Does anyone else get tired?

[Estate]

Not really specific to the main pickup boards so going here...

I feel like I'm a little burned out at the moment physically. I can work long hours sometimes, I go hard at the gym and have a bunch of other stuff going on.
A lot of the time I feel like I just want to go home and pass out in bed early... but I sort of can't. Especially at weekends.

I feel like I'm wasting time and opportunities if I'm sitting (or sleeping) home alone.

Like, I actually like an early Friday night and to get up super early and go running. Or there's often lots of things to go to Wed/Thurs night but I don't want to knowing, I'll only get a few hours sleep before getting up early for work.

Is that weird? I feel like I'm missing out or missing opportunities if I don't just get up and be out all the time.

 

[trashKENNUT]

Estate,

You need rest. Try have a day a fix hours of long sleep (Minumum 5 hours, Recommended 7 hours) and have short naps during a day. Even 15 mins at the corner somewhere is important.

Short naps are like meditation. Like in the ninja game, you heal.

p.s You can set up a day to do a "catch-up sleep day". Rest is very impt.

Zac

 

[Ross]

Yeah, that can happen quite easily if you don't watch it.

A lot of westerners have this mentality that sleep is a waste of time. Why sleep an extra couple of hours when you can work, socialize, or improve skills?

I've never really had much of a problem with it because I absolutely love getting in enough sleep throughout the day (though, that's lead to oversleeping problems in the past). I'm all for keeping up other parts of my life, but I make sure my body/mind are the first priority to be taken care of. Then I'll worry about work, socialization, etc. It can cause me to feel pretty lazy at times, because I know that people all around me are getting so much more done on 5 hours of sleep every night, but when I see those same people in bad/tired moods because of their lack of rest, I know that I've made the right choice for me.

 

[PrettyDecent]

Good thread!

Yeah, I get this a lot. I'm a manager where I work, actively going to the gym, working on my social circle, and on top of this, trying to break boundaries with my PU life. Feels like I'm not out DOING something, then I'm just wasting my time.

And this is without the things I really want to be doing: making music, traveling across the world, building businesses, etc.

Would be great if there was an article on balance in life. Like Ross and Zac said, so important to get enough sleep and rest between activities, just from an efficiency POV. So usually I take Sundays off from doing anything other than listening to music and relaxing. Would like to discover other tips, too, rather than see-sawing between go-at-it hard work and just rest.

~Nick

 

[trashKENNUT]

Everyone,

Talking about oversleeping, yea. Needs to be careful about sleeping in the afternoon. It takes practice.

Zac

 

[Franco]

Estate,

I've been in a similar situation as you since I pretty much started actively approaching women, and I've learned that there's definitely a balance that needs to be maintained in order to keep a healthy lifestyle (both physically and mentally). Generally, I've found that a few sacrifices had to be made, but those sacrifices were the most efficient in achieving what I wanted with the small amount of time we have each week.

The first sacrifice I made was going out on weekday nights. Unless it's a close friend's birthday or some other special event that I wish to attend, I've barred myself from going out and drinking/picking up during weeknights as it almost always leads to being very ineffective at work the next morning. You either go home at 2 am alone and get 4-5 hours of sleep, or you take a girl home with you and get 1-2 hours of sleep. It's a lose-lose situation if you want to be an effective human being in the work force the next day.

The second sacrifice I made was almost the inverse: I sacrificed sleep on the weekends to do everything I wanted to do. That means, come Friday and Saturday night, I throw sleep out the window and squeeze in everything I want to do, including (but not limited to) working out, picking up girls, working on side projects, etc. I often go to sleep at 3, 4, or 5 am on weekend nights so that I can thoroughly enjoy myself and not regret that I didn't go out and have fun on the weekends.

Sunday is my recovery day. I'll undoubtedly be taking a nap or two on Sunday, but I banned myself from doing anything late-night on this day. I go to bed at 11 pm latest. This ensures that I am rested enough to perform at work the next day (and for the rest of the week). I would occasionally do day game on Sundays because I could still take a girl back to my place and fool around for the majority of the day and then have her leave by 8 or 9 pm, allowing me to get 9 or 10 hours of sleep if I didn't take any naps.

So I think it would be best to set up a similar schedule that suits your wants and needs. Know when it is okay to make sacrifices to your sleep, and know when you need to make sacrifices to your "fun" activities to stay rested. That would be my advice. =)

- Franco

 

[PinotNoir]

I usually try to get most of my stuff done (errands, workout, etc.) during lunch time, and I just grab a quick bite to eat also. You can even go out to flirt with women during lunch time (I actually prefer this for day game instead of right after work, more women). If you can, move gym workout time to the morning, and you'll have more free time, but I've found this pretty difficult to do.

The more you do the more sleep you need, and naps (30-60min) during the day won't affect your nighttime sleep as some believe (according to medical articles I've read), but it's difficult to really get naps in unless you do it during lunch time.

Sleeping is the most habitual thing we do. It's hard to adjust, but it's necessary. In the past when I wasn't doing as much, I could sleep 6 hours a night and feel wonderful. But, once you start doing more things (physically, mentally, emotionally), you need to adjust to get more sleep, maybe add 30min extra a week for each new thing you add.

