Deciding To Pursue a Relationship

[demainor]

Hey amigos,

Its been a while since l last posted, trust me, it's not because l haven't been gaming or playing a part in seduction, l just feel extremely lazy writing lay reports these days.Though l will admit l've been reading the articles and reports some of the fellas have been posting. And just so you fellas know that l haven't been lazing around, I recently surpassed my childhood expectations and had my 21st lay last week. But that isn't why am breaking my posting hiatus. I am in a bit of a moral dilemma.

For simplicity's sake, let me say that l have met two 25 year olds who l truly like, both of whom l would not mind having a relationship with. One of them has been a long term crush and our getting to this position, well lets just say it has had its fair bit of drama.

My question is, when exactly do you know if its the right thing to step in to a relationship and leave the new girl shagging race. And l know that l will probably not marry any of these girls, which means l know at some point in time, this relationships will come to an end. But how do l communicate this to them and not be an asshole . Chase recommends that you always have a purpose when going into a relationship, and l know that there are two things l want to get out of these relationships, to get extremely good in bed, and to learn how to lead and run a relationship, not having had a serious relationship since l discovered girlschase and am eager to learn this side of game which l have never explored.

Further, both girls know l am not only with them and so it becomes even more complicated with both of them wanting a monogamous rlshp, which l am not very eager to go for right now. So they both want it to be only them, especially the social circle one has made it very clear she does not want me to shag any girl who we both know, and this only comes now when some of them are opening up to me. Especially this other girl in our circle who l know it will purely sex, don't know whether to go for it and not tell my girl or ignore and come take it afterwards.
COnclusion
SO, what exactly are my questions.
1. When the constant tail chasing becomes kinda boring, and you want something more significant, but you still want to enjoy the few fun women who do come into your life, what is the best way to go about this while still remaining true to the commitment of not hurting others.
2. If you go into a relationship knowing eventurally it will come to an end, should you give it a timeline? I am so confused as to how to proceed. I do know that l don't want to hurt these two girls, but knowing how my eye still wanders man! Any advice?
3. For some reason, my mind doesnt have a concrete idea of what it is l want to ask, but am sure am not the only guy who has been here. So if you think of something that l havent asked, or something that you think may help, be it a link or just advice, l would appreciate it.

 

[Smith]

1. When the constant tail chasing becomes kinda boring, and you want something more significant, but you still want to enjoy the few fun women who do come into your life, what is the best way to go about this while still remaining true to the commitment of not hurting others.

It sounds like you want an open relationship, where you want to sleep with other women occasionally, but remain committed to one main girl. You have to be honest with both girls and if that's not what they want, then you can either give up your choices and commit to one of them or continue to search for girls who are a good match to what you want right now. You can do your best to tell them that you absolutely love them, but you still want to enjoy meeting other girls once in a while. Not every girl will be down for that. Don't try to manipulate them into committing to you then you secretly go sleep with other women. It doesn't do you any good in the long run when you do decide to commit to one girl, because at the back of your mind, you'll be paranoid if she's doing the same thing to you.

2. If you go into a relationship knowing eventurally it will come to an end, should you give it a timeline? I am so confused as to how to proceed. I do know that l don't want to hurt these two girls, but knowing how my eye still wanders man! Any advice?

Relationship is different from pick up, although the basic principles are the same. I've learned that you can't treat your gf the same way you treat a girl in pick up lol. But at the same time, you can't be too soft and you have to maintain your edge, so you're not going to be perfect at your first relationship. It's good to have a few gfs so you know what to expect when you do meet a girl you really want to tie it down with. Being in a relationship tests you in a very different way than when you're single and doing pick up.

I think it's realistic to think that every relationship will most likely come to an end one day, but I don't think that's a healthy mindset to have when you want to start a relationship. Knowing that it will all end one day should make you appreciate what you have right now even more. I don't think giving it a timeline is a good idea when you have no reason to...e.g. If you know you're going to leave the country in a few months, then it's good to have a timeline for this sort of thing.

