Feeling “meh” with game… Thoughts?

[DoWhatWorks]

Don’t worry this isn’t me convincing myself that I’m going on a break like before lol.

Since last year been finding myself getting bored and more accurately disillusioned with game.

I’m not perfect by any means but I spent a lot of time on this & got “good” but I don’t enjoy or get as much fun from this as I used to.

I’ve tried:

1. Taking breaks to focus on other areas of my life

2. Only go out once every 1 to 2 weeks

This worked for a few months but the feeling has creeped back in.

I think it may be the fact I run very low maintenance FB rotations alongside new girls and I sub-consciously want an MLTR, maybe GF

But then one of the girls tries to get closer to me and I reject it as I don’t want the responsibility/extra drain on my time.

I’ve also slept with such a variety of girls for so long that I may have killed my ability for mono.

Meaning my only option is open relationships but I already run that with rotations so it means the best relationship model for me right now isn’t fulfilling.

For the older more advanced guys, what’re my options to enjoy it more?

Improve skill: Been working more at my 1st date lay process and out of my last 5 dates I’ve slept with 4 of them 1st time.

Improve quality: Girls have gotten hotter, more consistently my type (short, petite brunettes) and as I’ve matured they bend into my frame more too

Go out more: Don’t have the hunger or interest for it. Saying no to more wing invites these days and choosing sleep vs chasing lays

When I first started this would get me excited but now I shrug and think “so what?”

Going in circles because my sex drive makes me keep going else (I’ll go crazy) but honestly if I could take a natural antidote to stop wanting sex I would and spend the rest of my life working on business and hobbies being very content

Maybe it’s also the fact I’ve read so much material that even if I mess things up with a girl I can (by myself or with seducers I trust) work out why or bounce back quickly so that I’m not experiencing the “lows” of seduction that make it fun before

I don’t even experience the “highs” anymore…

Anyway rant over… Any ideas welcome

At this rate I may go back to my grandparents house in Africa and meditate in the mountains for some clarity… (Partly joking)

 

[Skills]

Do what you want, for me is more fun going out vs the alternatives......... So if you prefer staying home or _______ activity vs going out, do you....

Also is hard to eat food on a full stomach, if the girls are draining your balls it will kill your motivation.... And i warned you that after certain lay count monogamy is almost impossible....

I think you may be more of in the bd spectrum of pleasure of sex(hate the name) vs thrill of the hunt type.... And that is fine..

 

[Malboro]

The highs always come from growth so challenging yourself is where it's at.

For some day gamers this looks like going out into nightlife by yourself. Other guys who are more used to that could be challenged by taking steps to improve their day game like you've already done. Another option could be exploring social circles with the kinds of girls you find interesting.

Treat it like a sport.

 

[StrayDog]

I think it may be the fact I run very low maintenance FB rotations alongside new girls and I sub-consciously want an MLTR, maybe GF

But then one of the girls tries to get closer to me and I reject it as I don’t want the responsibility/extra drain on my time.

Have you considered challenging yourself with this? Picking the best possible option and really sticking with it despite your urges to drop it. Confronting whatever aspect of yourself that doesn't want the responsibility, and pushing yourself towards growing into a new sort of way of relating? If only just to see what the result is for yourself and your life.
No doubt it would be challenging, and you might have to confront some aspects of your character you wouldn't otherwise have to confront. You would have to have a sort of over arching vision of how you would want that sort of relationship in your life, if you are aiming for success. And of course it also may not work out in the end. But at least you would gain some perspective.

It could also take a moment for you to find the right gal to partner up with. Even deciding who it aught to be may take a bit of a leap. But at least you are a dude with a good deal of options.

I'm only putting this out there because its sounds like perhaps you are craving a bit more depth from your sex/love life. Maybe it would be a worthwhile experiment to get some answers for yourself. Of course it is not without risk though...

I really relate with your post here in that I am pretty bored with all the one night stands and fwbs. Getting pussy has become pretty rote and I am starting to wonder if I know how to generate a deeper relationship. It's like I am a bit spoiled on sex. I know I ultimately want a solid LTR, I just have trouble knowing which gal to do it with or how to really take that leap. While I really value and respect the gals I am seeing they just don't seem to do it for me in that way. But yeah, starting to get bored of the whole casual sex thing. So totally relate with your situation

 

[Warped Mindless]

If you are already getting laid plenty and have no problem getting women and you are bored with it… CONGRATULATIONS!

This means it is now time to move on with your life and get good at something else and find a new passion.

Becoming good with women is great but if thats all you ever accomplish in life, That’s pretty dull in my opinion. Get good with omen so you never have to settle and you always have the ability to have options and abundance, and then move on.

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Thanks for all your contributions. Given me food for thought.

Going to deploy some self awareness and make that the last type of post in this subject. Time for me to evolve.

Also is hard to eat food on a full stomach, if the girls are draining your balls it will kill your motivation.... And i warned you that after certain lay count monogamy is almost impossible....

All solid points

I think you may be more of in the bd spectrum of pleasure of sex(hate the name) vs thrill of the hunt type

Used to think I was 50/50 but this seems about right

Another option could be exploring social circles with the kinds of girls you find interesting.

