Does Ratio Game Work?

[truthasker]

So you know many like Dan Biltzerian talk about the Setup and how being in a party where there's less guys to girls ratio is really a cheat code? And that's how he gets those women.

Well, I came across this video:

The ratio was said to be 7 girls for every 1 guy. Yet the women didn't seem to want to talk to most. So is the whole ratio game BS in a yatcht party sense? I don't know if Dan or other guys like him pay women or not, but it seems like he might be judging from the video.

Like yes, obviously ratio in most areas will make it easier like if you're in a country where there's less male to female ratio but, based on the video it just seems it's not a "massive cheatcode" to go to these parties that have favorable ratios. (These guys paid 3.5k which is a scam but I meant even a party which costs 100$ or around there.)

 

[Pups]

“Men and women aren’t equal”

In my neighborhood the women out-earn men, the have more friends than men, more money, more clothes, better jobs, bigger salaries, more education, more sexual partners, more of EVERYTHING.

Plain and simple these have it MADE.

 

[Chase]

Well, I came across this video:

Hot damn.

Feels like a little P. T. Barnum is appropriate here:

There's a sucker born every minute.

I mean, I don't know how that event was marketed... maybe it was some sort of "Fresh and Fit High Value Man Gathering" or something where networking was a big part of the pitch? "Pay $3500 to meet other F&F High Value Men"?

Because if it was "Pay $3500 to get into a party with a 7-to-1 female-to-male ratio" I would wonder how you would not look at that and say, "It's probably gotta be pros there, right? Isn't that gonna be all pros? Chicks just there to dig for the gold and not interested in anyone not willing to show he can drop a dime on her?"

The ratio was said to be 7 girls for every 1 guy. Yet the women didn't seem to want to talk to most. So is the whole ratio game BS in a yatcht party sense? I don't know if Dan or other guys like him pay women or not, but it seems like he might be judging from the video.

Blizerian is a high net worth Internet celebrity / trust fund baby who seems like he probably also has game.

He is mostly or entirely getting strippers, porno actresses, escorts, and various forms of gold diggers and social climbers at his yacht parties. Here's a Quora on it:

Who are the women hanging out with Dan Bilzerian in his Instagram photos?

Answer (1 of 6): Prostitutes and self promoters of different kinds. He is the son of one of the huge Wall Street fraudsters who was convicted and did time but they could never recover the bulk of the money. Then, suddenly, Dan wins 47 million playing poker in one year. Which has never happened in...

www.quora.com

As he is the guy throwing the party, and the women all know he has money and status, they will all be working their various girl game on him to try to squeeze whatever they can out of him. However keep in mind:

1. There are a lot more of them than there are of him
2. They are ALL there for him
3. That means the competitive pressure on them is much higher
4. Blizerian also knows this, and has game, and is probably using that to his advantage

Translation: if one of these chicks tries stringing him along without putting out, he is going to say, "Nice talking to you," and switch over to another one. And if she won't put out, the next one will.

Yacht parties are excellent for getting laid if you are one of the guys there who actually has money and status on the boat and all the various gold digger and status climber chicks who are there know it (or, like, if all the other guys there do and they just assume you do too, lol). I've had wealthy clients who played around with yacht game and fucking multiple girls on the yacht is as easy as taking one by the hand and leading her below decks.

In the case of the Fresh-and-Fit party, these were a bunch of pedestrian guys who probably spent their bottom dollar getting onto that yacht. All those women know that or suspect it. Unless a guy can show her he has wealth, or status, or watertight game, he isn't banging one of the pros there.

(I should note that boat game in general is really good, even if you are not rich... just having a regular small boat you can pull chicks to can get you a lot of tail... it is a hack just like having a motorcycle... a lot of guys think you need to have an expensive yacht to do this, and while you do if you are trying to bang gold diggers and social climbers, if you are fine pulling regular hot girls you can do that with a $15K tub)

Like yes, obviously ratio in most areas will make it easier like if you're in a country where there's less male to female ratio but, based on the video it just seems it's not a "massive cheatcode" to go to these parties that have favorable ratios. (These guys paid 3.5k which is a scam but I meant even a party which costs 100$ or around there.)

Depends on why the women are there and what they know about the men.

In this case, the women are diggers and climbers and the men are pussy beggars.

Not a good mixture for much sex happening.

Chase

 

[Will_V]

Oh man, I wasn't going to watch that video but that's gotta be the weirdest party I've ever seen. The only ratio happening here is the amount of dudes huddling together in one spot.

And those 'high value men' acting like it's the first party they've ever been to, dressed like shit, holding drinks like riot shields, scattering women left and right.

Unbelievable.

Blizerian is a high net worth Internet celebrity / trust fund baby who seems like he probably also has game.

