Do Any Of You Use A "Breaking Rapport" Style?

[rr2021 aka DEVENCI]

I like watching James Tusk content because he is the only guy doing infields since Paul Janka that has looks level close to me.

Even though i rarely daygame i like watching his infields just to see how girls react to someone similar level to me in looks.

I was watching the video below and it reminded me of the "breaking raport" style RSD used to teach.

RSD used to say in nightgame you have to open and run the first 5 min or so of the interaction with "Breaking Rapport" tonality

The video below is not exactly what RSD used to teach but it's similar.

what do you guys this of this style?

are any of you out there getting laid with this style of game?

 

[Chase]

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Anyway, yeah, you can (and I do) use a rapport-breaking tone/style with testy, challenging girls where you can tell they probably like you but they're putting you through the ringer a bit.

Has to be calibrated to the girl. If you do this with a girl who is being very frank with you, or she is acting sweet and submissive, you will blow yourself out by being too unattainable.

This guy does one thing very, very wrong though, in that he does not quit it as soon as she starts getting compliant, and just sticks with it. You need to use a rapport breaking style to get girls compliant, but as soon as they're compliant you need to cut it out and build rapport.

This girl is really not that testy. The guy loses the plot and gets hung up on the topic of the approach, but she helps him out. She repeatedly tries to help him out and gives compliant answers despite his rapport breaks. He gives a pretty awkward answer to whether he's single, that she very clearly doesn't like, then misfires with the joke about the colleague being a Tinder date, but she keeps trying to be polite. Then they get onto the dancing topic and both self-deprecate about their dance skills and it starts looking a bit better again.

...

All right, I just hit play again, he asked her out, and she brought up the gray area bit again (his response to her asking if she's single)... so, haha, yeah, she definitely did not like that response. Used it to brush him off and say she'd see him "around here" (the tube station) again.

But God DAMN that was an ungraceful exit he made after the brush off.

I don't know who this guy is, but he had a girl who was majorly eye-coding him to approach, even admitted she wanted him to approach, and he did okay at the start to handle her testiness, but he did not know when to drop it.

Had he switched from breaking to building rapport when she became compliant, he'd have gotten the phone number and quite possibly a date.

Also, side note: note that the girl remains locked in the entire time, and he never gets locked in. He hangs out in space the entire five minutes. He later tells her he is chasing her, and she is resisting -- yes, that's exactly what it turns into. But it didn't need to be that...

edit: there's a comment on that YouTube video that details the major error here perfectly:

I'm curious about why you would ask her if she was single and then tell her that whether you are single or not is a grey area. By asking her the question the meta-frame is that you think that her being single is important, suggesting that you're looking for a relationship. This then triggers her question to you, and your answer suggests that you're not single, but are looking for a hook-up. It was this ambiguity that then became the big red flag that stopped you from getting her number. Hooking up with a guy who's ambiguous about whether or not he's single is a low-value behaviour, so whilst this approach might have worked with some women, it will usually rule out your chances with classier women.

Chase

 

[rr2021 aka DEVENCI]

Look at that. She admits to collecting men in her back pocket. I've been vindicated.

Women’s Back Pocket Mentality

We’ve discussed why if the aim is to sleep with or even get into relationships with women, you’re normally better off cultivating the image of “great potential lover” rather than the image of “great potential boyfriend” that the majority of men compete on (or, even worse, “great potential...

www.girlschase.com

Anyway, yeah, you can (and I do) use a rapport-breaking tone/style with testy, challenging girls where you can tell they probably like you but they're putting you through the ringer a bit.

Has to be calibrated to the girl. If you do this with a girl who is being very frank with you, or she is acting sweet and submissive, you will blow yourself out by being too unattainable.

This guy does one thing very, very wrong though, in that he does not quit it as soon as she starts getting compliant, and just sticks with it. You need to use a rapport breaking style to get girls compliant, but as soon as they're compliant you need to cut it out and build rapport.

This girl is really not that testy. The guy loses the plot and gets hung up on the topic of the approach, but she helps him out. She repeatedly tries to help him out and gives compliant answers despite his rapport breaks. He gives a pretty awkward answer to whether he's single, that she very clearly doesn't like, then misfires with the joke about the colleague being a Tinder date, but she keeps trying to be polite. Then they get onto the dancing topic and both self-deprecate about their dance skills and it starts looking a bit better again.

...

All right, I just hit play again, he asked her out, and she brought up the gray area bit again (his response to her asking if she's single)... so, haha, yeah, she definitely did not like that response. Used it to brush him off and say she'd see him "around here" (the tube station) again.

But God DAMN that was an ungraceful exit he made after the brush off.

I don't know who this guy is, but he had a girl who was majorly eye-coding him to approach, even admitted she wanted him to approach, and he did okay at the start to handle her testiness, but he did not know when to drop it.

Had he switched from breaking to building rapport when she became compliant, he'd have gotten the phone number and quite possibly a date.

Also, side note: note that the girl remains locked in the entire time, and he never gets locked in. He hangs out in space the entire five minutes. He later tells her he is chasing her, and she is resisting -- yes, that's exactly what it turns into. But it didn't need to be that...

edit: there's a comment on that YouTube video that details the major error here perfectly:



Chase

thank you for taking the time to really break this down.

comments like help a lot.

if we could have a thread where people posts interactions like this and experts like you break it down, people like me would lean/improve a lot.

btw, what do you think of his opener.

My gut from experience says even when a girl gives really strong eye contact or really strong sign of attraction....my gut says he would have been better off just opening normally as if just cold approach.

i think that opener of accusing her of staring kind of put her in a weird position.

it actually reminds me of what we talked about before of girls opening me in the nightlife with things like "why are you not dancing", "you look bored", etc...

i think him saying " you where staring at me..." kind of puts the girl in a similar weird situation that girls who open me put me in where its almost like they start the interaction by implying something low status/low value about me.

am i correct with my thinking here?

 

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Look at that. She admits to collecting men in her back pocket. I've been vindicated.

I enjoyed this comment a lot

 

[rr2021 aka DEVENCI]

@Chase

looks like i made a contribution to your latest article: https://www.girlschase.com/article/triggering-women-ask-you-questions