me how old I was. "21?" She asked. She already knew this because it's listed on my Tantan profile. She told me she was 26, which I reassured her was a good age. Yang's personality was definitely very interesting. For starters, she seemed to like to take the role of leadership. She decisively led us to the restaurant and picked us a seat. She sat next to me as we decided on what to order. When the food arrived, she told me in Chinese and gestured with her chopsticks, "eat". I found it to be quite and amusing. Even though my Chinese is terrible, I think close to 2 weeks in China has definitely improved my spoken Chinese. We managed to communicate well mostly, but also relied a lot on translator apps on our phones.
Yang was very interested in me. She asked me all these really curious, border line intrusive questions. At one point, she asked me "how many girls have you met with on Tantan?" I kind of laughed at the question as I thought it was silly. I later told her that I'd been on 3 dates. She was really curious about my past 3 dates. My reasoning is that she probably thought that I was a bit of slut, and that she was just another number to her. Therefore, my intention was to make her feel special and I qualified her a lot as a result. I told her that the girls I had went on dates with were nice, but not very interesting. Her follow up question was adorable. "So you think I am interesting then?"
Along came more questions. "Do you have a girlfriend?" she asked me. I didn't know know how to say it in Chinese, so I typed it out for her on Google translate: 'I think it's funny that you ask that question.' She responded with, "I'm just curious!" I typed out, 'I'd say that yes. You are curious.' (A line I stole from Chase). She blushed and laughed upon reading that message. She also asked if I liked Chinese girls, and I responded with "I think you already know the answer to that question." She seemed to really want the confirmation that in fact yes, I was attracted to her. At one point she was incredibly persistent with finding out where I was staying. Most people just ask, "So where abouts are you staying?" But this was another level. I only knew the English name of my hostel, so she asked to look at my key card to read the Chinese name, and spent a minute looking up the address on her phone. Some escalation windows, huh.
She asked me a lot of questions about me; for instance about my travelling and my romance life. At one point I decided that there was too much spotlight on me. But I did enjoy the fact that she was extremely curious about me. I then proceeded to deep dive her a little about her travels and her job. She told me that she was a clothing design teacher at a university. This explained her striking dress sense. I complimented her dress sense and said in Chinese, "thank you for dressing up for me." She coyly laughed and said that she dressed like this everyday. I think my chase frames have added effect in Chinese, because a lot of girls think that my spoken Chinese is very cute and endearing.
I was trying out my piercing eye gaze during my dinner with Yang. Normally I liked to put on cute, sweet eyes, with a slight smirk to the left, and a head tilt; but this time I tried something different. I made my eye contact more piercing and I squinted my eyes less. My smile was much more subtle. The look I was going for was one teeming with desire, and anticipation. She seemed to enjoy my look very much, and I noticed microgestures on her face of delight and desire.
We then split the bill and decided to go for coffee. We walked along for about 15 seconds with my hand on the small of her back. I then grabbed onto her hand and we walked hands interlocked to the coffee shop. I was absolutely busting at this point so I went to the bathroom before I ordered. We went upstairs to a comfortable seating area, sitting next to each other. We continued our conversation, but this time the vibe felt more intimate and sensual as we were now able to touch each other. At one point I went to inspect her bracelets and huge ring on her finger and enquired about them. I also mentioned that I liked bracelets too and I mentioned I carried them around with me in my bag. This seemed to excite her greatly, and she asked me to put on my bracelets to show her. I put them on and this seemed to please her. She then proceeded to take many selfies of us, and she said I looked very handsome without glasses, and with curtained hair. At one instance, she went to the bathroom. When she came back, her dress had fallen off her shoulder slightly. Because of the way we were seated, I had full view of her right boob, as it was slightly unattached to her bra. Her tit was small, perky and her areola was milky and looked absolutely delicious. Thoughts of railing her brains out instantly entered my mind. Instant hard on right there. A few seconds later, she realised that her boob was sticking out, and seemed embarrassed. I let her save face and pretended that I didn't notice. We were both very touchy with each other, and at one instance I was running my fingers through her hair. I found her extremble desirable.
