Environment matters for day game?

[PinotNoir]

In the study, men were instructed to approach women in front of a flower shop, a shoe shop, and a bakery and to try to get their phone number. The men were instructed say only 3 things: Their name, to tell the woman she was very pretty and to ask for her number, so they could meet for a drink later. The result: When they were approached outside the shoe shop, 1 in 10 women handed over their number. Outside the bakery, the number rose to 1 in 7. But when they were standing outside a flower shop, 25 percent of the women were happy to share their phone number. Why? Because they felt more relaxed around nature.

http://www.tesh.com/story/love-and-rela ... 3/id/24693

In my own life, I think this may be true, but I haven't done enough research to know yet.

I did a horrible approach at the park, and she gave over her number easily, and we had a date.

If you're not getting results, perhaps try a different environment that makes people happier?

The coffee shop in the morning sounds like a great idea.... but when most people are in the coffee shop in the morning, they're thinking about work and getting active, so maybe this isn't a great idea.

Have women more easily given their numbers to you when in/around a environment that is more pleasing?

 

[Ross]

Well, I couldn't find the study, so I can't comment on it's legitimacy. That seems like an awfully lengthy conclusion for simply finding women willing to give out their phone numbers.

Perhaps the answer is to create an environment between the two of you that makes the conversation enjoyable, rather than seeking out the environments which may or may not make others happy. I'm not going out of my way to find old women at flower shops who are willing to give away their number .

 

[Nova]

I think it definitely has an impact.

There is a reason why beach pick up is a lot more likely to lead to a first day lay versus trying to make it happen talking to a stranger in the pouring rain at 8am in the morning. Choosing where and when you go out to talk to girls, in my opinion is very important.

Even small changes in environment could potentially result in different outcomes. Ie, talking to a girl outside her favorite shop will yield different results to talking to exactly the same girl in a new town she is unfamiliar with - providing you approach and engage her in the same way.

The environment, weather, time of day affects peoples moods, decisions, circumstances, feelings and emotions which result in a plethora of different results for you. The important thing for you, is to recognize this and know how to adapt to your surroundings.

 

[PinotNoir]

Thanks guys for the feedback.

It was just an interesting thing I heard/read. If you have 100% mastery of seduction but an extremely poor environment, then it will be tough. And if you have 100% good environment but no understanding of what women want, then it will be tough. Of course, I would prefer the former, since it's easy to change environments!

It's just not something that I've heard/read about in PUA-land. It's usually just discussions on day game vs night game, but little talk about how the environment is important (more like a footnote or not mentioned at all).

I have seen guys with what I perceive as equal fundamentals having different amounts of success, so sometimes it's good to shake it up and try a different place perhaps?

Has there ever been that specific place that you always taste success (or 90% of the time)? Has environment ever played a factor in your successes and/or failures out in the field? Or is this just a dumb topic?

In 2014, maybe I'll try some new places that I usually don't try and see if it changes anything (but probably just a sign that I'm improving, and not the place).

Of course, I don't think you should focus on environments; everything else should come first. But, if you're looking to tweak some minor details, maybe this could help?

 

[Just_Dave]

Hey Pinot,

Personal thoughts on the experiment:
There are many variables to consider about this experiment that could have led to guys not getting the girls number: It all comes down to fundamentals
Vibe, was he nervous
Style, did he bring his A game
Sexy, was he a overall sexy man to here
Rapport, you can get a girls number right off the bat if she felt an awesome connection to you.

You can get girls anywhere: Be stateless
Comical Comment:
I've done pick ups in the rain, hot tub, beach, snowstorms, rainstorms etc . . I like water and my women wet haha

Logical Answer:
I say environments can play a factor but I think the key to remember in seduction is not to be influenced by outside interference. The actual point I am attempting to make here is the importance of being stateless and framing the interaction as sexual.
Stay frosty,

Just Dave

 

[PinotNoir]

Thanks. Well, that pretty much answers that question

It was just something I heard and wanted to get input on. Thanks guys!