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Do u believe in life after lmr?

Ree

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I am at a stage of seduction where im pulling a lot but being destroyed by my evil arch nemesis....LMR....
I have recently seen that some ppl eventually get a girl even after an lmr....fellow freinds....what is ur standard operating lrocedure after lmr?
Do u send enjoyed ur company text...after how long do u send it?
How long before another ask out?
The other ask out...do u meet at the seduction location...or do u date then pull again?
 

Ree

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Slay said:
Ok, I don't personally have experience with LMR yet, but why are you just giving up after you get LMR ? LMR is simply a test from women to see if you've got what it takes yo. If you go in for a kiss she gives you LMR? Back off, and keep talking then wait till she's more comfortable and go for the kiss again. She's at your house, she wants to sleep wtih you.You just have to make her comfortable enough.

P.S:I think you might be confused as to what LMR means.

-Slay

Hahah...slay...i dont go for a kiss...get rejected..then go to the corner and feel sorry for myself...being destroyed by lmr is when i have tried everything short of raping her....lol
 
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Gonna guess he meant total silence cause the idea is to make her feel like you couldn't really care less. Saying hey I had a good time through all that bullshit that you put me through might make you seem too easy and ready to go any time, but switching from full on wanting her to not really caring could be helpful, then calmly persist again after the week as if nothing had happened (like hope your week's been well but no mention of the past date at all).
 

Ree

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mb1 said:
Gonna guess he meant total silence cause the idea is to make her feel like you couldn't really care less. Saying hey I had a good time through all that bullshit that you put me through might make you seem too easy and ready to go any time, but switching from full on wanting her to not really caring could be helpful, then calmly persist again after the week as if nothing had happened (like hope your week's been well but no mention of the past date at all).
Yeah...that makes perfect sense
 

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I am at a stage of seduction where im pulling a lot but being destroyed by my evil arch nemesis....LMR....
I feel ya dude. I'm at the same place. So far, experiance says no. I have never seen a girl again after a failed escalation. One thing I'm planning on experimenting with is making plans before she leaves. So say something like "I had fun tonight. When will I see you next?". Try to make concrete plans then and there. Since you already tried to have sex with her, you've killed all your intrigue/mystery. Keeping up the image that "you're a challenge" is almost impossible anyways. So might as well try to get a concrete commitment out of her.

On the other hand, this could come off as needy. I'm not sure how it would go. Feel free to try this out for yourself.

After 3 tries with no luck, kick her out or leave.
Look at her like....wow really, I thought we were both adults here, but ok I guess only one of us is...and then get up and start to leave. If you have the balls to pull it off and really mean it, her tune will change VERY quickly.

Drex, I've heard this advice multiple times before. But it doesn't really make sense to me. Perhaps I'm missing something in terms of execution. Leaving/kicking her out or otherwise withdrawing attention makes it look like this was all about sex and getting her to fuck you. And now that it seems you're not getting that, you're unsatisfied/ "don't want her anymore". This is a major turnoff for most women.

But maybe I'm missing something. Are there any fine details which communicate "I still value your company, and I'm not upset. I'm only withdrawing attention because without sex, there is no where else to go/nothing else to do on this date"?
 

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...Just because something is counterintuitive, doesn't mean it's ineffective.
Ahh, I see. This makes sense to me. There seem to be quite a few things in dating and seduction which are like this. There are a lot of mindsets and techniques that I now use pretty regularly which I wouldn't have been able to grasp...even on a conceptual level when I first started out. Seems like this is the same sort of thing. I'll try this out next time I get the chance. Thx Drexel.
 

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Hey Bboy, maybe think of it as cutting things before persisting turns to chasing out of a lack of abundance?

I've persisted too far before, being too horny. Other times I had just been with someone else the night before or have a date scheduled for the next day and adopted a much different demeanor that she will view as attractive 'cause it's communicating abundance (and as we all know girls like who the other girls like). I straight up kicked a girl out just a week or two ago and she invited herself over for a drink a couple days ago.

If one guy is relentless he's communicating that she's his absolute best shot at shooting his genes into for the next generation (at least in this moment, which is all that matters to what she is feeling). Say a girl's in a celebrity's dressing room though and gets kicked out - she's positive he can and very well may call another girl in immediately after, though the first guy is more likely jacking off.
 

Ree

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DrexelScott said:
This is something that nearly EVERYONE gets wrong. Most guys think that endless persistence in the face of LMR is the way to go. After all, we all have heard that "women like persistence." But consider that when she resists and you respond by trying harder, you are teaching--and literally TRAINING her--to resist more. After all, if resisting gets more attention, she's going to do more of it. So it doesn't make sense to teach her that.

Two ways to deal with it:

1. Two steps forward, one step back. Go back to what you were doing before, then try again. After 3 tries with no luck, kick her out or leave.

2. MASSIVE takeaway. Look at her like....wow really, I thought we were both adults here, but ok I guess only one of us is...and then get up and start to leave. If you have the balls to pull it off and really mean it, her tune will change VERY quickly.

In both cases, withdrawal of attention is the key--not the giving of more.
Hey..this is great advice on how to deal with lmr...this is very useful..and thanks...however....my problem is after lmr...(asuming i have tried everything...everything here including withdrawing attention to punish bad behaviour....anyway.)..after lmr defeats u....how would u go about getting that girl to meet u again?
 

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DrexelScott said:
I almost definitely wouldn't. Women like to act like their pussies are magical gold and need to be "earned" by men in exchange for labor or commitment or unending attention....I have no time for that shit, and only enjoy the company of women who enjoy sex because it feels good and not because it's a "reward" for male labor.

This is what some of you guys are missing. Not all girls are hoping to get laid on the first date - some will be open to the idea and hoping it happens, while others most certainly will not. I've overcome LMR plenty of times and I've also scared a lot of girls off with a bit of persistence/dominance.

It's sort of a catch 22. The girls that were open/hoping to get laid on the first date will love you for being aggressive/persistent, and hate you if you don't make it happen. While the girls that were hoping for a nice traditional date (ending with kiss or whatever) will hate you for being aggressive/persistent and love you for being nice and safe.

The trick is teasing out how comfortable a girl is with fast sex without potentially scaring her off if she's more conservative. If you're just looking to get laid, then your best bet is to just escalate hard with every chick on the first date. You'll get laid with the ones that are open to the idea and scare off the ones that aren't.

If you are hoping to potentially have a long term relationship with a girl, then you have to use a bit more tact in order to not scare her off if she's conservative. I'll use an example. You pull a girl home whom you feel is a good girlfriend prospect, but when she's at your place she's never really comfortable. She's tense, arms are crossed, and nothing you're doing is making her more comfortable. You've got a conservative girl on your hands, so get her out of that uncomfortable situation ASAP. Go take a walk and deep dive. That is what she's expecting/hoping from you. If she thinks you're a player that's just trying to get laid, you'll never see her again.
 

Ree

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@drexel
lol...tru...i hate how lmre makes me have to drop that whole"i am the prize"frame
@problem solving
interseting..will note that down
 
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