Eventually she asked me if I wanted to watched a movie. I agreed to, and I asked her what genres she liked. I suggested that we should watch a movie at her place, and asked her if she had any good ones. She said that she used her iPad to watch movies, but couldn't watch them at her place because she was living with her parents. I suggested going to her place to get her iPad, and watching the movie at my place instead. I was glad that I'd booked a private ensuite. She instead suggested we watch something on her phone instead of her iPad, so we didn't need to drop by her place. I agreed. She then asked if I had a TV in my room. I did. 'Oh duh' went off in my mind. I could've just simplified the pull and proposed watching TV in my room. We finished our drinks and went to get a taxi.
The transition was alright, but not great. She was constantly voice messaging her brother on WeChat (she messaged him frequently throughout most of the date actually). We didn't really talk to much in the taxi. At one point I zoned out and she asked, "Are you falling asleep?" This set off alarms in my head and I decided to put more effort into smoothing out the transition. I held onto her hand and caressed it, and went on to make pull-talk about how beautiful Xi'an was at night.
The situation that happened when we entered hostel reception was hilarious. Instead of getting down to business, Yang decided to confront the receptionist. At dinner, I was telling her how my shower was cold in my room, and Yang decided to authoritatively rectify the situation. The whole conversation was carried out in Chinese, which I didn't fully understand so I just played dumb.
My room was a mess and smelled terrible which was slightly embarrassing. I decided to clean up a bit and went to the bathroom. Meanwhile Yang went to charge her phone and was voice messaging her brother. I didn't know exactly what she was talking about, but in retrospect she was probably telling her brother where she was and what she was doing. Apparently her mother was worried she wasn't home yet and it was already past midnight. After I was done cleaning, I sat on the bed and watched some pool. Yang in the meanwhile was messaging her brother and walking around doing her own thing. She decided to light up a cigarette, in my non-smoking room, so I told her to do so in the bathroom.
By the time this was all done, it had been around 10 minutes and it was time to make a move. I told Yang to join me in bed, but she was sitting pretty far away from me. I could tell by her body language that she was slightly on the defensive. We fluffed talked a little bit, and at one point I pulled her in by the hand and leaned in for a kiss. She pulled back completely and I didn't even land her cheek. Still, I didn't flinch and just completely changed the subject. I decided that I would make her feel comfortable with me. Something that I have been experimenting with is putting on my 'sweet talk', where I do the majority of the talking and voice my opinion on an arbitrary topic. The purpose of this is to make her feel comfortable. My tone of voice would be soft, gentle and cute, almost like a child. I don't know if this is technically sound, but girls seemed to like it so I gave it a try. I proceeded to talk about how much I loved dogs and that I wanted a golden retriever more than anything in the world. (This is true. Golden retrievers are a blessing to the world!) I went on to explain that my living situation was such that it wouldn't be suitable for me to raise one. My tone of voice was cute and almost childlike, such that I was upset that I couldn't have an dog. My movements were cute and almost coy, as I leaned on the bed, not pursuing her. I noticed that this seemed to make her extremely comfortable with me. She began to touch me and seemed at ease with me. Success. She told me that I should get an dog in the future, and I told her that I would one day, upon settling down with a stable job and a wife. She began to ask me what attributes I liked in a potential wife. I told her that she needed to be cute, beautiful, light-hearted, and not too serious. I could tell that Yang was trying to qualify herself to my standards, which was cute. When I said that my dream girl needed to be beautiful, I gazed into her eyes cutely and gently smirked. She responded with "Oh! Do you think I am beautiful?" Continuing on with this 'cute' thing I had going on, I told her that I thought that she was very cute, especially with her broken English. All the while I landeded sweet cheek kisses, and she was starting to succumb to my persistence. She said that she thought I was very cool, and I used this a reason to reward her with a peck on the lips.