I'm pretty bad myself, and I usually just make up all of my sleep on the weekend haha.

 

[Tim Iron]

Because of how I work... I always get at least 7 hours, so that I don't have any problems. I am VERY VERY religious about having at least 7 hours sleep every day... I used to have BAD migraines because I was drinking too much coffee and power horse energy drinks to stay away and do a lot of work during the day and night... now, I don't want those horrible migraines anymore so I don't drink coffee, energy drinks (power horse, red bull) or even tea anymore!

I usually try to get most of my stuff done (errands, workout, etc.) during lunch time, and I just grab a quick bite to eat also. You can even go out to flirt with women during lunch time (I actually prefer this for day game instead of right after work, more women). If you can, move gym workout time to the morning, and you'll have more free time, but I've found this pretty difficult to do.

The more you do the more sleep you need, and naps (30-60min) during the day won't affect your nighttime sleep as some believe (according to medical articles I've read), but it's difficult to really get naps in unless you do it during lunch time.

Sleeping is the most habitual thing we do. It's hard to adjust, but it's necessary. In the past when I wasn't doing as much, I could sleep 6 hours a night and feel wonderful. But, once you start doing more things (physically, mentally, emotionally), you need to adjust to get more sleep, maybe add 30min extra a week for each new thing you add.

I'm pretty bad myself, and I usually just make up all of my sleep on the weekend haha.

 

[Franz]

I haven't seen eating habits mentioned here so far. Eating directly relates to how much energy you have during the day. Trust me I know from personal experience.

I used to work a job that required for me to wake up at 5:30 am in order to make it to work on time. It was a typical 8 hour work day. By the time I hit 2.5 years of being at that job I was drinking coffee in the mornings (I was never a coffee drinking prior to working), have soda for lunch for that added caffeine boast. I even went a few months when I would take 5 hour energy shots a few days out of the week in the mornings. Those things definitely worked! In addition everyday when I got home from work I was totally beat, no energy. All I felt like doing was eating dinner, taking a shower and relaxing.

Eventually I asked myself "I'm 26 years old, where is my energy at?" I reflected on my diet that consisted of fast food, processed foods, frozen food, sugary junk foods and decided to cut all that crap out and see what happens.

Long story short is that within a week I no longer needed coffee, soda, energy shots or anything like that. I felt great entering work. I felt great too by the time I got home. I actually starting doing stuff after work.

It's been 1 year and 4 months since I completely cut out fast food, processed food and sugary junk food from my diet. I have not cheated one bit. I eat as many fruits and vegetables as I can fit at every meal. The difference in how I feel is amazing so this is definitely a permanent life style change.

There isn't another way once you give it a shot.

 

[upyourass]

It might be Diabetes. Check it our before it's too late. Yesterday, I visited one of my relatives whole leg was cut off because he had diabetes and didn't know it.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Hahahaha upyourass??

If your cool and not a troll or something I really dig your username that's hilarious. Reminds me of the Tourette's episode of southpark...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-efxJ_XVht8

 

[Tim Iron]

upyourass (weird name by the way), please how old is your relative - my mom has high blood sugar issues since she was 49 years.

It might be Diabetes. Check it our before it's too late. Yesterday, I visited one of my relatives whole leg was cut off because he had diabetes and didn't know it.

 

[Estate]

Guys,
Thanks for the thoughts so far. Thankfully my health is good. No worries there.

It's just generally the fact that I'm no longer 21 when I could probably party hard 6 nights a week and only rest on the 7th because I was out of money, haha.

Really though, I turned 30 recently. I've taken on a lot more responsibility at work which means more hours. I've really been on a fitness kick ad on top of that trying to go out and game and still party at times has been wiping me out.

I've been thinking about it a lot lately. I do need to prioritize and schedule things better... even schedule rest time, that way I shouldn't feel "bad" about it. It's Saturday night right now and I've decided to stay in. I was at it last night and feel a rest night if good for me right now.

Has anyone else done something like this though? I'm trying to get out of the habit of too many late nights and take care of other things I need to and just live life a little better than spending too much time partying (and recovering from said partying). But it doesn't feel condusive to game or meeting women. Of course there's more wyas than bars/clubs, I know that. But for example... I'm going to go running early in the morning. When I do this at weekends I usually see a lot of smokeshows running along the river too. I always wonder... these are EXTREMELY hot girls, even if they are sweating running around. And if they are out that early, they certainly weren't at the club the night before... but where would you meet these women? (Besides actually stopping them while working out, haha)?

 

[mindful]

I'm going through this right now. Being in the working world and trying to do pickup and dates will eat a lot of time and energy. I have experienced it first hand. Staying up way late on the weekends (3-4 AM) when usually I am in bed between 11-12. Doing dates during the week, which by the time it's all said in done your whole day consisted of work/date and not much time for anything else. I am more introverted by nature so not having my chill time really throws me out of wack. I have pushed myself to be more social, especially with girls, and I have seen a change in me internally, but it's really not who I want to be all the time.