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@MUGENYI,
Yeah, you'll still get it (except when you're on runs).
The big difference between beginner AA and skilled guy AA is that your anxiety takes on a different cast.
Beginner approach anxiety is all about failure, rejection, social disapproval, etc. Like:
Beginners will also concoct all these scenarios in their minds about things that might happen, and then try to plan around their fantasy scenarios.
The advanced guy's anxiety on the other hand is only happening when he isn't warmed up, and it is generally about his technique. For instance:
We could really say beginners are worried about external judgment while more experienced seducers are fixated on their own internal processes and tactical decisions.
Advanced guys also have a slew of tools they've acquired over the years to easily deal with approach anxiety. e.g., they feel it and instantly say to themselves, "Oh, I'm feeling anxious; I'd better go approach," or they convert the adrenaline the anxiety gives them into excitement, etc.
If you're approaching regularly enough as an advanced guy, AA kind of drops into the background or disappears altogether. But it returns whenever you spend long enough away from the game.
(there is also that tiny minority of men who never feel approach anxiety, and never have felt it... these guys just have different wiring though)
Chase
Yeah, you'll still get it (except when you're on runs).
The big difference between beginner AA and skilled guy AA is that your anxiety takes on a different cast.
Beginner approach anxiety is all about failure, rejection, social disapproval, etc. Like:
- "What if people see me approach her and think I'm a weirdo?"
- "What if I try to talk to her but she has a boyfriend and thinks I'm rude for talking to her?"
- "What if I go talk to her but I say the wrong thing and she thinks I'm an idiot and hates me?"
- "What if someone sees me talking to her and knows I'm a pick up artist and people say mean things to me?"
Beginners will also concoct all these scenarios in their minds about things that might happen, and then try to plan around their fantasy scenarios.
The advanced guy's anxiety on the other hand is only happening when he isn't warmed up, and it is generally about his technique. For instance:
- "Man, am I coming in too stiff? She looks all loosened up but I haven't talked to anyone all day."
- "Have I got this approach angle right? I feel like I don't have a good angle to approach her with."
- "Was that an approach invitation from her or did she just signal me off? I guess I ought to go in anyway..."
- "I feel like I'm off my game today. I'm not sure if I can get her to hook as cold as I am right now."
We could really say beginners are worried about external judgment while more experienced seducers are fixated on their own internal processes and tactical decisions.
Advanced guys also have a slew of tools they've acquired over the years to easily deal with approach anxiety. e.g., they feel it and instantly say to themselves, "Oh, I'm feeling anxious; I'd better go approach," or they convert the adrenaline the anxiety gives them into excitement, etc.
If you're approaching regularly enough as an advanced guy, AA kind of drops into the background or disappears altogether. But it returns whenever you spend long enough away from the game.
(there is also that tiny minority of men who never feel approach anxiety, and never have felt it... these guys just have different wiring though)
Chase
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I would consider myself advanced. I would say around 3000 approaches all daygame(or nighttime streetgame) in 2 countries( India & US).
I can relate to most of the thoughts that Chase mentioned above.
But I'm in top 1% fundamentals of all men around.
I was trained by guys in the Goodlookingloser camp.
All this puts me in a situation where i can approach any girl anywhere.
Just like in the gym, a bit of warm up is always helpful than plunging in cold
However I had wasted hundreds of hours walking around in my early days with crippling AA.
If there's one advice i would give to my younger self(and yourself) is to understand the concept of warm up approaches to the bone.
Consider the first 1-3 approaches to be throwaway approaches.
You won't die. You might not get the girl hooked and have a 10 min conversation where the world melts around you.
But you would make faster progress this way.
Every day you will have AA and you'll care about everything as a beginner.
Imagine warming up in the gym, stretching your muscles before lifting those big weights.
That's the mindset that will take you further
Good luck!
I can relate to most of the thoughts that Chase mentioned above.
But I'm in top 1% fundamentals of all men around.
I was trained by guys in the Goodlookingloser camp.
All this puts me in a situation where i can approach any girl anywhere.
Just like in the gym, a bit of warm up is always helpful than plunging in cold
However I had wasted hundreds of hours walking around in my early days with crippling AA.
If there's one advice i would give to my younger self(and yourself) is to understand the concept of warm up approaches to the bone.
Consider the first 1-3 approaches to be throwaway approaches.
You won't die. You might not get the girl hooked and have a 10 min conversation where the world melts around you.
But you would make faster progress this way.
Every day you will have AA and you'll care about everything as a beginner.
Imagine warming up in the gym, stretching your muscles before lifting those big weights.
That's the mindset that will take you further
Good luck!
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@Chase Said it very well. I get AA in periods when i haven't approached in some time and my momentum is trash. Currently I am in such a period, but I know how to beat it back because I have before. Simply taking action.
@DML says it makes him excited. That shows how we are all different, because I don't really feel all that much, I simply get into a habit of being hesitant and passing up opportunities because of a bad inner voice. Gotta train my action muscle.
@DML says it makes him excited. That shows how we are all different, because I don't really feel all that much, I simply get into a habit of being hesitant and passing up opportunities because of a bad inner voice. Gotta train my action muscle.