At one point she was really curious to see pictures of previous girls that I'd met on Tantan. I told her that she was silly and that I didn't want to, playfully. But she was so curious and persistent that I eventually succumbed. "Please! I want to see! If you do I'll give you a kiss." I eventually agreed, and she gave me a fast peck on the lips. I wasn't satisfied with this, so I demanded a real kiss, and enjoyed the softness of her tongue for a short while. I showed her pictures of my past dates, including the "dream girl" I matched with and hooked up with 3 nights before. I told her that my last 2 matches were nice, but I didn't vibe too well with them. This was of course a lie, but I needed to make sure that Yang felt special. Normally I don't believe that lying should be used in seduction, but given how persistent she was with a (private) subject, and how telling the truth would probably not have been received well, I lied. She also asked me when I lost my virginity. I told her that I didn't want to tell her, and I asked her. She said she lost hers at the age of 18. She persisted with asking when I lost the V-card and I told her I lost it at 19. She guessed that it would've 16 for me. I took it as a compliment that my sexual vibe was on point.
At this point Yang was quite warmed up and I told her to lay in bed with me and cuddle. She obliged. I began to hug onto her body, caressing her thighs, and breasts and hands, whilst landing kisses on her cheek. Whilst massaging her thighs, I came close to her pussy a couple of times, but she did not flinch. I thought that maybe I could've gotten away with easing my way to her pussy, but I reasoned that slow and steady was the superior option. She then proceeded to watch hip hop music videos on her phone for some reason, so she was focused on the music videos instead of me. I decided to play this escalation slowly, and focussing on getting her accustomed to my touch so I played along. At one point, I was watching some videos with her and occasionally pecking her on the lips, before I decided to give her a massage. I got her on her stomach and pulled up her shirt/dress thing and I massaged her back and kissed it. She was wearing high waisted slacks, so I unzipped them from the side to better access her back. She then asked me to massage her shoulders, so I removed her top and proceeded to. Afterwards, she gave me a back massage, which turned me on. I let out some quiet deep moans. I then turned around to massage her again, this time with the intent of massaging her ass and eventually her pussy. Much to my dismay she said that she had to go because of curfew. I persisted in getting her to stay, because I thought she was so desirable and I wanted her very much.
She said that she had to be home because of her mother. It was already 1.20am, and she said that her mother would not be able to sleep if she wasn't at home. I then put on my cute childish persona again, as if to throw a small cute tantrum. I told her to stay and cuddle me more. In each instance she cuddled me and I kissed her. She said she had to go again, but I told her to stay a little while longer and told her to kiss me. At this point, she was kissing me on her own volition. It was a nice feeling. Her kissing was not very good, because she was too jumpy and fast. I told her to slow it way down, and she followed my lead, where each lip lock last 5 seconds at least. I began to moan and massaged her body, trying to turn her on, but no dice. She really had to go, so she stood up and checked her phone whilst I massaged her thigh with both hands near her pussy with no resistance. I couldn't help but think that if I pushed and bit faster, I could've turned her on and escalated to sex, but to be fair I didn't realise that she had curfew either. She said that she wanted to meet with me again. We kissed a bit more and I led her downstairs to the taxi.
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Overall, I think the date went pretty well. Some finishing thoughts:
Pros:
- The flow of the pull seemed to be structured quite naturally.
- Even though I was completely blown out at the first kiss attempt, I did not flinch and remained calm and continued to persist.
- I made her feel very comfortable during the escalation. I realised she needed to feel comfortable and be able to let her hair down before she could be turned on. I finally realise the full importance of it, after many sabotaged dates because I neglected this key factor. I think my cute persona really put her at ease.
