I haven't posted in here in ages. This is a 2 part question—1 part practical/tactical, 1 part spiritual/psychological.
Ive been having dates recently with girls who express that they really like me, then completely back away.
EXAMPLE 1:
In one case a woman who texted me the next day: "Wow, I had such a wonderful time, I can't wait to see you again!" but then started playing an unreasonable game of hard to get.
When I asked "when are you free?" she wouldn't say.
When I invited her to dinner she said "I have plans with friends" (the day before she had said she was free that particular day)
Sent her a text: "how about next Tuesday" (no reply for 2 days)
Called her 2 days later: no answer, no call back
EXAMPLE 2:
Second date with a girl I did a fair bit of making out with on date 1 and tried to get up to her apartment but she said it was messy.
2 days ago she texted me "Hey there wanted to thank you again for a fun night Saturday. Delicious dinner and good company! When are you leaving town?"
That set off 24 hours of very sexually charged text flirting, and a date at her house last night.
I arrived, went up to her apartment, she served wine, through the night some touching on her hand, arm, back, a couple of small kisses, and basic escalation.
When I ramped up a bit and went to give her the first "proper kiss" she pulled away and said "Listen, I like hanging out with you, but this just isn't 'clicking' for me."
I felt disappointed and annoyed...because she gave every indication that she was really into me and ready for sex.
I also considered that it might be LMR.
So I was cool about it, and told her ok, I get it, and just continued to lay in the exact same position on the sofa.
She went off to the kitchen to do something while I played with my phone and wondered how long I needed to sober up enough to drive home.
After maybe 10 minutes of me basically freezing her out, she came back and laid right on top of me on the sofa, face to face, and started writing around, pressing her hips on mine, putting her tits in my face, etc. I responded by feeling up her ass and putting my face into her neck. When I started kissing her neck, she ABRUPTLY pulled away, looked in the other direction and froze me out. I tried to grab her, dominate a bit and pull her back down, but she wasn't having it.
I got up, went to the bathroom, came back, put on my boots, said "OK, Bye" and walked out.
PRACTICAL QUESTION:
What the fuck is going on? Is this garden variety Shit testing or Playing Hard to Get? Or are these girls missing a bolt somewhere?
Have I not responded correctly? What tactics could be used in a situation like this, short of just completely ignoring them?
Both these girls are 28, never married.
PSYCHOLOGICAL QUESTION:
Look, it's pretty hard NOT to be angry/upset when something like this happens, even if I conclude that the girls are damaged in some way.
I feel like a total sucker.
I've taken these girls out, spent time and energy and money on them, I've played my cards pretty well I think, and I certainly haven't done anything to deserve the bitch treatment.
And yet they feel that because they have a pussy, they can be as rude and disrespectful to me as they like.
Who feels this way?
What do you do different to NOT feel this way?
And more important—what do you different to NOT be in this situation ever again?!
Ive been having dates recently with girls who express that they really like me, then completely back away.
EXAMPLE 1:
In one case a woman who texted me the next day: "Wow, I had such a wonderful time, I can't wait to see you again!" but then started playing an unreasonable game of hard to get.
When I asked "when are you free?" she wouldn't say.
When I invited her to dinner she said "I have plans with friends" (the day before she had said she was free that particular day)
Sent her a text: "how about next Tuesday" (no reply for 2 days)
Called her 2 days later: no answer, no call back
EXAMPLE 2:
Second date with a girl I did a fair bit of making out with on date 1 and tried to get up to her apartment but she said it was messy.
2 days ago she texted me "Hey there wanted to thank you again for a fun night Saturday. Delicious dinner and good company! When are you leaving town?"
That set off 24 hours of very sexually charged text flirting, and a date at her house last night.
I arrived, went up to her apartment, she served wine, through the night some touching on her hand, arm, back, a couple of small kisses, and basic escalation.
When I ramped up a bit and went to give her the first "proper kiss" she pulled away and said "Listen, I like hanging out with you, but this just isn't 'clicking' for me."
I felt disappointed and annoyed...because she gave every indication that she was really into me and ready for sex.
I also considered that it might be LMR.
So I was cool about it, and told her ok, I get it, and just continued to lay in the exact same position on the sofa.
She went off to the kitchen to do something while I played with my phone and wondered how long I needed to sober up enough to drive home.
After maybe 10 minutes of me basically freezing her out, she came back and laid right on top of me on the sofa, face to face, and started writing around, pressing her hips on mine, putting her tits in my face, etc. I responded by feeling up her ass and putting my face into her neck. When I started kissing her neck, she ABRUPTLY pulled away, looked in the other direction and froze me out. I tried to grab her, dominate a bit and pull her back down, but she wasn't having it.
I got up, went to the bathroom, came back, put on my boots, said "OK, Bye" and walked out.
PRACTICAL QUESTION:
What the fuck is going on? Is this garden variety Shit testing or Playing Hard to Get? Or are these girls missing a bolt somewhere?
Have I not responded correctly? What tactics could be used in a situation like this, short of just completely ignoring them?
Both these girls are 28, never married.
PSYCHOLOGICAL QUESTION:
Look, it's pretty hard NOT to be angry/upset when something like this happens, even if I conclude that the girls are damaged in some way.
I feel like a total sucker.
I've taken these girls out, spent time and energy and money on them, I've played my cards pretty well I think, and I certainly haven't done anything to deserve the bitch treatment.
And yet they feel that because they have a pussy, they can be as rude and disrespectful to me as they like.
Who feels this way?
What do you do different to NOT feel this way?
And more important—what do you different to NOT be in this situation ever again?!