Don't Stop Street Approaches

[Just_Dave]

Hey all,

Long time no talk, is it me or has been been a rising number of complaints from the female population about street harassment. I remember hearing about it first hand when one of my female coworkers mentioned she was doing a seminar for it, I was an Resident Advisor at the time (Back in Spring 2012). Anyway the point she was trying to get across it started off as a movement to end catcalling. As the years progressed I kept hearing more and more murmurs from blogs and websites about the end "Street Harassment". This would ultimately come full force when the Elliot Rodger shootings happened. From there stemmed the movement of "YesAllWomen" hastag on Twitter and Facebook. This also provoked the heavy backlash to the Men's Right Movement. The reason being because feminists claimed Elliot was a "MRA". Afterwards, I saw a steady rise in the "Street Harassment" movement from two years hence.

However, with the fire fueling from the shootings, social media, the movement took a very "subjective" aim at harassment. They began considering complimenting a woman, approaching a woman, and even looking at a woman as harassment. This even coined the term "Stare Rape". Now the first argument ordinarily average guys made was "Women stare at guys like that all the time." The second was "Even wouldn't be offended if the guy was hot." I find the last argument the most interesting. I know a good number of guys who approach women and don't get complaints. I approach and talk to women an good number of times, and I have received no complaints. This is why I put so much emphasis on fundamentals. However, a good number of my friends have zero fundamentals and don't get complaints. Interestingly enough, I don't see a lot of women complaining that much at all, about anyone. I see bad and I mean bad approaches and women will just laugh them off. They may even find the guys failed approach cute. I believe the media has once again taken things and blown them way out of proportion. In conclusion I encourage guys to still approach women on the street, but be smart. Some women won't be receptive as much as others, but that's expected. Remember for every women that says no, there is another that will say yes.

*If you guys have your own experiences please share

Over and out,

Just Dave

 

[Smith]

This reminded me of a girl I complimented on the street last week lol

At first she laughed and said "No i'm not cute!"

I burst out laughing, told her to stay and say I just wanna say hi.

Then she started calling me a criminal if I follow her lol It was so bizarre. One of the weirdest encounter ever.

Anyway, I was laughing all the way to the gym after I met her. (yes I was wearing gym clothes with messy hair)

Other than that, don't make apologies for having balls and stating your intention.

I think Chase even has an article on this - "If you're skipping cold approach because you don't want to inconvenience women, what you're actually doing is avoiding inconveniencing the women who don't like you, while ACTIVELY inconveniencing the women who DO like you, and inconveniencing yourself as well - that is insane
"

- Smith

 

[fsc]

They began considering complimenting a woman, approaching a woman, and even looking at a woman as harassment.

LULZ. Check out this video. The second half of the video discusses ACTUAL sexual harassment, but the hidden camera footage? Come on...seriously? That's just straight up rudeness/horrible game. If that's considered sexual harassment, all of us need to be locked up for life and have our balls chopped off.

Two personal experiences I can recall right now:
1:
***Two girls are heading into a store while I am walking on the sidewalk. I'm parallel to the row of stores and perpendicular to the two girls. I match my pace so I end up crossing paths with the two.
Me: Woah...you are really cute (calmly, smiling)
***The other girl grabs her arm, and drags her away saying "This is my sister!"

2:
***Two girls are crossing the road, one lags behind. My buddy and I approach from behind
My buddy: Hey, how's your day going? (smiling, playful)
Her: (Turns her head around) Good
***The other girl ahead of her stops, turns around, grabs the girl's arm, then speeds off.

Those two are literally the worst I can think of that I've personally experienced upon approaching. Many of my girls end up in rejections in one form or another, but almost all girls are flattered and warm to my approach.

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Two personal experiences that fuel these feminists:
1:
My friends and I went to a pizza place that has outdoor seating by the sidewalk. A girl who was walking by caught my eye so I jogged after her. I had her smiling ear-to-ear, but I get a polite "I have a boyfriend" rejection. I walk back and sit with my friends on one of the tables outside. There are two guys in their mid to late 20s sitting at the table next to us. They start talking to us. They saw me cold approach, so our conversation is primarily about women. Initially, I think these guys might be good with women because they seem really chill and well-dressed. We're having a decent, superficial convo when a girl walks by. One of the guys calls out "Damn, girl! Sexy!" He just lost all credibility and respect from me at that moment. My friends and the two continue chatting as they eat, and throughout the conversation he keeps being rude to the women walking by: "Hey girl, give me your number!", "I like your capris!" (he didn't even get a "thank you" for this because of his tone), "Damn girl, nice body!", etc. The worst part was that he was laughing and having fun doing this. He thought he was being good and cool. He was clearly trying to qualify himself after seeing what I did, but this definitely wasn't the right way. I just had to leave. I walked off then I texted my friends to hurry up eating and leave.

2:
I opened a group of about 7 girls and 5 guys on the street. I saw the group standing around looking indecisive. The guys were way too timid, as none of them were talking to the girls. One guy tried twice to get the girls moving, but no one budged either times. When I opened them, ALL of the girls' eyes were lit up. It was easy to see the girls actually wanted me there. The guys obviously didn't want me LULZ. I focused talking to 1 girl, who looked excited and happy, and she reciprocated good convo. Two of my buddies I was out with at the time joined in and chatted up the rest of the group. Then some dude taps my shoulder and asks if I was just inside the comedy club. I answer yes, then we introduce ourselves. I'm not usually mean, but this dude looks like a meth head, and he gave off a really weird, creepy vibe in the 15 seconds that I just spent with him. So I focused my attention to another girl in the group. Behind me, I hear him introducing himself to a girl in the group. What the fuck? I thought he was a part of the group. After a minute or so, I return my focus to that 1 girl I was focusing on earlier. We banter a little more then exchange contact information. I unfocus from the girl, look around, and realize everyone has disappeared except for my two buddies and the random weirdo. Then that creeper tries to talk to my girl as she's entering her contact info in my phone. She gives him an awkward smile and ignores him. She then leaves (in a good way) to catch up to her friends. I meet up with her two nights later, but that's another story.

The creeper wants my number. I give it to him. I want to get the fuck away from this dude and his totally bad vibe, but he keeps wanting to know more about me. It's uncomfortable and annoying as shit. I see two hot chicks on the other side of the street, so I just ran after them without even saying bye. My buddy and I get a "we're lesbians" rejection. Then my buddies tell me that everything was fine with the group until the creepy motherfucker showed up out of nowhere and began being a creepy motherfucker to the girls. He gave the group (especially the guys) a legit reason to get the fuck away. My buddies and I for sure could have pulled off something better than a number close if it wasn't for that weirdo.

The three of us run into this dude again on the street about an hour later.
Motherfucker: (After bantering about his day and what he was up to) so what are you guys doing tonight?
Buddy 1: I don't know man, we might actually take off to Hollywood right now
Motherfucker: That sounds so cool. Can I join you guys?
...FUCK...
Buddy 1: Um...
Me: Oh shit, look at those three girls right there
Buddy 2: Hey girls. Was there a Dodgers game today? (All three had Dodgers hats on)
The three see us, and it seems like one of them is about to reply when...
Motherfucker: Hey! Do you girls want to take a survey? (And walks up to them)
My buddy 1, who is a lazy fuck, starts RUNNING away. Buddy 2 and I run to catch up to him. Creep actually calls me. We get in our car and speed off to Hollywood.

So yeah. As long as we know what we're doing (by reading up on GC articles), have solid fundamentals, and other shit, we should be fine. It's just rude idiots, guys with terrible game, creepers, and actual sexual attackers that fuel the street harassment bullshit Dave brought up.