- My fundamentals were good, I felt that my conversational ability was good despite the fact that I had to game in my second language. My slowness and masculinity (not including the cute bit at the end) seemed to be strong. I had good eye contact and body posturing, and my frame seemed steady.
- My physical escalation after the first kiss seemed smooth. She seemed delighted to cuddle me and enjoyed it when I caressed her body.
- I persisted strongly. One of my weak points is persisting strongly, partially due to the fact that I subconsciously believe that persisting puts me at a disadvantage because I am chasing. However, putting on my cute, plauful persona made persisting seem like a game, and actually seemed fun. This was a good learning experience for strong persisting.
- When she asked me all those personal questions about myself, I used chase framing to frame her as the pursuer.
- I very heavily qualified her and rewarded her, making her feel desired and special, and not just another Tantan girl.
Primary things I could've improved upon:
- I think chase frames can be used to strong effect, but I didn't do enough. I think if I playfully included more chase framing, I could've spikes her attraction levels.
- I could have done more to turn her on, with sexual humour and a stronger sexual vibe.
- My initial first kiss was bad. Probably seemed premeditated and our proxmity was a little too far away.
- Transition into the taxi ride home was not ideal.
Thoughts on my playful, cute, childish persona:
This persona is inspired by my non-monogamous girlfriend back at home. When she wants me to do something she acts extremely childishly cute (almost caricature of a little child) and cutely begs me in a childish way. She would be extremely persistent and never seem to stop. The catch is though, it's really hard to say no to her when she acts like this, because she acts so childish and treats it like a game. Just like a little child annoying an adult. I think this is something I put to use in overcoming LMR, albeit too a much lesser extent.
I enjoy this playful persona because I like to be cute around girls. Anyway, the basis of this chilish persona, is speaking in a high pitched, enthusiatic, yet soft voice. I voice my opinion on an arbitrary topic, and do most of the talking while the girl listens. In the mix while I'm doing my sweet talk in this persona, I would caress her body, and kiss on the lips and cheek in between. The vibe is very playful and cute.
I've noticed that there are several pros and cons to this persona:
Pros:
- Seems to function excellently in making girls comfortable during sexual escalation.
- Reduces LMR pretty effectively.
- Persistence becomes cute and fun. Even if she rebuffs your advances, your value does not seem to be damaged because you are taking on a persona of a cute child. Persistence is playful and cute.
- It is extremely playful.
- It is disarming.
- Some girls have absolutely loved it, when escalasting on them in a cute way.
Cons:
- It is not masculine.
- It is very childish and slightly feminine.
- It reduces sexual tension.
Anyway this childish persona is a new thing I'm currently experimenting with. I think it adds another layer to my personality - one that's sweet and cute. This may be useful in conjunction with my non-cute vibe throughout the majority of the date. Anyway. I've got a lot of conjecture, but I need some more experiences to confirm my thoughts. Will definitely test this out more in the future.
Things I learnt:
- How to more effectively build comfort.
- How to persist effectively.
This have been a long one, so thanks for reading if you've stucked around till the end! Let me know what thoughts you guys might have.
Jeffrey
I'm currently travelling South and South East Asia. I'm in China at the moment, and have been having a lot of success with an app called Tantan, which is similar to Tinder. I managed to pull 3 times within the period of 5 days, something which I'm extremely pleased about.
