Faith in the compass of chaos, the soul

[DeepShadow]

Hi everyone, this is my first post and I do an introduction before I write some lays.

I state that I do not speak English well so I use google translate and I reread it by eye if there is something wrong, as far as I can see.

I am new to the world of seduction, or rather I had sometimes heard of these "movements" and read something years ago in my country. But it all seemed bullshit to me and I thought they were losers, at least from what I read in my country.

I could probably be classified as a natural, but it's a bit difficult and controversial and perhaps this partly led me to think that of seduction communities.

However, for a few months now I have decided to take my skills to a higher level and so I did some research in English and I came up with this site. It immediately struck me and I found myself very in tune, especially with the articles by chase, hector and alek. For the first time in my life, I said that there was someone on the web who didn't seem retarded when it came to women and who looked like they really had experience. So almost immediately I bought the course on charisma (which I have yet to start).


Natural non natural speech. I am about the mid-20s. 6.1 tall, about 85 kg with a fat percentage below 10% and an objectively nice face.

I have a very low amount of approaches and interactions with women. But for the number of women I have been with I would say I am at least intermediate (about 50 lays), calculating that an average man more or less in his life goes with 7 girls. At the same time if I evaluated myself by the number alone the evaluation would be different, because the fact that I only have that number of lays depends on spending very little time in this area of my life. This is why I could say that I am a natural, because I know how to do it and I understand women despite my lack of experience. Let's say I have the number of fights of an amateur boxer but I have the skills of a pro boxer or almost.

At the same time I find that this dichotomy and nature makes me find myself in a situation where, in some things where I could even be an expert and on some things almost a beginner. I don't know if I've passed the concept.

And I have a very high percentage of closure perhaps because I also have a super focused approach, the type that if I didn't go and talk to the girl someone would tell me that I'm a jerk. This is because until now I have spent my whole life without thinking about having fun and only about achieving my goals. And for this reason even now I won't write much because the few times. I go out I see myself with my brothers and business partners to talk without thinking about anything else generally. But on the other hand, surely having grit and having achieved results in other things and my profession on communication and having to understand the deep needs of people has helped me indirectly with woman. Probably the fact that he has always been a great seller since childhood is a possible indicator of being "natural". However, surely when I start with more "mass" approaches it will surely drop and I am curious to find out how much. Even if I will be in times when I stay with my "friends of bed" and I will not approach new women, I will engage in the forum to try to generate ideas and value.

For now nothing else comes to me and feel free to ask me questions about anything, and sorry if I don't use the forum well at first I will try to learn quickly, but I wanted to start right away. And sorry if I don't know a lot of community terms but I'm new, indeed if there was some sort of vocabulary to understand and consult on abbreviations and terms it would be great.

Now I will follow with 2 recent lays. One via dating app with direct appointment at home. And one that I think can be defined as semi hot? or semi-cold for those who like sweets. Followed by an older situation but which I would like to discuss which has not been concluded.

 

[DeepShadow]

1 lay girl from bumble.

I state that in all my life I have used dating apps for about 5 hours maybe. And I probably won't use them for a long time because even though I haven't had bad experiences I still prefer reality and should optimize photos etc where I don't feel like it.


I will put some part literal and some part I will describe it generally in order not to make the whole too long.

I signed up one afternoon on bumble I did a bit of a swipe and the next day I received an approach from this girl I took the whatsapp number and deleted the app after I was there. So now I'll start with whatsapp. On bumble the conversation lasted a few text exchanges and we immediately went to whatsapp.

We will call the girl Princess of Persia, you will understand why.

Me: The psychopaths on the stolen flying carpet ... An increasingly particular film

Princess of Persia: 1: ell I believe he was a psychopath or he was on drugs
2: Otherwise he wouldn't be flying with a carpet

Me: Are you saying aladdin was a junkie? Now my dog is traumatized ... she loved him

Princess of persia: 1:You think he wasn't?
2: I'm sorry for your dog

Io: Me too ... Yesterday they told me that Santa Claus does not exist today that Aladdin is a drug addict ... The only thing missing is that tomorrow you tell me that the stork does not bring children and women have sex to have children

then we continued flirting for a while and I discovered that he spoke Italian. I don't call her Princess of Persia only because of the Aladdin game which started with bumble but also because she is Persian.
I use the language excuse to get hooked on figuring out how long it was here in my country, but it was really just to understand the logistical situation. I live with a roommate but we have a rule that we can only bring the girls we fuck regularly.

However, it is a pity that now the covid is less tight and you can go out more, before the excuse was even better for direct appointments at home. But you can use it anyway. And in fact seeing how she reacted and the fact that she was here in Italy for 4 years but not so integrated. she is a very studious and hardworking girl she does not party crazy nightlife etc and therefore girls when they are relatively "new" in a country it is easier to do some things.

So I decide to aim for the direct date at home by building a little more rapport and doing something that I do quite often in general. Bringing the girls to be annoyed / react strongly or anyway some slight negative emotion. I don't know if it's something that actually pits me in the process or helps. But what I notice is that by bringing them close to the limit by making them also experience a spectrum of "negative" emotions, especially if after a while I know them and by resolving them by bringing them back up, I build a bond and trust much faster together with the attraction.

