Europeans here, how does race/ethnicity of a guy factor in due to recent events?

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

I base this off of Chase's post on mind control and media where he mentioned the situation in Europe.

I've done pretty well for myself in the USA but I have thought about gaming abroad. While I am Indian, it is common for a lot of people to mistake us for Pakistanis and "Muslims".

Keeping up with the news and the "refugee crisis", I have heard a few events online in countries such as Scandinavian countries and central Europe where a lot of brown Middle Eastern men are committing most of the rapes and violence against women. For a while, I used to hear how Swedish women were pretty open to going for non-whites but I am wondering how much this has changed due to the current circumstances.

Now I would imagine that some random European girl who is used to being stalked and even faces the fear of being raped by some refugee who was not properly vetted by her country's government would probably be somewhat scared if a brown guy in general came up to her and cold approached her. I would also imagine that bars and clubs would be tougher to get into if you look ethnically like some of the refugees who come to Europe.

Has it made the game rough for non-white guys in general and a tough obstacle for guys who ethnically resemble the refugees?

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: Europeans here, how does race/ethnicity of a guy factor in due to recent eve

I will not bump the thread again but in case anyone is interested in responding, I am all ears.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: Europeans here, how does race/ethnicity of a guy factor in due to recent eve

Looked through my PMs with a very respected forum member on here who I have got into arguments with sometimes. From what I remember, he was in Malmo, Sweden and says that mixed race couples there were unheard of. I've often heard that the Swedes are very image conscious people who want to appear as being nice and caring to the world but once you get past the image, they are very racist and judgmental. I think that is how far left liberalism is, they tend to see everyone as a race instead of as individuals. I've heard that Sweden is amazing for black guys from many people but other minorities (especially those that look Arab) are seen as very lowly. I often hear a lot about the rape wave coming from Muslim immigrants there so things seem really bad over there.

I have known an Asian guy, Indian guy, and a few latinos that managed to pull hot girls in France so there is that.

 

[CaptainHenley]

Re: Europeans here, how does race/ethnicity of a guy factor in due to recent eve

Well I have been wondering the same as a European.

You hear a lot of different opinions here, and it's quite difficult to really pinpoint whats happening.

Also, actions speak louder than words, many people dont express any hostile feelings towards Arabs and Muslims, but their actions say otherwise.

For example an Italian friend of mine, who has the meditterenean style, and doesnt look like a Muslim or Arab, but has a beard and long hair, said to me that after all the things that have happened he has noticed a difference, in the sense that he now has a lot of people telling him "pal you better shave you remind me of a terrorist","get a haircut buddy", etc.. While before he was considered quite attractive-mysterious, and that definately still is his style, he faces a lot of those comments daily, from men and women alike.

Thats the only example that I know of, but I havent been on the hunt to explore whats really going on with this case, though I too wonder about it.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: Europeans here, how does race/ethnicity of a guy factor in due to recent eve

Well I have been wondering the same as a European.

You hear a lot of different opinions here, and it's quite difficult to really pinpoint whats happening.

Also, actions speak louder than words, many people dont express any hostile feelings towards Arabs and Muslims, but their actions say otherwise.

For example an Italian friend of mine, who has the meditterenean style, and doesnt look like a Muslim or Arab, but has a beard and long hair, said to me that after all the things that have happened he has noticed a difference, in the sense that he now has a lot of people telling him "pal you better shave you remind me of a terrorist","get a haircut buddy", etc.. While before he was considered quite attractive-mysterious, and that definately still is his style, he faces a lot of those comments daily, from men and women alike.

Thats the only example that I know of, but I havent been on the hunt to explore whats really going on with this case, though I too wonder about it.

I would love to hear more about it.

Man, I wonder what the Euro governments were thinking when they did something like this.

 

[Chase]

Re: Europeans here, how does race/ethnicity of a guy factor in due to recent eve

Western Europe is in the process of a mindset shift. 3 years ago, Western Europeans were the most open-minded people on Earth. However, as a result of the migration crisis, this is changing.

The thing to keep in mind about mindset shifts is that they take time to spread. It seems like Europe is still about 40% open-minded / multi-culturalist, including more women than men (by comparison, 3 years ago Western Europe was probably 70-80% open-minded / multi-culturalist). As more Middle Eastern and North African men swarm into Europe and cause a lot of problems Europeans aren't accustomed to dealing with, Europeans will come to like men who look and act like these men less and less. Simple Pavlovian conditioning.

I will say I was just in Eastern Europe, which is one of the most racist places on Earth, and met a couple of Tunisian men (North African, Muslim) who seemed to do well with the local girls. And this was a day after a Tunisian man rammed a truck through a crowd of people in Nice and killed 80+ individuals. But worth noting here is that these two guys were cool.

I expect the men who will suffer most in Europe will be those Middle Eastern-looking men who are not cool. If you're cool, you are in many ways beyond race. If you're not cool yet, race may yet be an anchor around your neck. There's just not as much to note about you when you're not cool yet, so race stands out a lot more as one of your more prominent features. I'll tell you my initial reaction on meeting those Tunisian guys was, "Oh. These guys are cool. They don't seem like guys who'd ram a truck through a crowd of people at all," and I liked them even more for defying the day-old impression I had of Tunisians (not having met anyone from Tunisia before).

I've had similar reactions from girls in my own travels. Pleasant surprise --> "Oh! You don't seem like an American at all!", when the girl's prior impression of Americans was that we are all poorly dressed, loud, boorish slobs who think we're above everyone else. You go in dressed well, comport yourself in a dignified manner, and behave in a cool, charming, seductive way, and she's left to think she's got it all wrong and actually men from your background are quite alluring. And then you sleep with her, and cause her to like men like you even more

If you do not defy expectations, and you seem like the uncalibrated, sexually frustrated Middle Eastern type Europeans are learning they have to fear, I suspect you will do poorly in Europe. However, if you are cool, calibrated, and sexually confident, I expect you'll do just fine in the European continent.

Chase

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Re: Europeans here, how does race/ethnicity of a guy factor in due to recent eve

Chase, thank you for replying to my thread and paying attention to it, this is something I feel like needs more discussion. I truly wonder what went through the minds of European officials when they decided to go through with the uncontrolled immigration.

One thing you do have going for you though, Chase, is that you're white. I bet if you walked in well dressed and classy, everyone simply looked at you and thought you were no different from any other European. I do not know if this would work for a brown guy where your ethnic appearance alone is already outcasting you. Being cool and game work well when you are in a social circle setting and people get to know you overtime but I doubt they work as well if say you are going out to bars and clubs running game.

I guess Europe is a big place but the countries I was interested in were the Scandinavian ones. I've heard decent things about Denmark and Norway but I have heard that Swedes are by far the most racist of all the western Europeans, towards brown people at least. A couple of Swedish guys have told me that if you aren't white, black, or East Asian; your race will definitely be a big thing working against you since that country has felt a lot of the effects of the refugee crisis.