I met up with 26 year old Yang in Xi'an. She's about 5'3, Chinese, with a petite frame, cute smile, and beautiful eyes. Very gorgeous and sexy. She was dressed exceptionally fashionably, and she looked like she was on her way to a gala, rather than on a coffee date with me. We agreed to meet up in a busy area in Xi'an at 7pm. At 6.55pm, she messaged me: "7.30" and sent me a bunch of voice messages in Chinese which I didn't entirely understand. If there's one thing I absolutely detest, it's people who change the meeting time at the absolute last minute without warning. In any case, I wasn't too worked up, because I was just on my phone reading up on some Girls Chase articles that I had summarised. At 7.34pm I texted her to ask if she was close, but she said that she was still on her way. At 7.45pm she texted me saying that she'd be 15 more minutes. At this point I was quite unhappy and close to auto rejection. Arriving an hour late to a meet is completely unacceptable in my eyes. I read up on Chase's article on what to do if a girl is late, and I decided to not be bitter and play along as if she had been on time. We ended up meeting at 8.10pm, outside Starbucks. She apologised for being late, and said a bunch of stuff in Chinese which I didn't entirely understand. I managed to pump out good vibes, such that I didn't seem at all upset about her being late. I asked her what her name was, and we introduced. I clasped her hand and leaned in for the cheek-cheek kiss, which seemed to enchant her. At this point, it had been a while since I'd eaten, and I was feeling hungry, so we decided to have dinner. We had light small talk along the way. From her eyes, I could tell that Yang was quite attracted to me. At one point she asked me how old I was. "21?" She asked. She already knew this because it's listed on my Tantan profile. She told me she was 26, which I reassured her was a good age. Yang's personality was definitely very interesting. For starters, she seemed to like to take the role of leadership. She decisively led us to the restaurant and picked us a seat. She sat next to me as we decided on what to order. When the food arrived, she told me in Chinese and gestured with her chopsticks, "eat". I found it to be quite and amusing. Even though my Chinese is terrible, I think close to 2 weeks in China has definitely improved my spoken Chinese. We managed to communicate well mostly, but also relied a lot on translator apps on our phones.
Yang was very interested in me. She asked me all these really curious, border line intrusive questions. At one point, she asked me "how many girls have you met with on Tantan?" I kind of laughed at the question as I thought it was silly. I later told her that I'd been on 3 dates. She was really curious about my past 3 dates. My reasoning is that she probably thought that I was a bit of slut, and that she was just another number to her. Therefore, my intention was to make her feel special and I qualified her a lot as a result. I told her that the girls I had went on dates with were nice, but not very interesting. Her follow up question was adorable. "So you think I am interesting then?"
Along came more questions. "Do you have a girlfriend?" she asked me. I didn't know know how to say it in Chinese, so I typed it out for her on Google translate: 'I think it's funny that you ask that question.' She responded with, "I'm just curious!" I typed out, 'I'd say that yes. You are curious.' (A line I stole from Chase). She blushed and laughed upon reading that message. She also asked if I liked Chinese girls, and I responded with "I think you already know the answer to that question." She seemed to really want the confirmation that in fact yes, I was attracted to her. At one point she was incredibly persistent with finding out where I was staying. Most people just ask, "So where abouts are you staying?" But this was another level. I only knew the English name of my hostel, so she asked to look at my key card to read the Chinese name, and spent a minute looking up the address on her phone. Some escalation windows, huh.
She asked me a lot of questions about me; for instance about my travelling and my romance life. At one point I decided that there was too much spotlight on me. But I did enjoy the fact that she was extremely curious about me. I then proceeded to deep dive her a little about her travels and her job. She told me that she was a clothing design teacher at a university. This explained her striking dress sense. I complimented her dress sense and said in Chinese, "thank you for dressing up for me." She coyly laughed and said that she dressed like this everyday. I think my chase frames have added effect in Chinese, because a lot of girls think that my spoken Chinese is very cute and endearing.
I was trying out my piercing eye gaze during my dinner with Yang. Normally I liked to put on cute, sweet eyes, with a slight smirk to the left, and a head tilt; but this time I tried something different. I made my eye contact more piercing and I squinted my eyes less. My smile was much more subtle. The look I was going for was one teeming with desire, and anticipation. She seemed to enjoy my look very much, and I noticed microgestures on her face of delight and desire.
