FR Dicking around

[fsc]

Felt like posting this up because I had a fun time.

When I wander around popular places in Los Angeles that attract tourists and attractive females, I see guys out and about trying to day game from time to time, and almost all of them look extremely serious and predator-like as they stand around scanning for their next target (and 99% don't even end up approaching). I hope this serves as a reminder to enjoy yourself when you're out. Remember not to have too much fun though...you want to seduce them, not entertain them too much like I've been doing recently.

I was at The Grove today, yawning as I walked by one of those cosmetics wagon thingies where really attractive women try to sell you beauty products.

Her: Hey! You! (She had a sexy French accent)
Me: (Turned my head toward her)
Her: (Motioning me to come over)
Me: (She's hot so why not, so I walk over to her. She looked like Famke Janssen)
Her: You look very sleepy. What did you do last night?
Me: (Pause with one of my eyebrows raised--skeptical look?) Sleep...What did YOU do last night? (Tried to sexy smile...prolly could've had a better response than "sleep")
Her: Oh...I think I was just at home (she was a bit thrown off)
Me: Sounds boring (full smile to counter-act the negativity. Thought about following it up with "You could've spent it with me instead", but decided it was too early. Now that I think about it, why not? She's trying to sell me shit, so I doubt she would've shooed me with something like that)
Her: Hey, you need to wake up!
Me: I know. Help me.
Her: I have something for you.
Me: Coffee?
Her: No. Here, let me see your hands.
Me: (Put my hands out, palms facing upward)
Her: (Puts salt-like shit on my palms)
Me: So if I eat this, it'll wake me up? (Put it near my mouth as if I'd eat it)
Her: HAHA! Oh lord, no, don't eat it.

She tells me to rub my hands together as she sprays water onto my hand. The salt dissolves as it exfoliates my hands.

Her: How does it feel?
Me: (Pause) I'm still sleepy
Her: Hahaha, I mean your hands
Me: They're...slimy (smirk)
Her: (Shaking her head) Come sit over here
Me: (I sit on a high-rise chair/stool thingy. I should've asked why, just to be a bit more of a challenge)
Her: (Brings over a container and opens it)
Me: (I lean over to smell the contents) Mmm...smells good. If I eat this, will this wake me up?
Her: (Sighs, smiling, shaking her head) Here, this will wake you up (grabs the spray and sprays A LOT of water all over my face)
Me: (I just smile)
Her: Here, this is moisturizing cream...
Me: Mustard? (I interject)
Her: Aye aye aye...MOISTURIZING cream. For your hand. After exfoliation (puts her hand toward the spray, motioning that she'll spray me again. Lols).
Me: Sorry, I must be hungry too.
Her: It's my accent. Sorry, people have trouble understanding me. (Puts cream on my hand and tells me to rub my hands together)
Me: That's fine. No need to be sorry. (She looked legitimately down about her accent. I suppose I could've probed about experiences then try to bring her up)
Her: Thank you. Where are you from? China? Korea?
Me: (Made her guess. She guessed correctly) What about you?
Her: France. I've been trying to get rid of my accent.
Me: No, keep it. It sounds pretty. (Sexy voice)
Her: But people can't understand me
Me: So what? It makes you unique
Her: ...You think so?
Me: (Nod my head) It's better than having no accent like every other girl (I should've just left it at the nod)

Then she gives me a thumb-sized piece of paper towel to dry my face off. Lol.

Her: (Holding a mirror in front of my face after properly drying my face for me) Do you see all that? Pores. You have very oily skin
Me: I know...Sometimes I collect the oil off of my face and cook eggs with it.
Her: (Drops her arms to her side, gives me a "Seriously? Wow, I can't believe you" type of look, but clearly intrigued as her mouth is open and smiling. I seriously doubt anyone has ever been as playful with her)
Me: (I just smile)
Her: I actually have eggs over there. Want me to crack some on your face?
Me: Go for it (jutting my face at her)
Her: (Lightly smacks me on the forehead)
Me: Heh heh. Yummy.

She applies shit on my face, and we small talk about our studies and our family. I didn't deep dive...I should have. As she's applying the shit on my face, she is VERY close to me...I'm sitting on the stool thingy with my legs open, and she stands in between my legs and her hips are touching the insides of my legs near my knees.

Her: Do you have girlfriend?
Me: ...No...
Her: Why not?
Me: I don't really like spending money

Out of all the things I could've said, that was my response. Then she started getting into sales mode, and I didn't talk much.

Her: But just for you, $59.99.
Me: I don't really like spending money
Her: (Pause) Okay. Bye bye.
Me: Alright, take care.

I thought she was serious so I just got up and started walking away.

Her: Oh no no no, stay. I was kidding. Come sit down (grabbing my arm).

Tries to sell me the shit again. I guess I could've been warmer, but I was just like "I'm...not gonna buy it". She went silent and her face turned hella cold. Man I felt bad...Then she told me to have a nice day and I left. I turned back around, and I saw her talking to her female coworker, still eyeing me HARD and COLD. Kind of a LULZ, kind of a FU.

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Also 3 Asian girls who are touring asked me to take a picture of them. One of the girls after I take the photo:

Her: Wow...are you professional photographer?
Me: No, are you a professional model?
Her: HAHAHA I wish!

We're small-talking about where they're from, but her sister cockblocks us and gets everyone to leave out of jealousy or skepticism. I don't know, she was staring at my eyes the entire time I was talking to her sister. Couldn't really make out what type of look it was because she was standing at too much of an angle to my left. Oh well.

