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Hey guys,
I'm having a pretty interesting dilemma.
QUESTION
How to firmly disqualify yourself as a BF on a day 2, after a successful informational date? (I'm worried this girl will try to replace her current BF with me!)
BACK STORY
I've had a problem with the 2nd to last girl I went on a date with. I over-sold myself AND didn't disqualify myself clearly enough as a BF (too much value AND too much attainability) and consequently she wouldn't sleep with me, even on the second date. Now, on this second date she was in my bed in her underwear, me being completely naked with her caressing my penis...
But no sex. At this moment I used Ricarus' "Let's just be friends if we don't have this vibe,I already know who I will introduce you to", and repeat escalation. But no cigar. After I didn't see her again.
A little note about me: I'm 31. good looking, super well dressed (my ex GF is a designer at LV and I have a huge wardrobe) and I've started gaming pretty hardcore 6 months ago when I broke up with her.
I know that with this girl I've over-sold myself because I felt I had to calibrate down because the girl was only 19 and I felt I had to show her that I really liked her anyway. But it was clearly too much. Good lesson.
Now for the current situation I'm facing. I met a girl 2 weeks ago on the street at night (right after the 19yo left my place I went out with blue balls and the most intent I've ever felt lol), talked 3 minutes and took the number. She's a (stunning (for me anyway)) 18yo. At that time her BF was in Vietnam and in hindsight I shouldn't have let her go that night.
I arranged a date with her the next day though. She was supposed to come to my metro stop for us to have a drink outside my house (I live in Paris, France and there's a nice park 300ft away). She showed up after trying to change the location but me sticking to this one. But when I told her to come to my house she said she had to wait by the metro exit for her friends. lol. So I kindly blew off the date stating I didn't want to interrupt.
So after my 2 week holiday I arranged a date with her. Same location and no friends this time. Only at the last minute she told me she couldn't make it as she was in another part of town shopping. Now, I understand the dynamic: the date proposed my me was too much of an investment for her as we only spoke 3 minutes before and she needed some more info on me first (informational date vs. structured date, thanks Chase). So I said fuck it, I will meet her where she is (in the center, where I was meeting my friends anyway).
So we had a really nice date. I actually really like her and I feel it's mutual. I can tell she's a bit fed up with her BF, and she's moving to Australia in about 2 months. I used some innuendo, especially about the lingerie she'd just bought. She said something about lingerie being slutty and I disagreed. (I feel I could have disagreed more vehemently though and launch into a story how I love women who are in touch with their sexuality (good lesson)).
After 1h30 she had to go have dinner with her BF. I tried to kiss her on the mouth but she didn't let me. But she enthusiastically told me "call me!".
All in all a good informational date with some improvement points:
- Grab the opportunity to express how I love sexually liberated women.
- I insinuated I go out and pick up girls regularly BUT I did't firmly disqualify myself as a BF.
- Touch her inappropriately and playfully say sorry (physical flirting)
- Could have 'manhandle kissed' her
Thanks in advance for your help!
I'm having a pretty interesting dilemma.
QUESTION
How to firmly disqualify yourself as a BF on a day 2, after a successful informational date? (I'm worried this girl will try to replace her current BF with me!)
BACK STORY
I've had a problem with the 2nd to last girl I went on a date with. I over-sold myself AND didn't disqualify myself clearly enough as a BF (too much value AND too much attainability) and consequently she wouldn't sleep with me, even on the second date. Now, on this second date she was in my bed in her underwear, me being completely naked with her caressing my penis...
A little note about me: I'm 31. good looking, super well dressed (my ex GF is a designer at LV and I have a huge wardrobe) and I've started gaming pretty hardcore 6 months ago when I broke up with her.
I know that with this girl I've over-sold myself because I felt I had to calibrate down because the girl was only 19 and I felt I had to show her that I really liked her anyway. But it was clearly too much. Good lesson.
Now for the current situation I'm facing. I met a girl 2 weeks ago on the street at night (right after the 19yo left my place I went out with blue balls and the most intent I've ever felt lol), talked 3 minutes and took the number. She's a (stunning (for me anyway)) 18yo. At that time her BF was in Vietnam and in hindsight I shouldn't have let her go that night.
I arranged a date with her the next day though. She was supposed to come to my metro stop for us to have a drink outside my house (I live in Paris, France and there's a nice park 300ft away). She showed up after trying to change the location but me sticking to this one. But when I told her to come to my house she said she had to wait by the metro exit for her friends. lol. So I kindly blew off the date stating I didn't want to interrupt.
So after my 2 week holiday I arranged a date with her. Same location and no friends this time. Only at the last minute she told me she couldn't make it as she was in another part of town shopping. Now, I understand the dynamic: the date proposed my me was too much of an investment for her as we only spoke 3 minutes before and she needed some more info on me first (informational date vs. structured date, thanks Chase). So I said fuck it, I will meet her where she is (in the center, where I was meeting my friends anyway).
So we had a really nice date. I actually really like her and I feel it's mutual. I can tell she's a bit fed up with her BF, and she's moving to Australia in about 2 months. I used some innuendo, especially about the lingerie she'd just bought. She said something about lingerie being slutty and I disagreed. (I feel I could have disagreed more vehemently though and launch into a story how I love women who are in touch with their sexuality (good lesson)).
After 1h30 she had to go have dinner with her BF. I tried to kiss her on the mouth but she didn't let me. But she enthusiastically told me "call me!".
All in all a good informational date with some improvement points:
- Grab the opportunity to express how I love sexually liberated women.
- I insinuated I go out and pick up girls regularly BUT I did't firmly disqualify myself as a BF.
- Touch her inappropriately and playfully say sorry (physical flirting)
- Could have 'manhandle kissed' her
Thanks in advance for your help!