I also think it's ok to flirt and approach other girls, as long as you don't cheat. You need to maintain your edge and experience other girls too. There are also many other ways you can grow in a relationship that will help you become more attractive. e.g. go to the gym together, do something to push both of your comfort zone, build an exciting life...etc.

Hope this helps!

 

[demainor]

Thanks for the great advice. I think l have come to the conclusion that it'll be best if l do have a serious yet open relationship with both girls. this will make it easier in case l do decide to go full out monogamous down the road. I am having this dilemma with one of the girls. it such a long ass story that even writing it down is daunting.

 

[Seppuku]

Hey man,

My view is, the ultimate goal of seduction is to be able to get better terms in relationships. Girls are relationships masters. Without some insight into seduction, guys usually enter clueless into relationships which are from the start highly biased to the girl's terms. Seduction is the knowledge that will restore the balance into the couple.

So great idea to try relationships, it''s part of the learning.

1. When the constant tail chasing becomes kinda boring, and you want something more significant, but you still want to enjoy the few fun women who do come into your life, what is the best way to go about this while still remaining true to the commitment of not hurting others.

The way I see it, the easiest way is to have one "serious" relationship - one girl you really care about - and several short term flings on the side. If the girl tries to make you say something about commitment (and she will) you NEVER explicitly agree to it. Telling her that you will be committed, then fucking girls anyway, that's cheating and that's hurting. If you escape the question repeatedly she will get the picture. If you're really cornered, tell her you don't promise exclusivity - that's way better than lying. Frame it like any other sex is just a meaningless fling.

2. If you go into a relationship knowing eventurally it will come to an end, should you give it a timeline? I am so confused as to how to proceed. I do know that l don't want to hurt these two girls, but knowing how my eye still wanders man! Any advice?

Take it easy here. Nothing is forever anyway, it will naturally come to an end soon enough, so don't start off by giving it a timeline. Just enjoy.

3. For some reason, my mind doesnt have a concrete idea of what it is l want to ask, but am sure am not the only guy who has been here. So if you think of something that l havent asked, or something that you think may help, be it a link or just advice, l would appreciate it.

Yeah. All what you learn in GC still apply in relationships. Never be needy, chasey, outcome dependent. Be scarce, make it like she's the one mostly chasing, sometimes give her what she wants, most of the time just take what you want. Having other girls on the side will help. Always make sure you have other options. Remember that as a girl she will always keep options on the side (e.g. orbiters), just do the same.

Now what you describe is trying to have two "serious" relationships at the same time. Little more difficult in my opinion. Better to have only one "main". Out of the two girls, see which one is giving you more headache upfront, and make her secondary. For instance, this "social circle" girl seems to have very strong demands, given that some of the other social circle girls seem into you. Up to you to decide, but you don't have to play by her rules. If the other girl is more cool, go for that one.

Cheers,
Seppuku

 

[demainor]

Seppuku,

Thank you man. That cleared a lot of mental fog for me. And yeah, the social circle girl, lets just say she did something that l had EXPLICITLY told her not to do, then when l told her l cant stand that, she started crying those heart wrenching tears and l decided to forgive her. But though l had fallen deeply for her, her actions helped me to remember that at the end of the day, shes a cool chick, but still just a chick and that despite how deeply l felt about her, l cannot give her a monogamous relationship.
The problem was l had not yet known what to do, but this writing it down and getting you guys perspective on it has helped me decide that,
1. I will make the other girl my more "main" girlfriend, seeing as she is pretty cool and she hasnt raised any red flags for me.
2. The social circle girl, who l actually love more, due to the level of investment l had made and the entire drama thing that occured, l will try and put her as the secondary. Though she does have several major advantages to the other girl, the fact that she didnt respect my wishes despite me being very clear about them, just shows l shouldnt give make her the number one girl in my life.

Again, thanks, to both Smith and Seppuku. Any further advice is still welcome