Dealing with Last Minute Resistance.... Boyfriend Objection

[TomInHo]

Okay guys, this one got me confused

With my style of game I rely heavily on disqualifying myself as a boyfriend candidate, and setting non-judgmental and sexual frames before escalating to sex to reduce LMR. This is usually is enough to make my escalations run smoothly but I've noticed that when I get LMR due to them have a boyfriend I just can't seem to crack it.

For example, I was recently isolated with a girl in her apartment and was running my usual game. She was opening up about her sexual values, sharing kinks and was overall having a great time. But at some point in the conversation she brought up that she had a boyfriend that recently moved away so they were considering doing ethical non-monogamy.

She seemed to be really into him and was talking about closing their distance. Yet, as our hangout progressed she started display more signs of horniness with eye gazing, closeness, more overt sex talk and pauses in conversation

So me being in isolation, and her accepting my sexual frames I thought I had the green to escalate... But was faced with mountains of resistance and couldn't even get a kiss...

I pulled backed, relaxed and attempted to build more comfort then she started bringing up the topic of cheating and consent quite a bit.

This made me believe she may have started feeling guilty, but she still wanted me to hang out with her and bought me some food, made me drinks and smoked me out so I would stay.

But when I tried to escalate again after seeing more signs of horniness, I got rejected once again. This got me hella confused so I got up to leave and she told me how she doesn't want to have sex on the first date.... (Not sure why that matters since she has a bf?)

So my question is how do you deal with LMR that may be caused by a boyfriend and how can you set frames preemptively to avoid it?

 

[mist]

Soooo there's this thing

Girls Chase TV

Learn to meet, flirt with, and seduce women. Exclusive videos from expert seduction coaches and pick up legends. Dating & relationship tips you won’t find anywhere else.

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I found this before it had the premium subscription. But anyway chase has two videos I remember being awesome 1 free and the other premium. NOT every video is premium. Many are free actually with no limit. Enough talk though.

Bedroom Objections: Avoiding Objections to Sex

There’s little that chills a man’s blood quite like a woman objecting to intimacy back after a hard night’s pull.So close! … and yet so far.ADVANCED TRAINING: B

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Bedroom Objections: Overcoming Light and STRONG Sex Objections

No matter how smooth your seductions and escalations, sometimes you get a girl who objects.The objections you get come in two “flavors”: light objections… and S

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Otherwise this article could help. I haven't read it, but this more intermediate/advanced an issue.

Tactics Tuesdays: Advanced Romantic Objection Handling with UNDER

What should you do when a woman hits you with a strong objection? Do you give up? Let her go? Or could you… address that objection, in a strong, smart way? Something a lot of guys are weak at is handling strong objections from women they like. We can roughly break romantic objections down into...

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All worth a look.

I remember Chase saying something along the lines of "We've come this far." then stacking compliance and frames.

I'll refrain from stating anything further as it was Machiavellian, a compliance stack, which are both things I'm working on but do not have skillfully handled just yet and the one video that really helped is paid content now. (bedroom objections overcoming light and strong sex objections)

Maybe @Chase will swoop in and give us plebs a breadcrumb.

If not those videos and that article should be more than enough.

And here's a bonus

Walk the Line

Going to venture into morally questionable territory here, so bear with me. Even if you don’t agree with my decision to get intimate anyway with a girl who loved her boyfriend (though she clearly did quite a lot to put herself in the position to get together with me), I still think the topic...

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Ciao.

 

[TomInHo]

@Mist22 Thank you for the great resources.

Looking at the last post "Walk the line" I realize I did not do a good job of logically giving her a reason to sleep with me. That may explain why she was asking about cheating, because she was looking towards me to give her justification for moving things forward

So when I escalated the vibe, she still did not feel allowed to get sexual even though the desire was there.

I swear it feels like no matter how long you've been in the game you can always learn something new

 

[Skills]

The 3 "I have a boyfriend" scenarios

1.- She really has a boyfriend and will not cheat.- This is a girl that has a boyfriend and is really happy and invested with the boyfriend, she is not really going to cheat on him ever or will not cheat (at least in this stage of a relationship, some women can cheat at final stages of a bad...

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^ i personally thing she was very invested and at this time no down, the idea of open probably got sold to her, but at the moment of truth she did not care for it, heavely invested in bf... you should have plaid it as being something taboo and exiting that would bring her and bf closer and enhanse relationship angle to see if she bites.

 

[Just a Man]

you should have plaid it as being something taboo and exiting that would bring her and bf closer and enhanse relationship angle to see if she bites.

Ooh. Very twisted. I love it...

 

[TomInHo]

The 3 "I have a boyfriend" scenarios

1.- She really has a boyfriend and will not cheat.- This is a girl that has a boyfriend and is really happy and invested with the boyfriend, she is not really going to cheat on him ever or will not cheat (at least in this stage of a relationship, some women can cheat at final stages of a bad...

www.skilledseducer.com

^ i personally thing she was very invested and at this time no down, the idea of open probably got sold to her, but at the moment of truth she did not care for it, heavely invested in bf... you should have plaid it as being something taboo and exiting that would bring her and bf closer and enhanse relationship angle to see if she bites.

Hmmm.. That could've have been a spicy angle. Making it seem like I'm helping them get closer together and I'm just a dildo.

Come to think of it @Skills I think you may be right about the open relationship being sold to her. Because when I got to her place she told me how she was seeing other guys as just friends, and attempted to put me in the friend-zone by asking if I liked making friends on the dating apps. Which I replied "I already have more than enough friends, so find it hard to make time for someone I'm not romantic with"

Then as the seduction progressed, she became a bit more open by stating she may want a friends with benefits instead. Making me believe I was starting to make a dent in her stance

Also during the interaction, I attempted to frame cheating as something that was not a big deal and expressed that people had physical needs beyond just love and connection.

I used the First Date Sex Story from my previous LAY REPORT [CLEOPATRA] but that didn't seem to work very well. I got her intrigued but not enough to lower her defenses