Date compression...difficulty isolating...help

[ray_zorse]

Some of you might have been following my FR's with [L], well she's kinda conservative. So I have now been on 4 dates with her and I am getting the feeling it is time to pull the trigger. First date was meeting at a coffee shop, dinner, an activity and then finishing pretty early. Second date was a drive-in movie with a bit of kino and a bit of compliance and comfort building, but not really what I would describe as a makeout. Third date she bought me dinner and it was yum, but she had to go home early and study (there was no opportunity to isolate though I didn't really mind because I was following date-compression strategy).

What worries me a bit is the fourth date which I lined up for the following day, following the date-compression advice to schedule a lot of short dates in a short time (say a week) to get the numbers up and make her feel like her logical brain has no excuse to cockblock you based on number of dates. Firstly she held leverage on me by not committing to the time I proposed, and then calling me at that time to tell me to come and meet her (I don't think she was tooling me because she had an exam so I gave her a bit of leeway), anyway after I agreed to come down she then told me her friend was there and I'd be meeting her friend. Hmm! I couldn't really pull out at that stage.

Well look, it went fine, the friend was cool and I spent an enjoyable hour over coffee talking to both of them and having them teach me their language among other things, I think I established some rapport with the friend without overdoing it, so I doubt she will cockblock me. [L] keeps saying she feels good when she is with me and how comfortable she is with me and so on (some of it in the presence of the friend), and the kino is good, she often takes my arm while walking etc. So I think I'm in pretty good shape but I'm nevertheless skirting the edges of being friendzoned, I cannot afford to have things continue this way... got to make a move before attraction expires.

So anyway I need to isolate her on the next date and at least get a bit of a makeout going (kissing on the lips... her top off... etc...), how to do this? The logistics are terrible, so the easiest way is I pick her up in the city after we both finish (5pm ish) and take her somewhere in the car, this is what I did on date #2. If I had a bit more cooperation from her in the matter of getting alone with me, then I would go for that for date #5. But evening dates present a particular problem because (1) she's recently got a waitressing job to supplant her income while studying and (2) her aunt keeps tabs on her... and going to my house raises red flags... ugh ([L] is 27 IIRC).

So what I was thinking was basically I'll suggest we meet up on a Saturday at the market near my home (I won't say it's primarily a food market), and while we drink a coffee II'll tell her we are buying ingredients and taking them back to my home to cook... I think the aunt will be off-guard if it's daytime and she's only going out for shopping. But I think there's a good chance [L] will refuse to go with me. So maybe I need to be adding a bit more plausible deniability into the mix? Any ideas? I'm desperate for some input here.

Thanks studs. cheers, Ray

 

[Glitch]

Seems innocent enough.

I took cooking more seriously when I was inspired by a few girls last year that cooked really well.

If you enjoy cooking and cooking for others it works out very well in my experience. I normally just drop a line that I'm making a new dish and invite them to try it. Then it's up to them to bite or not, if they don't know how I cook they're always intrigued. If they've already tried my cooking they always seem to be very positive. The process you got there is pretty innocent, get coffee again then go for spontaneity about wanting to make a new dish and needing someone to taste it.

Just keep it as simple as that. If you kept up the sexual vibes and interactions then you can pretty much get them whilst in the process of preparing the food. Get them to help with the food get behind them start ramping up the sexual tension and touching.

Unfortunately in my experience the food doesn't actually get made a little while later.

Seems like a good plan, logistics is one of the foundations but oh can it be such a pain in the ass to figure out.

All the best buddy,

Glitch

 

[Franco]

ray,

So what I was thinking was basically I'll suggest we meet up on a Saturday at the market near my home (I won't say it's primarily a food market), and while we drink a coffee II'll tell her we are buying ingredients and taking them back to my home to cook... I think the aunt will be off-guard if it's daytime and she's only going out for shopping. But I think there's a good chance [L] will refuse to go with me. So maybe I need to be adding a bit more plausible deniability into the mix? Any ideas? I'm desperate for some input here.

This one is getting dangerously closer to "boyfriend-zoned" than you'd probably like it too, but you still might have a shot here. I think your idea isn't terrible, but you'll need to be (playfully) persistent when you attempt to get her to come back with you. If she's rather inexperienced and somewhat innocent, she might just say "yes" right off the bat, which will give you a pretty good chance of making your move.

At the same time, if this opportunity doesn't work out, you should probably just consider moving forward before you get stuck sinking more time into her. I don't really think you would want to invest too much time into a woman who's 27 years old and still has an aunt that keeps tabs on her, would you? =)

- Franco