FU Double Header

[Baldr]

So I've got a double header for tonight and this friday in which I Effed up and am not really sure what to do. Here's the brief synopsis...

First night: I had just broken up with my girlfriend a few days ago and my homie from college was coming into town so we decided we would hang out and chill at a hookah bar. Not 10 minutes in I see this rather cute girl staring over at our table and looking away when I catch her. To me this is a bit of preselection perhaps (I'm extrememly inexperienced) so after some banter and a bet I decide to go talk to her. No I ask her what her name is and she tells me but when I ask her about relationships she tells me she has a boyfriend. Now initially I'd left it at that, but I noticed she kept looking at our table and when I got up to pay, when I tuned around she was right there behind me in line. How would I handle a situation in which I have to sort of double approach.

Tonight: There was a very cure red headed bartender who seemed at least somewhat into me. But she acted flirtations a lot throughout the night so is there anyway to guage whether she is fully invested? Or do you have to just ask her out?

Thank you

 

[WayOfHand]

Hey Baldr. The thing with the girl looking at your way could have been just a coincidence but more than often it is an approach invitation. That is the girls way of showing she is interested.

You should judge women from their actions not their words. Of course reserved women often flirt like hell as they still like to get validation, but mentioning the bf could have also been just a way to screen out lower value men. All you have to do is get to know her a bit and then try to move her or other ways make her commit through the interaction. If she goes through the hoops its game on, no matter what she says. Actions not words.

Same goes with hired guns. They get tips by being flirty. If you want to gauge their real interest get commitment.

 

[Baldr]

Thanks a bunch for the help. I completely forgot about testing for compliance and using results instead of reactions. I guess I need to brush up on my reading hehe. Least I'm finally getting out there and getting some practice.

 

[Seppuku]

Hey man,

If you ask if she has a boyfriend, it does not really matter what her answer is. She could say no, but actually have a boyfriend. She could say yes, but have no boyfriend. She could say yes, but have a boyfriend she's not too interested in (or no longer). And what is your goal anyway? You want just to fuck her? then who cares about her boyfriend. You want to be her boyfriend instead? Then take her to bed fast, and you'll stand a good chance against her current boyfriend (if any). In any case, never loose your cool. Uber cool, BF or no BF. Just keep your frame.

What matters is if she's *available*. This, you will be able to tell by her behavior. In this case she kept sticking around you, which is a very good sign. That says much more than what she verbally says. Start paying attention to these details. Girls usually give subtle hints. Sticking around is one.

Cheers,
Seppuku

 

[Fuck This]

I would take an approach of "don't ask don't tell" when it comes to women who are showing you signs of attraction.

Plain and simple don't ask questions that have a probability of having an answer you don't want...

Direct your conversation in a productive direction of common interests and activities. If she wants to put the brakes on it she will bring up the boyfriend, fiance, lesbian lover, etc..

"Never say 'Ho' on a hard pull" to quote my buddy.

 

[Baldr]

Thank you both for the advice. I'm starting to notice this is going to be a sticking point for me a similar thing happened yesterday. I won't go into detail as I'm doing a report on it, but I approach, I talk, then I forget to move her and stuff. It's something I'm going to have to work on. I get so elated that I actually approached I forget to do the rest haha. I also for just kinda ask if they're single on reaction now which is kind f a bad thing. Anyway thanks guys. Much appreciated.