We then split the bill and decided to go for coffee. We walked along for about 15 seconds with my hand on the small of her back. I then grabbed onto her hand and we walked hands interlocked to the coffee shop. I was absolutely busting at this point so I went to the bathroom before I ordered. We went upstairs to a comfortable seating area, sitting next to each other. We continued our conversation, but this time the vibe felt more intimate and sensual as we were now able to touch each other. At one point I went to inspect her bracelets and huge ring on her finger and enquired about them. I also mentioned that I liked bracelets too and I mentioned I carried them around with me in my bag. This seemed to excite her greatly, and she asked me to put on my bracelets to show her. I put them on and this seemed to please her. She then proceeded to take many selfies of us, and she said I looked very handsome without glasses, and with curtained hair. At one instance, she went to the bathroom. When she came back, her dress had fallen off her shoulder slightly. Because of the way we were seated, I had full view of her right boob, as it was slightly unattached to her bra. Her tit was small, perky and her areola was milky and looked absolutely delicious. Thoughts of railing her brains out instantly entered my mind. Instant hard on right there. A few seconds later, she realised that her boob was sticking out, and seemed embarrassed. I let her save face and pretended that I didn't notice. We were both very touchy with each other, and at one instance I was running my fingers through her hair. I found her extremble desirable.
Eventually she asked me if I wanted to watched a movie. I agreed to, and I asked her what genres she liked. I suggested that we should watch a movie at her place, and asked her if she had any good ones. She said that she used her iPad to watch movies, but couldn't watch them at her place because she was living with her parents. I suggested going to her place to get her iPad, and watching the movie at my place instead. I was glad that I'd booked a private ensuite. She instead suggested we watch something on her phone instead of her iPad, so we didn't need to drop by her place. I agreed. She then asked if I had a TV in my room. I did. 'Oh duh' went off in my mind. I could've just simplified the pull and proposed watching TV in my room. We finished our drinks and went to get a taxi.
The transition was alright, but not great. She was constantly voice messaging her brother on WeChat (she messaged him frequently throughout most of the date actually). We didn't really talk to much in the taxi. At one point I zoned out and she asked, "Are you falling asleep?" This set off alarms in my head and I decided to put more effort into smoothing out the transition. I held onto her hand and caressed it, and went on to make pull-talk about how beautiful Xi'an was at night.
The situation that happened when we entered hostel reception was hilarious. Instead of getting down to business, Yang decided to confront the receptionist. At dinner, I was telling her how my shower was cold in my room, and Yang decided to authoritatively rectify the situation. The whole conversation was carried out in Chinese, which I didn't fully understand so I just played dumb.
My room was a mess and smelled terrible which was slightly embarrassing. I decided to clean up a bit and went to the bathroom. Meanwhile Yang went to charge her phone and was voice messaging her brother. I didn't know exactly what she was talking about, but in retrospect she was probably telling her brother where she was and what she was doing. Apparently her mother was worried she wasn't home yet and it was already past midnight. After I was done cleaning, I sat on the bed and watched some pool. Yang in the meanwhile was messaging her brother and walking around doing her own thing. She decided to light up a cigarette, in my non-smoking room, so I told her to do so in the bathroom.