How did I apply it this time?
Meanwhile, I had already flirted, built rapport and set very polarized man-woman frames and told her she was a bad girl and she kept telling me how bad I was with a submissive voice and despite being positive I cemented my mind even more by saying that she was a bad one good, and that if he had to represent me with a feeling, "I'm like when you have sex and you feel a slight pain or discomfort but pleasant that makes you want more".

The technique I used after having already said to see us at home (I rented an airbnb). In the meantime she had some resistance as natural as it may be, as a first date, but beneath her hid only the insecurity that I had to fill.

And this is where the technique comes into play. I mixed it with giving information, that is, while I gave her information to reassure her that it was right, I generated the negative feeling that something was wrong, and then resolved it and set an even stronger frame of submission.

So I told her to see our instagram profiles to be safer. And here it starts, I follow her and she follows me, but I have the private account and I don't accept it, so she can't see me. Meanwhile, I continue to tease her on whatsapp and I see that she was harboring this thought. So he asks me why I don't accept her and I let him see her profile. So I keep straying up and not accepting it by saying things like you will unlock my live profile and other bullshit. Up to bring it to the edge. In the end, I unlock her profile and reassure her by saying that I had proposed her profile to her and she did not have to fear anything otherwise I would not have even mentioned it to her.

As I had anticipated from her, she was even more serene and she agreed to see us at home.

I choose an airbnb 5 minutes from his home. He couldn't from her because she too shared a house.

I was dressed in a fitted black cotton sweater with a breast pocket of the same fabric and a quality leather jacket. Black ripped jeans and black fabric belt. Black and white sneakers, similar to alexander mcqueen to understand.

She live face like the photos but better body and tall and proportionate as I like it. she said she was 175cm tall and she probably was. dressed all in black too. Lots of curly hair and porn secretary glasses. I must say that I had never had an experience with a shutter and I expected her to have a more beautiful face. Instead I would say a 7 in the face and an abundant 9 in the body. A thoroughbred mare. and I am very objective I am very difficult as an aesthetic (and it is something that I have to change at least a little and she was one of these because hindsight I have a small pool of women).

The appointment

I am writing to arrive a few minutes before arriving because especially if I go to get her you have to be down and wait for her, not me.

I arrive, park, I see her and we come in against it, I already like the look, I feel sex underneath. In front we stare at each other for a split second, we hug and we give each other two kisses not very far from the lips and between one kiss and the other I move slowly and we look intensely in the eyes.

I immediately break making her laugh with a bullshit and tell her to gallop in the car.

In the car, light chat, we park under the apartment. We head into the house arm in arm. She was in an apartment building. The host opens us immediately, I make him understand that I don't give a shit where the dishwasher tablet or other bullshit was and he goes away. However, a really nice house for a cost of 45 euros.

As soon as he leaves we were already very comfortable as a couple on vacation and after 5 minutes I kissed her but not too much, it took just 15 seconds to mark the territory and test the waters.

We immediately go out shopping for dinner, and since I had booked the house she offered to buy wine etc.

Let's go home, put the wine in the fridge and sit on the sofa. There is the sofa, the table in the center and the kitchen in the same room / living room. She finishes fixing and she joins me on the sofa 2 palms away from me. A little shy now, probably already inside her knows how it is going to end. I immediately tell her to come close to me that we are not strangers who have just met, she laughs and I make her put her legs on top of mine.

Let's start talking a little, deepen the conversation a little and start talking about some sexual topic in a soft and detached way. I see it much more melted and with the embers becoming hotter. I begin to kiss her slowly and make her want a little by making her chase. Girls always like to bite my lips when I play this game and also because they are plump.

I start kissing her a bit and I climb on top of her and while I kiss her I put my leg between her legs to stimulate her from the outside with my leg (girls to me when I do this have never resisted because it is not so common to resist or remove a leg from the vagina ).
I see her panting harder and harder than she is and I begin to undress her I take off her bra but she doesn't have much breasts, I don't care much I see it as the icing on the cake on a beautiful body. then I take off her pants and when I do she does a minimum of resistance, where I immediately go back, stop completely and talk again.

After a few minutes she tells me that she is going to the bathroom. I don't know if she stopped because she first wanted to clean up that she didn't have the time or she just wanted to slow down a little, or both.

Done she is as soon as she returns the load in my arms I carry her on the bed and from there 0 resistance and she ends the evening by having sex several times.

But she wasn't that great in bed so I didn't want to sleep and took her home.

he clearly wrote this just before seeing us. but the ending now we already know hahaha

Princess of Persia: Just to make it clear if I'm coming there it doesn't mean that we're going to have sex

ME: Of course I don't have sex with random people but only if I'm with a person ... I didn't even think about it and I'm glad you thought about it and told me

Princess of Persia: 1: Well
2: See you soon
3: When are you arriving?

While I was taking her home to the traffic lights she always wanted to kiss me but I always gave her little or nothing, pretending to play. When I accompanied her shortly after she wrote me if I had arrived home. I answered her I sent her some other positive emotions, thanked her but I will not want to see her again. I only like to see them again if the total experience is really good.

If you want to know more or give me some feedback, they are well received. Tomorrow or in the next few days as soon as I have time I write the other promised ones.

And always sorry for writing but english is not my language in the future i will try to improve and write even better but i'm in a hurry