Effective Time Utilization in Daytime Approach

[Marty]

As I look back over my progress in what Chase terms "the social arts" since I discovered this invaluable site, in many ways I am surprised at what I have been capable of. If someone had told me back in April that over the next half-year I would engage in conversation with over 75 girls, make my romantic interest in them clear, ask them on dates and request their phone numbers, I'd have scoffed. Less still would I have believed that 30 of them would actually give me their numbers.

However, I have plowed quite a lot of time into it, and I want to review my "return on investment" and understand how it can be benchmarked against others' achievements and expectations.

I have been engaging in daytime approach most days for the past 23 weeks. On average, I spend 8 to 10 hours per week out in the streets selecting targets for approach. Yet I only succeed in opening an average of between 3 and 4 girls per week. Of those, fewer than 1 in 20 respond to my subsequent text or phone invitations in the affirmative (meaning that they actually meet with me a second time in person).

Is there a less time-consuming way of doing this? I would guess the answer is that you simply have to put in the hours, but it does seem rather wasteful in terms of effort spent. Can anyone suggest a more effective way of identifying larger numbers of suitable potential lovers during the daytime, more economically from a time perspective, and acting quickly on those identified, while avoiding a total scatter-shot that would be in violation of Chase's precepts outlined in Make a Girl Feel Special: Seduction's Silver Bullet?

 

[Marty]

Fellas: if anyone has time, I really need help with this. 9 out of 10 girls are not opening at all because they drop eye contact before I can even open my mouth to speak. Sometimes even walk on by. What's so disappointing is that I can tell from their smiles and facial expressions that they'd be open to meeting me. I don't know what I'm doing wrong. It takes me on average 2+ hours of street work to open each girl. Reading between the lines from what others have written, I'm guessing there must be a quicker way! Please let me into the secret! Thanks

 

[trashKENNUT]

Marty,

Day Game relies mostly on traffic, the women there. Yes, it can be time consuming if the traffic of beautiful women is low, and women are not as what you want, in terms of looks.

So take this Chase advice, I remmber he noted, place is important. The turnover rate of women at the location helps.

Zac

 

[Marty]

I don't know, Zac, traffic might be the issue, but I do see good numbers of attractive girls around. They just break eye contact before I can even open my mouth to speak. Sometimes they even walk straight past me before I've even said a word.

I wonder whether by opening lots of girls previously I have somehow spoiled my image, they no longer see me as a serious man, just another promiscuous guy. Can it be written on my face somehow?

Here are the facts: in May, I opened 6 girls. In June: 12. July: 17. August: 17. September: 21. You can see how my confidence increased from month to month.

And in October, to date? 3. Just three girls would open for me so far this month! And I have gone out almost every day!

Women tell me I have a good appearance and figure, even strangers sometimes compliment my clothes, some woman I know, the wife of a friend, once actually mentioned she liked my haircut. But the women I open in the street... barely any of them follow through on dates, and now they won't even open for me! I literally cannot hold their gaze for the few seconds it takes to approach and say hello.

Do you think it's possible I have harmed my serious aura like I suggested above, giving instead an impression of frivolity?

-Marty

 

[PinotNoir]

As far as time utilization, I would actually compare this to running.

When you first begin running, you hear that serious runners run about 50+ miles/week (70-100+ for Olympic athletes). As a beginner, you see this as near impossible while you claw for a measly 20 miles/week. However, as you get faster, you realize that you can now run 4 miles in 30 min, compared to when you could only do 3 miles in 30 min. You can do the same amount of time and pump more miles in because you're faster and your muscles are more efficient. In fact, once you're fast enough, you can decrease time and increase miles!

So I think at this beginning stage, you will pump in a lot of hours and time. But as you get more experienced with girls that are open and with girls that are "your type" and with being sexy and a good conversationalist, you'll eventually be able to do less time and get more numbers and dates. So don't get discouraged, just keep going.

If you feel like you're not improving, then check your fundamentals. Read up on GC articles. Are you actively trying to be as sexy as possible? Is your posture/voice/eye contact smooth and controlled? Is your conversation good? Are you persistent? Are you creating deep (memorable) conversations?

If you want to keep getting the same results, then keep doing the same thing. However, don't be afraid to change it up. Try different things.

9 out of 10 girls are not opening at all because they drop eye contact before I can even open my mouth to speak. Sometimes even walk on by.

This is giving you experience and improving you on what girls are open and what are not.

You also never reached your goal of talking with them. Turn around, walk with them, and say, "Excuse me, I never do this, but you look ravishing. Are you single?" That's it. Reach your goal during "training."

Try women that aren't walking. There's a recent GC article on sitting girls. Try girls that are standing and waiting for a light to change. If a girl is looking around, that's just one sign that she is open to meeting new people; use it.

Try indirect direct openers as for something new and fresh:

"Hey, do you know where so-and-so is? Oh thanks. By the way, I'm Marty; what's your name?"
"You look lost. Do yo need any help? No, okay. By the way, your dress is gorgeous."
"You know where I can grab a good cup of coffee?"
etc.

Good luck! And I haven't checked your posts, but also post FRs! It's really helpful to get criticism to see how to improve.

 

[Marty]

PinotNoir:

Thanks for your kind advice. I'll take it to heart, and keep in mind next time I go out. I certainly think this will help a lot.

I can certainly relate to the running analogy. A good one, thank you.

Good luck! And I haven't checked your posts, but also post FRs! It's really helpful to get criticism to see how to improve.

Just for the sake of completeness, here are links to my Field Reports (there aren't very many):

FR: university student in Starbucks
FR: LongSexyLegs
FR: PerfectGirlfriend
FR: SuppleCheeks
FR: glad I avoided this one
FR: Acted on Approach Invitation for the 1st time

-Marty