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Hey guys,
This year has been crazy. It's been an amazing adventure which has brought me more twist and turns than I could have ever imagined. After hundreds of approaches, countless of pulls, tons of LMR and in the end a few lays, my skills as a seducer have grown exponentially and my mind has never been clearer. The mystery of women does not seem so puzzling anymore. The matrix has finally started to slow down, but only now I realize how much more I have to learn.
This LR is one of those things. Fiona was my lay #3 and someone I hoped to convert as a fuckbuddy, but I failed miserably. So even though this was a lay, I still consider this a minor failure as I failed to retain the girl. So I'd really like to get notes from you guys on what I did wrong regarding post sex retention.
This lay was very random. I was on my way home from a Christmas party, but nobody was going out because we all had exams coming up soon. I decided however to stop by my favourite bar Passenger for a few drinks and see how the vibe was. The bouncers know me because I've been there so many times and let me walk right in without standing in line. Sweet.
I felt a bit overdressed, I was wearing my tweed blazer, dress pants, brogue shoes and a white shirt. But at least I looked good. I got a beer, found a seat next to the dancefloor and just soaked in my surroundings with sly smile on my face. After a few minutes, I hear somebody call out my name.
I look to my right and see Fiona walk up to me with a huge grin on her face. We used to work together a couple of years ago when I was working part time at a small burger joint, but she had a boyfriend then. We actually matched on tinder this spring after she became single and we were supposed to meet up in a club back then (I know horrible idea), but she flaked on me. Last thing I heard she was going to London for her studies.
I don't remember if we hugged. She told me her London plans got screwed up and she was back here. She was being very flirty and sexual. She's a photographer so she was showing me these sexy facial expressions and she tried to teach me some. It was a lot of fun. I told her she was being very sexual and I loved it. After a while I invited her back to my place, but she said it was too early. She then walked back to her friends. I decided to scope out the rest of the bar and see if I could find any other interesting girls. I think I made a couple of approaches but none of them hooked. I ended up seated next to the dancefloor again and I see Fiona flirting and touching a couple of the guys in her group. I guess she was very horny that night. These two guys next to me started chatting me up and complimented me on my outfit telling me I was bound to get laid tonight (little did they know, hahah...). Then I see Fiona seated by herself and I decide to move over there. We flirted a bit more and the vibe is good. I told her I'm about to leave but she asked me stay a little bit longer. I reluctantly stayed.
The bar starts to shut down and Fiona says she's starving. I tell her I've got food at my place (which I did) and tell her to come back to my place. She was kinda sceptical, but I persist and she gives in. On our way back to my place she joked that she's not gonna sleep with me and I'm gonna be so annoyed when she doesn't put out. I just laugh and tell her I don't care what we do. And I meant that. I mean of course I was going to try, but I would be happy just having a hot girl in my bed for the night. When we got to my place I warm up some thai food I made earlier that day in the microwave and made some drinks. She's in the bathroom downstairs. When she comes up she's wrapped in a towel and wearing this incredibly sexy one piece underwear. She had decided to take a shower, lol. I gave her a bowl of some food and she loved it. We cuddled up on the sofa for a few minutes and just talked. She was asking me if I liked her when we were working together and how she found my accent sexy. I was completely honest and told her I didn't like her that much at first (she's got a bitch face), but I grew founder of her and there had always been this tension between us. I decided to go for the kiss and gave her light peck on the lips. No resistance. Good.
I clean up the kitchen and tell her we're going downstairs. I show her my room before I hit the bathroom, brush my teeth and do a few push-ups (haha I know). We cuddle up in bed and start kissing lightly. I start licking her body. I pull out her big tits and start licking them. She's moaning. I lick my way down to her belly and I try to go for the pussy but she resists. I start back up and work my way down but she resists again. I then stop all escalation as we're going to sleep. But for some reason I knew she wanted it. I don't how - maybe it was because she was still grinding my dick, or maybe because she was still cuddling and kissing - I don't exactly remember what it was, but somehow I knew she wanted it. So I start to escalate again. This time more passionate than ever. I'm teasing and licking her whole body. Her magnificent tits get a lot of attention and she's moaning harder and harder. In one passionate surge we take of her incredibly hot one piece and I start teasing her pussy. After that it's game over.
The next morning we fuck again. Her body was insane, I mean pornstar body (she's actually done some modelling for a couple of sexy hipster magazines) and her pussy was incredibly tight. I had to be careful not thrusting too hard when going doggy because she said my dick was too big (lol) and it hurt. The sex was incredible for me, but I sadly I did't make her cum. She was very loving and cuddly in the morning and we laughed and talked a lot after the morning sex. I'm absolutely certain she had a great time (and it would've probably been amazing for her if I made her orgasm), she also told me she had to be completely at ease to cum (yeah right....).