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I like the fact that my automatic responses are becoming humorous and sexual. I definitely need to lean more toward the sexual side, but this is worlds better than what my automatic response to everything was a year ago: "uhhh" or a dry "haha".

And this is when I was tired and sleepy. Yay.

And I didn't get pressured into spending $59.99 as I might've been by the same girl over a year ago out of social pressure and the inability to say no to girls--especially beautiful girls.

Fuck yeah, life. Suck my Korean shlong.

 

[ray_zorse]

About the predatoriness, these dudes obviously haven't read the elite eye contact article, you have to look as if you're going about your day and totally absorbed in what you're doing (while of course scanning the peripherals carefully for your next target)... I find this difficult, but I still don't think I'd appear on your radar since I'm always on the move while daygaming. Whatever, I don't see a lot of daygame around here, in fact maybe never, but I do see guys with bad fundies in nightgame trying stuff I recognize.

Anyway, I haven't actually tried this yet but in another thread it was suggested if they ask you for compliance you renegotiate with a higher compliance demand. I would say when she started the hard sell you could have gone "hey so bring it over to my place tonight and then we'll see". Chase also says, when gaming people who are selling you stuff, move slowly/delay the deal (flirtiness went cold after I bought a computer lately, but it coulda been me). Also: The not spending money was a great line!!

cheers, Ray

Edit: Forgot to say props on not buying it and staying firm. I probably would have caved, which is why I'm a dick, haha, seems obvious but hard to do in the moment so props.

 

[fsc]

Ray,

To add to that, a lot of these guys have a mixture of lust and fear in their eyes, and usually the combo does not look great. So I can imagine how women feel when they notice their gaze.

I usually move around too. I've been sitting and looking off into the distance more often recently, but I feel like I get girls looking at me the most when I'm looking down at my phone, whether I'm seated, standing still, or on the move.

I don't think I've renegotiated for higher compliance in my past interactions much yet. However, the girl in the FR was the third cosmetics girl to demonstrate the same product on me, and moving slowly and delaying the deal definitely worked with the first two girls. I played it off as being slow and unsure with the first girl while chatting her up and deep diving. She actually offered to come over to my place to give me facials, but that was a year ago when I was still new to this...so her offer threw me off like a motherfucker, I got super blank-minded from excitement overflow, told her that I wasn't gonna buy, and left. LOLOLOL. The second girl was during this summer, so I did the same thing except I was more playful and flirty in the conversation. She gave me her number and we exchanged a couple of texts, but she eventually wrote me off because I was too flirty/playful and she was like 28 and looking for older male providers. With the girl in the FR I was just really tired/sleepy/hungry and didn't really care. =/

"hey so bring it over to my place tonight and then we'll see"

It would depend on the situation, but I'd be cautious with forward statements like that because there's a good chance that the girl is being flirty just to make the sale. Which is why I refrained from saying "you should've spent it with me". That's just my thought though. Could be the case that she actually chose to work outside on the wagon thingy for more exposure. I dunno.

Forgot to say props on not buying it and staying firm. I probably would have caved, which is why I'm a dick, haha, seems obvious but hard to do in the moment so props.

Thank you. I still usually cave in to pay for dates, but not with stuff like the beauty product. That shit was $60. Do you know how many shots of espresso or tacos I can buy with that money? I'm a college student bro.

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Also on that day, I got as many looks from girls as I did from guys, some of whom seemed gay. I've been full-on hit on by gay guys 3 times before, and the chick in my previous LR-/FU thought I was gay, so I guess I might be giving off a gay vibe from time to time. I think the source of the vibe comes from the fact that:
- I try to put on a smile and project warmth because I've been told numerous times growing up that my natural expression looks angry.
- I try to dress well, and I'm pretty aggressive and forward for an Asian dude. My guess is that people think "Asians are normally awkward and shy. Gay people are usually forward and dress well. fsc must be gay".
- Sometimes I just dish out compliments to girls without expressing interest.

Do yall think this is bad? I'm thinking it make me seem more approachable and may help put girls' guards lower when I approach (I usually open direct so there's no confusion about my sexual preference there), but I'm not sure if it helps me overall.

 

[ray_zorse]

Yes. Interesting comments.

About the renegotiation "bring it over to my place tonight" I meant this more as a kind of sarcastic/witty rejoinder to show that you know what she's doing (using sex and flirting to get you invested) and instead of being beta about it you're just gonna fling it right back at her, subtext: "Sex sells... but you'd better be ready to come up with the goods if you try it on me". But if delivered in the right tone it could serve a dual purpose since if she's into you she may capitalize on this "escalation window" you're offering her.

About the gay issue, to a certain extent it just goes with the territory, my second date after discovering GC she told me when I came into her restaurant the first time (and proceeded to deep dive her as she served me a meal and get her number), she had thought I was gay. I was wearing what I'm wearing now - white pants, red and blue shirt, blue blazer, blue shoes and belt... thing is, unless you're gonna rock a bad-boy look (distressed jeans, t shirt and leather jacket... see recent post on fashion in these forums)... then you're gonna look pretty metrosexual, i.e. gay, just for having a bit of style about you.

However, you should defo check your voice fundamentals, because that's been a big issue for me, I'm now rocking a much deeper voice, as deep as I can get it, and boy do I have to work the diaphragm to get this voice out without vocal fry. (As I write I'm in the car waiting for my voice class to start -- have done enough practice this week so I'm being a GC geek).

Cheers, Ray

Edit: I mean the deeper voice is sounding a lot less gay than before, as well as being better generally.