By the time this was all done, it had been around 10 minutes and it was time to make a move. I told Yang to join me in bed, but she was sitting pretty far away from me. I could tell by her body language that she was slightly on the defensive. We fluffed talked a little bit, and at one point I pulled her in by the hand and leaned in for a kiss. She pulled back completely and I didn't even land her cheek. Still, I didn't flinch and just completely changed the subject. I decided that I would make her feel comfortable with me. Something that I have been experimenting with is putting on my 'sweet talk', where I do the majority of the talking and voice my opinion on an arbitrary topic. The purpose of this is to make her feel comfortable. My tone of voice would be soft, gentle and cute, almost like a child. I don't know if this is technically sound, but girls seemed to like it so I gave it a try. I proceeded to talk about how much I loved dogs and that I wanted a golden retriever more than anything in the world. (This is true. Golden retrievers are a blessing to the world!) I went on to explain that my living situation was such that it wouldn't be suitable for me to raise one. My tone of voice was cute and almost childlike, such that I was upset that I couldn't have an dog. My movements were cute and almost coy, as I leaned on the bed, not pursuing her. I noticed that this seemed to make her extremely comfortable with me. She began to touch me and seemed at ease with me. Success. She told me that I should get an dog in the future, and I told her that I would one day, upon settling down with a stable job and a wife. She began to ask me what attributes I liked in a potential wife. I told her that she needed to be cute, beautiful, light-hearted, and not too serious. I could tell that Yang was trying to qualify herself to my standards, which was cute. When I said that my dream girl needed to be beautiful, I gazed into her eyes cutely and gently smirked. She responded with "Oh! Do you think I am beautiful?" Continuing on with this 'cute' thing I had going on, I told her that I thought that she was very cute, especially with her broken English. All the while I landeded sweet cheek kisses, and she was starting to succumb to my persistence. She said that she thought I was very cool, and I used this a reason to reward her with a peck on the lips.
At one point she was really curious to see pictures of previous girls that I'd met on Tantan. I told her that she was silly and that I didn't want to, playfully. But she was so curious and persistent that I eventually succumbed. "Please! I want to see! If you do I'll give you a kiss." I eventually agreed, and she gave me a fast peck on the lips. I wasn't satisfied with this, so I demanded a real kiss, and enjoyed the softness of her tongue for a short while. I showed her pictures of my past dates, including the "dream girl" I matched with and hooked up with 3 nights before. I told her that my last 2 matches were nice, but I didn't vibe too well with them. This was of course a lie, but I needed to make sure that Yang felt special. Normally I don't believe that lying should be used in seduction, but given how persistent she was with a (private) subject, and how telling the truth would probably not have been received well, I lied. She also asked me when I lost my virginity. I told her that I didn't want to tell her, and I asked her. She said she lost hers at the age of 18. She persisted with asking when I lost the V-card and I told her I lost it at 19. She guessed that it would've 16 for me. I took it as a compliment that my sexual vibe was on point.
At this point Yang was quite warmed up and I told her to lay in bed with me and cuddle. She obliged. I began to hug onto her body, caressing her thighs, and breasts and hands, whilst landing kisses on her cheek. Whilst massaging her thighs, I came close to her pussy a couple of times, but she did not flinch. I thought that maybe I could've gotten away with easing my way to her pussy, but I reasoned that slow and steady was the superior option. She then proceeded to watch hip hop music videos on her phone for some reason, so she was focused on the music videos instead of me. I decided to play this escalation slowly, and focussing on getting her accustomed to my touch so I played along. At one point, I was watching some videos with her and occasionally pecking her on the lips, before I decided to give her a massage. I got her on her stomach and pulled up her shirt/dress thing and I massaged her back and kissed it. She was wearing high waisted slacks, so I unzipped them from the side to better access her back. She then asked me to massage her shoulders, so I removed her top and proceeded to. Afterwards, she gave me a back massage, which turned me on. I let out some quiet deep moans. I then turned around to massage her again, this time with the intent of massaging her ass and eventually her pussy. Much to my dismay she said that she had to go because of curfew. I persisted in getting her to stay, because I thought she was so desirable and I wanted her very much.
She said that she had to be home because of her mother. It was already 1.20am, and she said that her mother would not be able to sleep if she wasn't at home. I then put on my cute childish persona again, as if to throw a small cute tantrum. I told her to stay and cuddle me more. In each instance she cuddled me and I kissed her. She said she had to go again, but I told her to stay a little while longer and told her to kiss me. At this point, she was kissing me on her own volition. It was a nice feeling. Her kissing was not very good, because she was too jumpy and fast. I told her to slow it way down, and she followed my lead, where each lip lock last 5 seconds at least. I began to moan and massaged her body, trying to turn her on, but no dice. She really had to go, so she stood up and checked her phone whilst I massaged her thigh with both hands near her pussy with no resistance. I couldn't help but think that if I pushed and bit faster, I could've turned her on and escalated to sex, but to be fair I didn't realise that she had curfew either. She said that she wanted to meet with me again. We kissed a bit more and I led her downstairs to the taxi.