Before we left the bed I told her we should do this again soon and she made a joke saying "fuck that, I don't wanna see you again" very sarcastically. We laughed. she then told me she'd been very indifferent to guys she liked nowadays. I told her: hey, I understand if you want this to be a one time thing but I think your very sexy and chill. Something like that. She smiled and said yeah sure we should see each other again. Then I tried to set something up the week after, but she was vague saying we could figure it out next week. While leaving she mentioned my american football gear in my room. I then made a comment about how sexy it would be fucking her with her wearing my jersey. She didn't answer. I then kissed her goodbye at the door before she left.
Here is the text convo after that night:
A day later
Me - Hey, had fun yesterday
I hope the bus ride home wasn't too awful, haha. tvktvk
She didn't respond. 3 days later I text her again
Me - Hey Fiona, did you do any shoots this week? I was wondering if you have any plans this weekend, thought we could watch a movie (I mentioned this when we were together)
Fiona - Hey
I may be travelling to x city this weeend, not sure yet. I'll let you know!
Me - I've been booking meetings for my boss in x city today, haha random. All right, I'm busy on saturday but lemme know if you're free sunday.
She doesn't respond, so I text her again a week later
M - Hey Fiona, hope you're weekend was good
Do you have plans thursday/friday?
F - I got plans on thursday and I'm unfortunately travelling to Y city on friday This was true, she had booked photo shoots in Y city that weekend, long before we got involved
My weekend was good, what about yours?
M - My weekend was good, had some amazing cuisine
Ahh I see, have fun in Y city, I'll message you.
I text her again next week
M - Hey miss, how are you? Hope Y city was awesome
F - I'm good
Y city was great! What about you?
M - Finally done at work, so now I'm good
Great, I'm actually heading to Y city for a concert next week. Do you have any plans this week?
F - Sadly I do... Can we meet up next week? I'm heading to the family cabin this weekend and meeting a friend tomorrow.
M - Hahah no worries. I've got a few things happening next week, but I think I have some time early next week. Are you free tuesday?
F - I'll let you know this weekend
F - I can't tuesday.. I'm going out with my friend I'm with today (monkey emoji covering eyes)
M - You're a nightmare scheduling with!
Haha ok what about sunday next week. Only other day I'm available.
F - That's so far from now (monkey emoji) I think we should to plan more next week.
M - Haha ok, let's say sunday next week and we'll pan further when I'm back from Y city.
F - Great
When I get back from Y city I text her, it was friday
M - Hey Fiona, hope youre week's been good! I can garantuee you that your Y city trip was better than mine...heh. Still free sunday?
F - Why was Y city so bad?
M - Long story hahah, I can tell it better in person
F - I've been thinking a bit lately. It would be kinda weird for me to hang out like we did last time.. Feels unnatural actually
I understand if you are dissapointed.
I already knew here that this is pretty much fucked. And the only way I could have changed her mind was in person, but I tried to do it over text...
M - It was a bit weird last time haha, but it also felt good and I had fun with you
If you feel the same way I think we should meet up. What do you think?
F - I don't know. I mean it was nice. But I'm not interested in anything intimate. And it's probably no point in meeting if that's what you want.
M - I don't anything serious if that's what you mean. Come over on sunday.
F - No, I mean being intimate together like last time.
M - Ahh, wel was it bad for you? WHY THE FUCK DID I TEXT THAT
F - Like I said, it was nice. But it just feels weird and unnatural. So I don't what to repeat it.
At this point I felt I had pushed enough
M - Ok, then I'll just respect that. Yeah, in that case I don't think you should come over, I wouldn't be able to keep my hands to myself, haha. Let me know if you change your mind in the future
Take care Fiona
Thoughts:
- Should have made her cum when we were together
- Should probably not have made such a big deal about seeing her again before she left, that wasn't very chill or alpha
- The last texting part was horrid from my side
This one kinda stung because I really thought I could set this girl up as a fuckbuddy. That amazing body still pops into my mind from time to time...We had a great time and she knew me from before, so I thought she'd more at ease about hooking up again. I think one of the reasons she felt the whole thing as weird is that maybe she's never been seduced like that before. When we worked together I remember she told me she was the one initiating and moving the interaction forward with her exes. Or maybe I'm just being delusional...
