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Hello esteemed gentlemen. I'd appreciate your feedback and advice on the following:
I have 2 goals I'd like to achieve thanks to GirlsChase. First, I want to develop a good foundation for an interesting and active social life. Then I want to take that foundation and propel myself forward into approaching women, making mistakes and becoming experienced at seduction (eventually developing into a sexy man).
My problem is this:
I am in my mid-twenties, I graduated from university and I work long hours at a good job. I belong to one social circle full of kind, laid-back, very loving friends.
The social circle has long been stagnant (no influx or exit of new people), the majority are couples in long-term relationships and there's a huge disconnect between our values (they want to get into long-term relationships and eventually get married; I want to remain single and date large amounts of women to gain experience). They've been pressuring me to find a girlfriend and "settle down" which annoys me to no end.
Hence the need to develop a new social circle full of individuals that:
1. Understand and support me (guys who have a similar outlook on dating).
2. Have cute single girls that I can practice seduction on and provide social proof.
3. Have an active lifestyle that contributes to goal #1.
The million dollar question is how?
Or more specifically, how do I get a process down to meeting individuals during the weekends that can introduce me to groups of friends that I will get along with (or not)?
How do I selectively go about meeting people with the highest chance that they'll be what I'm looking for?
How do I act and what values should I exhibit to increase the likelihood that they will want to introduce me to their friends?
I've met with both guys and girls during the past few months without any luck in making friends and here are my thoughts:
Guys:
Chase talked about frontloading your value and I think this is where I'm struggling. My external value (knowing cool groups of people, knowing where the parties are, being able to introduce people to cute girls/guys, having connections for a job, etc) is low. But my intrinsic value is high (I was blessed with good features, I dress very well, tall, muscular, etc). Looking at it from the guy's angle, I'm probably a giant liability (no value offered, but the chances of attracting all the girls in his social circle are high).
How do you get around this? I want to develop my external value, but it seems to be a chicken and egg type deal.
How do you minimize the threat of your intrinsic value? If I was experienced in seduction I think it would be different. Guys would look up to you and want to emulate you. However I'm not in that position yet.
Girls:
This I found to be very interesting. The girls I approached in a very platonic way just flat out refused to slot me into a friend category. It was either boyfriend or lover (most likely boyfriend. I'm not there yet for lover :] ). After a few weeks of friendly banter they would start rubbing me with their legs and looking into my eyes or grabbing my hand and putting it on their body. If I didn't respond to this they autorejected and that was the end of it.
Again, how do you get around this? Do I need to be more selective with higher value girls who are more likely to slot me into a friend category? Though if I find them attractive I prefer to try to sleep with them than befriend them.
Process:
I've gone to Meetups without much success. Examples were Hiphop (way too young a crowd) and badminton (really low quality guys and girls). Which Meetups would you suggest visiting for my goals?
If you have any specific advice for Vancouver that would be great. I find people here to be rather standoffish and there seems to be more social stigma to going out by yourself (this might just be my imagination). The weather is going to take a nosedive soon for winter and it's going to be miserable going out in the dark and rain.
I appreciate you guys taking time to read all the information and look forward to your responses!
I have 2 goals I'd like to achieve thanks to GirlsChase. First, I want to develop a good foundation for an interesting and active social life. Then I want to take that foundation and propel myself forward into approaching women, making mistakes and becoming experienced at seduction (eventually developing into a sexy man).
My problem is this:
I am in my mid-twenties, I graduated from university and I work long hours at a good job. I belong to one social circle full of kind, laid-back, very loving friends.
The social circle has long been stagnant (no influx or exit of new people), the majority are couples in long-term relationships and there's a huge disconnect between our values (they want to get into long-term relationships and eventually get married; I want to remain single and date large amounts of women to gain experience). They've been pressuring me to find a girlfriend and "settle down" which annoys me to no end.
Hence the need to develop a new social circle full of individuals that:
1. Understand and support me (guys who have a similar outlook on dating).
2. Have cute single girls that I can practice seduction on and provide social proof.
3. Have an active lifestyle that contributes to goal #1.
The million dollar question is how?
Or more specifically, how do I get a process down to meeting individuals during the weekends that can introduce me to groups of friends that I will get along with (or not)?
How do I selectively go about meeting people with the highest chance that they'll be what I'm looking for?
How do I act and what values should I exhibit to increase the likelihood that they will want to introduce me to their friends?
I've met with both guys and girls during the past few months without any luck in making friends and here are my thoughts:
Guys:
Chase talked about frontloading your value and I think this is where I'm struggling. My external value (knowing cool groups of people, knowing where the parties are, being able to introduce people to cute girls/guys, having connections for a job, etc) is low. But my intrinsic value is high (I was blessed with good features, I dress very well, tall, muscular, etc). Looking at it from the guy's angle, I'm probably a giant liability (no value offered, but the chances of attracting all the girls in his social circle are high).
How do you get around this? I want to develop my external value, but it seems to be a chicken and egg type deal.
How do you minimize the threat of your intrinsic value? If I was experienced in seduction I think it would be different. Guys would look up to you and want to emulate you. However I'm not in that position yet.
Girls:
This I found to be very interesting. The girls I approached in a very platonic way just flat out refused to slot me into a friend category. It was either boyfriend or lover (most likely boyfriend. I'm not there yet for lover :] ). After a few weeks of friendly banter they would start rubbing me with their legs and looking into my eyes or grabbing my hand and putting it on their body. If I didn't respond to this they autorejected and that was the end of it.
Again, how do you get around this? Do I need to be more selective with higher value girls who are more likely to slot me into a friend category? Though if I find them attractive I prefer to try to sleep with them than befriend them.
Process:
I've gone to Meetups without much success. Examples were Hiphop (way too young a crowd) and badminton (really low quality guys and girls). Which Meetups would you suggest visiting for my goals?
If you have any specific advice for Vancouver that would be great. I find people here to be rather standoffish and there seems to be more social stigma to going out by yourself (this might just be my imagination). The weather is going to take a nosedive soon for winter and it's going to be miserable going out in the dark and rain.
I appreciate you guys taking time to read all the information and look forward to your responses!