One thing you can definitely tell about Bilzerian is that girls are very comfortable around him, he's not needy at all and super chill whether they're giving him attention or not. The opposite of what's shown in the video.

 

[Francis]

Despite the example you gave, I do think ratios of the environment are very worth considering. If you are in a city with more girls than guys, the competition will be in your favor, more girls will be single, etc.

I only took a couple economics classes, but if girls are supply-side, and men are demand-side, maybe price is "difficulty", and you end up with consumer surplus? Meaning though your willingness-to-game and skill required do not need to be as high. Age would also be a factor. If you go to an isolated college town that people move away from after graduation, the guys who are there would be younger (less competitive).

Economic surplus - Wikipedia

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Or maybe price is hotness. I don't know. Doesn't matter.

More girls = better

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

So you know many like Dan Biltzerian talk about the Setup and how being in a party where there's less guys to girls ratio is really a cheat code? And that's how he gets those women.

The draw behind the ratio parties is that, you the guy/the customer, won't have to do any work, and the chicks will just look in your direction. No approach anxiety, Warm Approaches, She approaches you - basically newbie dreams and a way to actually avoid how to learn how to pull chicks on the solo.

Does it work?

In most cases, no.
In some very specialized cases, yes.

Ex. 1) Here in the States, there are A LOT of club parties during NBA All Star Game Weekend.
A lot of those clubs have very favorable (purposefully so) ratios where the chicks very much out number the dudes.

But those chicks are really there for the celebs.

Ex. 2) Here in the States, There are a lot of "meet up" type groups. Organized by the internet, it's meeting over various topics and activities. Some groups it's a total sausage fest, others are a total taco fest. In any event, if you decide to go to the "aspiring romance novelist" or "cake decorating" group - there's a good chance you'll be the only guy there - but unless you can pull chicks in the real world - you're just a part of the scenery, just a piece of furniture.

When does it seem to work?

When you're already attractive w./out saying a word (looks or fame, or both)
When you've got really good social skills that make you attractive

 

[Teparus]

Ratio matters, but it matters a lot less in a situation where you pay big bucks to get in somewhere that is specifically being marketed as a woman-heavy venue at a price point that is made to bilk average men out of their cash.

Ratio really matters in two scenarios:
1) The general social backdrop that women experience. If they get the impression throughout their daily lives that men are scarce, they will fight harder to get one.
2) In exclusive settings. If you are in a setting that is genuinely exclusive, a ratio works massively in your favor.

I would say that a generally publicly accessible party that costs $3000 is quite possibly the worst case scenario for ratio game, or any game for that matter. Paying $3k doesn't signal that you have really significant wealth -- it signals that you have a credit card. And looking at those men, frankly, that was...sad. They did not look like dudes who had great lives who were just out to casually party. They looked like dudes who barely scraped together the cover price.
And that is very, very bad for seduction. If you can barely afford $3k to get on a boat, but you drop it anyway, you absolutely reek of desperation.

Now, in contrast, if this were a $10k fundraiser dinner with an organically female-heavy sex ratio, that sends a totally different message. The women there are going to see the men there and (assuming they more or less look the part) make a lot of positive assumptions about him. First, that he actually has money. Second, that he's generous. Third, that he's going to be well-socialized. Nothing about that scenario makes him come across as desperately needing a woman.

In the opposite direction, if this was a house party being thrown by a really cool dude who only invites his friends, with a token $10 cover for booze or something, then that also gives exclusive vibes in the form of social proof -- if he wasn't a cool dude, why would he have been invited, after all?

 

[bgwh]

I think every tactic can get overplayed as a magic pill. Obviously a ratio like that can massively boost odds. And then obviously it wouldn't do anything if you have zero game. But that's true of most overhyped methods, they never do anything in isolation, you still need the other stuff.

 

[Skills]

So you know many like Dan Biltzerian talk about the Setup and how being in a party where there's less guys to girls ratio is really a cheat code? And that's how he gets those women.

Well, I came across this video:

The ratio was said to be 7 girls for every 1 guy. Yet the women didn't seem to want to talk to most. So is the whole ratio game BS in a yatcht party sense? I don't know if Dan or other guys like him pay women or not, but it seems like he might be judging from the video.

Like yes, obviously ratio in most areas will make it easier like if you're in a country where there's less male to female ratio but, based on the video it just seems it's not a "massive cheatcode" to go to these parties that have favorable ratios. (These guys paid 3.5k which is a scam but I meant even a party which costs 100$ or around there.)

It does work, even if the ratios are the opposite 5 dudes per girl, is good ratios now a days...(there are nights of 20 dudes per girl)

Key is women need to want to be in a place, or happen to be in a place not SCAM to be in a place (go to a party over false pretense).... This is common sense brah!