Anyways, we live and we learn. I finished off the year with my lay #4 a few weeks ago, fastest pull I've ever done. I had her home within 20 minutes. I was actually just keeping her busy so my bro could hook up with her friend, lol #elitewingmanshit. After 10 months of struggle I've had 4 lays in about 4 months. Just crazy considering where I was 14 months ago. I've also started dating this german hottie, she may actually be relationship worthy. We'll see where things go...
Here's to an even better 2016!
tvktvk
This year has been crazy. It's been an amazing adventure which has brought me more twist and turns than I could have ever imagined. After hundreds of approaches, countless of pulls, tons of LMR and in the end a few lays, my skills as a seducer have grown exponentially and my mind has never been clearer. The mystery of women does not seem so puzzling anymore. The matrix has finally started to slow down, but only now I realize how much more I have to learn.
This LR is one of those things. Fiona was my lay #3 and someone I hoped to convert as a fuckbuddy, but I failed miserably. So even though this was a lay, I still consider this a minor failure as I failed to retain the girl. So I'd really like to get notes from you guys on what I did wrong regarding post sex retention.
This lay was very random. I was on my way home from a Christmas party, but nobody was going out because we all had exams coming up soon. I decided however to stop by my favourite bar Passenger for a few drinks and see how the vibe was. The bouncers know me because I've been there so many times and let me walk right in without standing in line. Sweet.
I felt a bit overdressed, I was wearing my tweed blazer, dress pants, brogue shoes and a white shirt. But at least I looked good. I got a beer, found a seat next to the dancefloor and just soaked in my surroundings with sly smile on my face. After a few minutes, I hear somebody call out my name.
I look to my right and see Fiona walk up to me with a huge grin on her face. We used to work together a couple of years ago when I was working part time at a small burger joint, but she had a boyfriend then. We actually matched on tinder this spring after she became single and we were supposed to meet up in a club back then (I know horrible idea), but she flaked on me. Last thing I heard she was going to London for her studies.
I don't remember if we hugged. She told me her London plans got screwed up and she was back here. She was being very flirty and sexual. She's a photographer so she was showing me these sexy facial expressions and she tried to teach me some. It was a lot of fun. I told her she was being very sexual and I loved it. After a while I invited her back to my place, but she said it was too early. She then walked back to her friends. I decided to scope out the rest of the bar and see if I could find any other interesting girls. I think I made a couple of approaches but none of them hooked. I ended up seated next to the dancefloor again and I see Fiona flirting and touching a couple of the guys in her group. I guess she was very horny that night. These two guys next to me started chatting me up and complimented me on my outfit telling me I was bound to get laid tonight (little did they know, hahah...). Then I see Fiona seated by herself and I decide to move over there. We flirted a bit more and the vibe is good. I told her I'm about to leave but she asked me stay a little bit longer. I reluctantly stayed.
The bar starts to shut down and Fiona says she's starving. I tell her I've got food at my place (which I did) and tell her to come back to my place. She was kinda sceptical, but I persist and she gives in. On our way back to my place she joked that she's not gonna sleep with me and I'm gonna be so annoyed when she doesn't put out. I just laugh and tell her I don't care what we do. And I meant that. I mean of course I was going to try, but I would be happy just having a hot girl in my bed for the night. When we got to my place I warm up some thai food I made earlier that day in the microwave and made some drinks. She's in the bathroom downstairs. When she comes up she's wrapped in a towel and wearing this incredibly sexy one piece underwear. She had decided to take a shower, lol. I gave her a bowl of some food and she loved it. We cuddled up on the sofa for a few minutes and just talked. She was asking me if I liked her when we were working together and how she found my accent sexy. I was completely honest and told her I didn't like her that much at first (she's got a bitch face), but I grew founder of her and there had always been this tension between us. I decided to go for the kiss and gave her light peck on the lips. No resistance. Good.
I clean up the kitchen and tell her we're going downstairs. I show her my room before I hit the bathroom, brush my teeth and do a few push-ups (haha I know). We cuddle up in bed and start kissing lightly. I start licking her body. I pull out her big tits and start licking them. She's moaning. I lick my way down to her belly and I try to go for the pussy but she resists. I start back up and work my way down but she resists again. I then stop all escalation as we're going to sleep. But for some reason I knew she wanted it. I don't how - maybe it was because she was still grinding my dick, or maybe because she was still cuddling and kissing - I don't exactly remember what it was, but somehow I knew she wanted it. So I start to escalate again. This time more passionate than ever. I'm teasing and licking her whole body. Her magnificent tits get a lot of attention and she's moaning harder and harder. In one passionate surge we take of her incredibly hot one piece and I start teasing her pussy. After that it's game over.
