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Marty

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I have a vague recollection of reading, some time ago on this forum, when it was less relevant to me than now, about men who "win arguments" with women. I don't recall exactly what was said: I'm pretty sure Anatman was involved, perhaps Ross too, but I seem to remember that the belief was that having it out with a girl over some neutral, arm's-length topic, unconnected to the relationship (such as social policy, or spirituality, or women's rights and responsibilities, or people's views of other cultures, nationalities and traditions), far from spoiling relations between the couple, actually added spice to their interaction.

I think this was not just in the context of settled relationships, but flings and dalliances too.

Can anyone advise? My woman and I have an unusual way of interacting in that we are fairly egalitarian in most walks of life, but when it comes to sex, she gets off big-time on giving up control to her man. She likes to feel powerless in the bedroom and somewhat surprisingly I have discovered that I have quite the talent for fulfilling that desire, taking authority into my own hands and being quite dictatorial about how intensely, how frequently, in what way and at what moment(s) she takes her pleasure. I think we are both a little astonished that it works so well.

What I'm not sure about is whether this is a totally separate domain from the rest of our interaction, or whether there is potential to spice things up further by intentionally creating a "playfully antagonistic" dynamic outside the bedroom, for example as part of flirting or build-up to sex. As a person I definitely do not have a forceful argumentation style and am more likely to seek compromise, back down totally or avoid conflict if I sense a difference of opinion with others. I even have a habit of walking back totally uncontroversial statements which were not even challenged by the other person in the first place, a tendency which amuses my girl.

However, I am enthusiastic about certain contentious modern ideas and beliefs which I am pretty sure that she, as a well-raised Millennial, would find shocking, and though we have never disputed such issues directly, as I tend to be more the listening sort, I've occasionally wondered what would happen if I wound her up a bit. What are your thoughts on this? Better to keep things neutral and avoid conflict, or mischievously chip away at some of her unquestioned assumptions and see what I can do to channel any ensuing outrage into, let's say, positive energy? ;-)
 

Grand Pooba

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Hey Marty!

far from spoiling relations between the couple, actually added spice to their interaction.

Yes, absolutely.

Marty said:
but when it comes to sex, she gets off big-time on giving up control to her man. She likes to feel powerless in the bedroom and somewhat surprisingly I have discovered that I have quite the talent for fulfilling that desire, taking authority into my own hands and being quite dictatorial about how intensely, how frequently, in what way and at what moment(s) she takes her pleasure. I think we are both a little astonished that it works so well.

Women like strong, dominant men, especially in the bedroom. Women want to feel like women, submissive and taken, despite what media tells us and what a lot of millennials have grown up around (feminism, etc). And they love being with strong men who win battles and arguments!

Marty said:
What I'm not sure about is whether this is a totally separate domain from the rest of our interaction, or whether there is potential to spice things up further by intentionally creating a "playfully antagonistic" dynamic outside the bedroom, for example as part of flirting or build-up to sex. As a person I definitely do not have a forceful argumentation style and am more likely to seek compromise, back down totally or avoid conflict if I sense a difference of opinion with others. I even have a habit of walking back totally uncontroversial statements which were not even challenged by the other person in the first place, a tendency which amuses my girl.

Read Hector's latest article on GC, "24 Ways to be a (Lovable) Dick to Girls." I think women really do admire strong, dominant men who speak their mind, especially if you can create a kind of dynamic that looks like, from her perspective, "wow, this guy is such an asshole, but I fucking love him and I'm so wet for him!" However, considering that you haven't been this way with her before, you're introducing a new element into the relationship, which could be a huge turn on for her or could cause unexpected drama if it's somehow connected to the power dynamic in the relationship. I think for your situation and in my opinion, doing something "playfully antagonistic" once in a while (i.e. once or twice a month) is probably enough, since you've also been with her for a while and you already have an established dynamic.

Or, maybe you'll find out early on that she absolutely loves it, and you'll keep down that path. :)
 

Marty

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Grand Pooba,

Thanks for your helpful response! I always enjoyed growing with you when we were both mid-learning process and I'm glad you're still around to bounce ideas about.

Grand Pooba said:
I think for your situation and in my opinion, doing something "playfully antagonistic" once in a while (i.e. once or twice a month) is probably enough, since you've also been with her for a while and you already have an established dynamic.
Not a bad idea. I'll give it a try. I think one of the crucial things I learned early on was that even as you need to make changes to succeed, and unfamiliar behaviors will feel uncomfortable at first, everything you do has to be "calibrated" to your natural manner to some extent, so I am going to try to find a way to do it which "works for me", if you see what I mean.

Thanks again Grand Pooba!

Marty
 
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