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FiremanSam

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Hi,

Me and a friend met 2 girls a few weeks ago in a different city, and ended up taking them back to our hotel for an 'after party'. There was only one room and my friend starts getting heavy with one girl so me and the other go into the bathroom. When we had met earlier she said she had a boyfriend and we were just wing manning our friends. Eventually it comes up she doesn't have a boyfriend was just sort of seeing someone so I kiss her and things start to escalate.... Next thing our friends are done and open the door. Later that night were all in bed and things start up again and I'm fingering her, but she seems really shy about having other people in the room and stops it after a while(she wouldn't even get undressed with them there) then we go to sleep.

In the morning she asks for my number and starts texting me later in the day.. just chatting about pointless stuff, I tell her I'm going to be in the city we met again next week and she should meet up, she says she cant at night but can in the day. I get there late and by that time she has left so I just leave it. she initiates again the next day and we talk some more and I tell her I'm going to be in the city again and ask her to grab a drink with me in a few days, she says she's not sure of her work schedule and will let me know.

So on the day I asked to meet she texts and says she will be in the city too but with some friends on a girls night out and I should meet her in the club... I think this is a bit weird, but whatever I'm in a different city alone so I head out to the local bars for a bit, make some friends there get distracted and end up meeting her about 2 hours after I said I would as the club is closing.

Anyway to the point of this.... We end up going back to some guys house her friend is getting with and he has a spare room that we go into as soon as we get there. Start making out immediately.. after about 10 mins her dress comes off and I'm rubbing her, she's getting into it and takes her bra off. I start figuring her and everything going well. as I take my jeans off she starts to take her underwear off but stops saying we have no protection... I had none on me so I say ill be right back, run downstairs and get one from the guy who lives there.

When I get back she starts to take them off again but stops.... and says something like I don't think I can do this, I don't really respond and we start making out again and I'm back to fingering her. But then when I go to take them off again she says 'I feel weird, I want to have sex with you but I've never done it out of a relationship' I don't really remember how it happened but the next thing I know we are lying there talking about relationships and she is apologising profusely saying she really wanted to but just cant, and sorry for leading me on. Her tone was very indecisive, like she was having some internal conflict about whether to fuck me or not.

I was confused and not really sure what was happening but the sexual vibe had pretty much gone and we were just talking and opening up about all sorts of things, I know I had fucked up at this point but I didn't feel like I wanted to have sex with her at this point, it was weird. I'm Not sure how the conversation lead to this point but I remember her saying something like are you annoyed, and I said no I just feel like a bit of a pussy now(I know, O immediately thought wtf why did O say that but O was just feeling comfortable at this point and said what O felt -.-) she then says if you were a pussy I would be lying naked with you, then jumps on top of me and starts to go down on me.

She wasn't very good so after about 5 mins I pull her up and try to escalate again but this time she grabs my hand and pulls it away when I try to touch her. At this point I'm pretty tired and become unresponsive. She asks if I'm mad I say no I'm just tired and go to sleep.

The morning after I thought would be awkward but we talked some more and kissed a bit and it was actually kind of nice... but I didn't try to escalate again at this point. Her friends wanted to get home ASAP but she stayed with me as long as possible ignoring her friends text's to leave.

She text me later that day 'oh my god..'I have love bites all over my neck'
I responded 'I guess I got a bit carried away ;)'

no response.. I then left it for almost a week ( I intended to text her earlier but my kept putting it off)

I figures I probably left it a bit too long and tried some jokey text to start things off again which looking back I probably shouldn't have saying:

me: I have bad news for you
her: Which is?
me: North Korea is nuking us, but the good news is you can make last minute passionate love with me and we can die together

Which got no response, today, 3 days after that I figured I would send one last hail Mary.

Hey 'name', Hope your weeks been great. I enjoyed seeing you again last week - but we need to stop meeting like that :p. Lets grab a drink sometime next week - what's your schedule looking like?

Am I right in thinking I should have been more persistent that night? even if I wasn't was there a better way of going about it afterwards? I'm thinking now if I had just text her the next day asking her out again it might have gone better but I don't know.
 
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Richard

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Re: Failed to get past LMR...twice, should I give up?

Seems like her conflict was more than just should I fuck this guy or not? It seemed be like, is this guy relationship material, I want him for the relationship and sex might ruin it... things like that, in my opinion she placed you in the boyfriend category and wanted to wait for sex with you, but, if you had been persistent, she would have probably given in willingly, obviously she liked you a lot and agreed to meet several times. The thing that slowed the momentum was grabbing the condom, two things happened at that point:
1-Her reputation was at risk because she knew that if you grabbed one, people would KNOW the two of you fucked, and it would be HER friends that knew.
2-It gave her time to think about things logically instead of maintaining a sexual mindset, it allotted her time to think about that, as well as the 1st point I made...
Ohhh and 3, the build up of sexual energy, then the momentary stop to ask for a condom actually stopped her build up thus forcing you to start all over, and combat her rational/logical thinking.
 

FiremanSam

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I was actually pleased with how the night went, obviously would have been great to have sex but I didn't feel like persisting any further. However this seems to have made her lose interest now, she didn't respond to my last message about meeting again.

I don't know if this was because of what happened that night, or because I took a week to text her again after I said I would that night. Or because I ended up texting something stupid and jokey... I guess i will try to be a bit more persistant next time.
 

Richard

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The way the night panned out, in my opinion anyway, put you in a slight position to not mention sex during a few days of conversation. Looking back now, when you repeatedly bring up sex with anyone who isn't a nympho, it turns them off. Thus, after the night with the slight awkwardness involving some sexual activity to the downfall of not having sex, you shouldn't have mentioned it (sex) as you did with the North Korea joke, nor again when you brought it up in your last text "but we need to stop meeting like that. " Just little tweaks and bits you should keep in mind for future reference, and lastly, the final message you sent her was far toooooo long for a cold text, cold texts should open much shorter just to get the ball rolling.
 

HalfGuard

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Well something I've learned from experience is that if you have to go out to get a condom you can say goodbye to the sex ,if it is a girl you've just met it will give her time to think about what she is about to do and that's not good , even girls you've already slept with will give you a harder time as she will be kind of turned of. I'm not suggesting to go unprotected in fact I never wrestle without my mask , but always carry some condoms with you ANYWHERE you go , even to church.
But if you happen to end up in that situation again I would suggest starting over a few steps back when you come back with the condom instead of trying to get going from where you left of with the girl ( turn her on again )
Cheers
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