The next morning we fuck again. Her body was insane, I mean pornstar body (she's actually done some modelling for a couple of sexy hipster magazines) and her pussy was incredibly tight. I had to be careful not thrusting too hard when going doggy because she said my dick was too big (lol) and it hurt. The sex was incredible for me, but I sadly I did't make her cum. She was very loving and cuddly in the morning and we laughed and talked a lot after the morning sex. I'm absolutely certain she had a great time (and it would've probably been amazing for her if I made her orgasm), she also told me she had to be completely at ease to cum (yeah right....).
Before we left the bed I told her we should do this again soon and she made a joke saying "fuck that, I don't wanna see you again" very sarcastically. We laughed. she then told me she'd been very indifferent to guys she liked nowadays. I told her: hey, I understand if you want this to be a one time thing but I think your very sexy and chill. Something like that. She smiled and said yeah sure we should see each other again. Then I tried to set something up the week after, but she was vague saying we could figure it out next week. While leaving she mentioned my american football gear in my room. I then made a comment about how sexy it would be fucking her with her wearing my jersey. She didn't answer. I then kissed her goodbye at the door before she left.
Here is the text convo after that night:
A day later
Me - Hey, had fun yesterday
She didn't respond. 3 days later I text her again
Me - Hey Fiona, did you do any shoots this week? I was wondering if you have any plans this weekend, thought we could watch a movie (I mentioned this when we were together)
Fiona - Hey
Me - I've been booking meetings for my boss in x city today, haha random. All right, I'm busy on saturday but lemme know if you're free sunday.
She doesn't respond, so I text her again a week later
M - Hey Fiona, hope you're weekend was good
F - I got plans on thursday and I'm unfortunately travelling to Y city on friday This was true, she had booked photo shoots in Y city that weekend, long before we got involved
M - My weekend was good, had some amazing cuisine
I text her again next week
M - Hey miss, how are you? Hope Y city was awesome
F - I'm good
M - Finally done at work, so now I'm good
F - Sadly I do... Can we meet up next week? I'm heading to the family cabin this weekend and meeting a friend tomorrow.
M - Hahah no worries. I've got a few things happening next week, but I think I have some time early next week. Are you free tuesday?
F - I'll let you know this weekend
F - I can't tuesday.. I'm going out with my friend I'm with today (monkey emoji covering eyes)
M - You're a nightmare scheduling with!
F - That's so far from now (monkey emoji) I think we should to plan more next week.
M - Haha ok, let's say sunday next week and we'll pan further when I'm back from Y city.
F - Great
When I get back from Y city I text her, it was friday
M - Hey Fiona, hope youre week's been good! I can garantuee you that your Y city trip was better than mine...heh. Still free sunday?
F - Why was Y city so bad?
M - Long story hahah, I can tell it better in person
F - I've been thinking a bit lately. It would be kinda weird for me to hang out like we did last time.. Feels unnatural actually
I already knew here that this is pretty much fucked. And the only way I could have changed her mind was in person, but I tried to do it over text...
M - It was a bit weird last time haha, but it also felt good and I had fun with you
F - I don't know. I mean it was nice. But I'm not interested in anything intimate. And it's probably no point in meeting if that's what you want.
M - I don't anything serious if that's what you mean. Come over on sunday.
F - No, I mean being intimate together like last time.
M - Ahh, wel was it bad for you? WHY THE FUCK DID I TEXT THAT
F - Like I said, it was nice. But it just feels weird and unnatural. So I don't what to repeat it.
At this point I felt I had pushed enough
M - Ok, then I'll just respect that. Yeah, in that case I don't think you should come over, I wouldn't be able to keep my hands to myself, haha. Let me know if you change your mind in the future
Thoughts:
- Should have made her cum when we were together
- Should probably not have made such a big deal about seeing her again before she left, that wasn't very chill or alpha
- The last texting part was horrid from my side
This one kinda stung because I really thought I could set this girl up as a fuckbuddy. That amazing body still pops into my mind from time to time...We had a great time and she knew me from before, so I thought she'd more at ease about hooking up again. I think one of the reasons she felt the whole thing as weird is that maybe she's never been seduced like that before. When we worked together I remember she told me she was the one initiating and moving the interaction forward with her exes. Or maybe I'm just being delusional...
Anyways, we live and we learn. I finished off the year with my lay #4 a few weeks ago, fastest pull I've ever done. I had her home within 20 minutes. I was actually just keeping her busy so my bro could hook up with her friend, lol #elitewingmanshit. After 10 months of struggle I've had 4 lays in about 4 months. Just crazy considering where I was 14 months ago. I've also started dating this german hottie, she may actually be relationship worthy. We'll see where things go...
Here's to an even better 2016!
tvktvk