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Do Naturals Get a Free Ride Through Life?

Paulie Walnuts

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I thought this was interesting, now you guys know I'm not the type of guy to whine about being a "minority" or not "good looking enough", but it sure is vexing when I see things like what I saw on Saturday night (annnnd just makes me want to figure out how to get stronger/better/more masculine/improve where I'm going wrong etc. etc.).

So I went to this party Saturday night, ran around like a madman making my approaches (my usual nightgame deal, and I have tons of fun doing it! I'm a weird combination between Tyler RSD + using the stuff I learned here at GC). I wasn't as crazy as I usually am at parties or while approaching at the bars (currently working on calibration and making things look more effortless, as well as avoiding negative preselection).

Anyway this kid Kash comes up to me (people do this a lot, everyone knows me from my time running events + just being extremely social), turns out he was at the "FU New Years Party" I wrote about a couple months ago, he tells me "He fucked that blonde that I tried to get with" (The one that accused me of rape, because her friends that bashed the door in said that's what I was doing and she didn't want to get slut shamed, though LITERALLY EVERYONE AT THE PARTY JUST LAUGHED AT THEM, because I'm well known as a stand up guy), apparently he just hit her up on instagram and she was totally down (not surprising it wasn't a super hard pull). Not only that he apparently fucked one of her friends who bashed the door in, in the ass (bathroom pull) after she walked in on me and said blonde hooking up.

Now I just assumed he was lying or exaggerating because most guys do that, but... I ended up walking to a party down the street and leading 5 girls out of there over to the one I was at instead, ended up zeroing in on one of them and working my game (which must not have been that good haha), but I noticed as soon as this guy rolled up she immediately flew out of my arms and was suddenly all over him; saying how cute he was and touching him all over (at this point I figured I must have just done something wrong or w/e), they walked off together and I decided to try my hand elsewhere; now I came across this party of girls again outside with Kash in tow and I didn't really want to try for said girl again so I ended up just talking with a couple of the other RSD guys that were there who I'd been running sets with earlier. (Also here I'd like to note that my social proof at this particular party was nuts, being high fived by literally every guy there, knew the DJ's/Security/Guys running the event ect.)

Anyway two of the super hotties that I'd lead from the other party where posing in some sexually suggestive positions so Kash could take a picture, I wanted to see if I could do it too, so I told them to do it again; the hot blonde asked me verbatim "if I was a pervert" and I didn't let her break my frame (or perhaps I did, you be the judge), I was like "Oh what, it's cool if Kash does it but not me? Fuck you then haha", she then lightly smacks me on the shoulder and tells me she was just joking around with me and gives me an oddly long hug (wtf? is this a fucking pity hug? God I have a lot more to learn about women... lmao), then they do the said position again so I can get it on snapchat.

As I was now flirting with other girls around there (since I saw the brunette I'd been working on earlier with her arms around Kash), strangely enough when I yelled "I LOVE YOU!" to some random girl who's number I got, the brunette randomly left Kash and walked back over to me and started hugging up on me asking if "I loved her"? at this point I was super fucking confused so I just decided to work kino and try making out with her if there was an opening (she kept moving her face away though), ended up number closing and I have no idea what happened to them the rest of the night (Brunette did agree to a coffee date with lots of smileys over text the next day) EXCEPT, Kash came up to me later drunk as fuck and told me he banged the super hot blonde (who'd told everyone she was a lesbian, though I knew she was probably lying) in the bathroom.

My point is: Do naturals just get a free ride through life or can we beat them by studying game, working on our fundamentals and having more and more interactions with women? To me this is very philosophical, I was an unpopular loser in high school, and becoming good with women/becoming successful in life/getting ripped/getting high status and power and influence; the driving force behind why I want these things is to show other people how wrong they were about me! I've done pretty well so far, but... could this be a vibe women are sensing? That could unconsciously be affecting my fundamentals and words to show low value? (That I don't think I'm "Good enough").

On a more technical aspect, this kid loves me (most people do, again from my time in events, while I was known as a douchebag who hit on literally every girl but only got a fraction of them, men tend to like me a lot and women..... ahhhh well you get the picture, I've been running the numbers game a lot longer than I've been on GC.... ha....). Should I hangout with this kid and find ways to take whatever techniques he's using and use them for myself? What's the difference right now? I can't tell what makes a guy attractive, is it just that he's a pretty white rich boy and the girls I've seen him with are simply his demographic target?

I know this sounds like I'm whining about being a minority/disable whatever, I'm really not, skin color and my disability is not something I can change; what I can change is the fact that I own this shit and make it work for me!

I'm really not even sure what the point of this post is, I tend to answer my own questions whenever I post here haha.
 

Bboy100

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Imo, no. Naturals don't get a free ride. They're "naturals" because they started this shit and had success with it at a very young age. But they still put in the work to learn it. Everyone here on GC is or was playing catch up. Whereas "naturals" simply learned pickup as they grew up. Imagine you picking up a basketball when you're 22, and playing against a guy who's been at it since he's 14. Ofc he's going to effortlessly beat you. And you might think the same type of thing "did he get a free ride?". "Is it cause he has xyz quality"? No...he's just so far ahead of you that you don't even see what he's doing. Moreover, 14 year old girls are a lot easier than 22 year old girls. So rn, your basically playing in the NFL. You skipped high school and college. Whereas he's been through all of it. So even though his game when he was 14 was probably much shittier than yours is now, so was his competition. So he was actually probably getting laid more than you are now. This matters because this means he's been getting laid (a lot) ever since he can remember. And there's never been a time where he wasn't. So his abundance mentality is much stronger than that of any PUA (except for those who are masters). Its a snowball effect. But like I said...he still put in the work. So I wouldn't say its a free ride persay. Rather, he just learned pickup on "easy mode" whereas we have to learn it on "expert mode"

There might be one exception to this. And it is: EXTREMELY good looking guys. I've heard stories of guys getting catcalled on the streets, and of guys who consistently hook up with girls through their looks alone. And I've seen this in my own life too. There are a couple girls who have hooked up with me, and I can tell no reason why they would other than because I'm physically attractive. Also, I've had several instances of being catcalled on the streets. Not too often though.

But yeah, the guys who get by on looks alone are only like, 5% of the population. And that's given that they stay in shape and keep their fundamentals tight as well.

On a more technical aspect, this kid loves me (most people do, again from my time in events, while I was known as a douchebag who hit on literally every girl but only got a fraction of them, men tend to like me a lot and women..... ahhhh well you get the picture, I've been running the numbers game a lot longer than I've been on GC.... ha....). Should I hangout with this kid and find ways to take whatever techniques he's using and use them for myself? What's the difference right now? I can't tell what makes a guy attractive, is it just that he's a pretty white rich boy and the girls I've seen him with are simply his demographic target?
Yes. You'll learn through osmosis. Even if you don't understand what he's doing, you'll naturally start behaving like him just by being around him. Also...ASK. Figure out what he thinks he's doing right. Even if he can't exactly tell you, he'll probably be able to give you enough information so that you'll be able to fill in the blanks.
 

trashKENNUT

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Naturals don't get free rides. In fact, they get rejected like a HELL lot. They just don't see it as rejection.

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