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Overall, I think the date went pretty well. Some finishing thoughts:
Pros:
- The flow of the pull seemed to be structured quite naturally.
- Even though I was completely blown out at the first kiss attempt, I did not flinch and remained calm and continued to persist.
- I made her feel very comfortable during the escalation. I realised she needed to feel comfortable and be able to let her hair down before she could be turned on. I finally realise the full importance of it, after many sabotaged dates because I neglected this key factor. I think my cute persona really put her at ease.
- My fundamentals were good, I felt that my conversational ability was good despite the fact that I had to game in my second language. My slowness and masculinity (not including the cute bit at the end) seemed to be strong. I had good eye contact and body posturing, and my frame seemed steady.
- My physical escalation after the first kiss seemed smooth. She seemed delighted to cuddle me and enjoyed it when I caressed her body.
- I persisted strongly. One of my weak points is persisting strongly, partially due to the fact that I subconsciously believe that persisting puts me at a disadvantage because I am chasing. However, putting on my cute, plauful persona made persisting seem like a game, and actually seemed fun. This was a good learning experience for strong persisting.
- When she asked me all those personal questions about myself, I used chase framing to frame her as the pursuer.
- I very heavily qualified her and rewarded her, making her feel desired and special, and not just another Tantan girl.
Primary things I could've improved upon:
- I think chase frames can be used to strong effect, but I didn't do enough. I think if I playfully included more chase framing, I could've spikes her attraction levels.
- I could have done more to turn her on, with sexual humour and a stronger sexual vibe.
- My initial first kiss was bad. Probably seemed premeditated and our proxmity was a little too far away.
- Transition into the taxi ride home was not ideal.
Thoughts on my playful, cute, childish persona:
This persona is inspired by my non-monogamous girlfriend back at home. When she wants me to do something she acts extremely childishly cute (almost caricature of a little child) and cutely begs me in a childish way. She would be extremely persistent and never seem to stop. The catch is though, it's really hard to say no to her when she acts like this, because she acts so childish and treats it like a game. Just like a little child annoying an adult. I think this is something I put to use in overcoming LMR, albeit too a much lesser extent.
I enjoy this playful persona because I like to be cute around girls. Anyway, the basis of this chilish persona, is speaking in a high pitched, enthusiatic, yet soft voice. I voice my opinion on an arbitrary topic, and do most of the talking while the girl listens. In the mix while I'm doing my sweet talk in this persona, I would caress her body, and kiss on the lips and cheek in between. The vibe is very playful and cute.
I've noticed that there are several pros and cons to this persona:
Pros:
- Seems to function excellently in making girls comfortable during sexual escalation.
- Reduces LMR pretty effectively.
- Persistence becomes cute and fun. Even if she rebuffs your advances, your value does not seem to be damaged because you are taking on a persona of a cute child. Persistence is playful and cute.
- It is extremely playful.
- It is disarming.
- Some girls have absolutely loved it, when escalasting on them in a cute way.
Cons:
- It is not masculine.
- It is very childish and slightly feminine.
- It reduces sexual tension.
Anyway this childish persona is a new thing I'm currently experimenting with. I think it adds another layer to my personality - one that's sweet and cute. This may be useful in conjunction with my non-cute vibe throughout the majority of the date. Anyway. I've got a lot of conjecture, but I need some more experiences to confirm my thoughts. Will definitely test this out more in the future.
Things I learnt:
- How to more effectively build comfort.
- How to persist effectively.
This have been a long one, so thanks for reading if you've stucked around till the end! Let me know what thoughts you guys might have.
Jeffrey