Treat it like a sport.

This was helpful - one of the few times I get excited is meeting girls I genuinely find interesting but right now it's few & far between.

Maybe it would be a worthwhile experiment to get some answers for yourself. Of course it is not without risk though...

This is a good potential route for me to go down. Only had x2 serious LTR's so depth may be the way to go... Would be interesting to see the even better dynamic I set now with the experience I have

I really relate with your post here in that I am pretty bored with all the one night stands and fwbs.

Glad it's not just me lol

Becoming good with women is great but if thats all you ever accomplish in life, That’s pretty dull in my opinion.

Agreed. While you're here, I'll give a shameless request to see your v2 lifestyle promoting blog once it's written. Think it would add a lot of value

Get good with omen so you never have to settle and you always have the ability to have options and abundance, and then move on.

For sure - hasn't been time wasted by any means... May have to start a Do What Works profile on a forum like millionaire fast lane lol

 

[Swati]

Hey, man! I've gone through the epiphany of this phase too, and still am.

Having had legitimately the best in the game teach me, surrounded by motivated wings last year, going out alone at times, having no momentum, and dealing with the downs, etc, is a mix of emotions I think all of my wings have gone through as well.
When you have too much pussy, you tend to be repulsed by how sexualized everyone is and etc

Earlier in the year I'd become complacent with the amount of pussy, consistently releasing my seeds made me weak not being able to concentrate on other tasks at all. anyways but that's the trade-off of these sorts of things, in the long run, chasing pussy, drains you so I'm learning about how to channel my sexual drive into more productive things.

Being in the game consistently, learning materials, writing FR/LR brainstorming and comparing materials is a FULL-TIME job, I still remember my newbie years I was obsessed with this shit, going out here and there 5 days a week, stubborn as fuck trying to pull with my wing trying to game, good memories. As you become more experience, you have more calibration and could pick momentum easier, if learn/are taught correctly.

One phenomenon is I've noticed PUA/ wings turning toward trying to make it a business after the 5/6 year mark of being field all of a sudden want to be a coach but they aren't good, they have egos. I have no drive to make this monetary thing as I see seduction as an art that should only be taught by ONLY the BESTS in the league.

As for monogamy. Even if I really LIKED the girl, I can't help sometime to get some side pussy at times when I can, but the energy of that side pussy is just not that fun. maybe psychologically there's a block to me. mostly not for satisfaction, but for ego or abundance, so I won't fall into scarcity, and not give that much power for the girl to hurt me emotionally if they were to do it.

I'm no expert on how to balance life with seduction. Your message resonated with me and thought I share

 

[Chase]

@DoWhatWorks,

I've seen a lot of guys cycle all the way through PUA and stayed friends with them after they got out of it. Guys who get really good, hit their triple digit notch counts, then get totally bored of it and swivel to some other lifestyle. I talked about the different ones I've seen here:

What's the Endgame for a Playboy?

You won't stay young, wild, and energetic forever. So what happens to the old playboy when age catches up to him? Does he just fade away? Under my article "Male vs. Female Mating Motivations Laid Bare", a reader comments: hard question to ask, but it just seems having children or getting married...

www.girlschase.com

Sometimes guys pair up with an LTR and go monogamous... or mostly monogamous. It seems to depend a lot on the guy. I know multiple guys who went from big-time PUAs with high notch counts to settled family life. You don't hear about them in the PUA community because a guy doesn't really hang around and talk about that after he makes that switch. Instead you end up with survivorship bias, where the only older guys who are still around are the guys who are inclined toward perpetual bachelor-dom.

I think it may be the fact I run very low maintenance FB rotations alongside new girls and I sub-consciously want an MLTR, maybe GF

My personal solution to the energy drain from FWBs, plus other issues with them, is to not do FWBs:

Why I Quit Doing Friends with Benefits

Friends with benefits (FWB) is a fun, no-strings way to have sex. So why give it up? There are 6 good reasons to, including laziness, distraction, and getting stuck with the wrong girl. A little while back, I wrote a couple of posts on friends with benefits (FWB): The 4 Stages of Every Friends...

www.girlschase.com

If she's not super awesome amazing LTR supreme quality, she's ONS, with no in-between.

It certainly does good things for your drive/motivation and push to land the really excellent girls.

Depends on whether you're trying to get yourself to be hungry or if you like having the more relaxing, comfortable setup (FWBs definitely make things cozy and comfortable).

The other thing you can do to motivate yourself more is find missions that appeal to you. Just some examples:

• Lay a new girl every calendar week for NN weeks straight without missing a single one no matter what
• Get a flag from as many different countries as possible
• Pick up 2 girls for a cold approach threesome (do that? Now pick up 3 girls for a cold approach 4some!)
• Lay a new girl, then get into her social circle and sleep with 2 of her friends
• Shag a girl you meet in a shopping mall INSIDE the shopping mall / find a girl to shag in XYZ public place / etc.
• Pick up a girl driving a car (meet her at a stoplight/while you're at an intersection/etc.)
• Join the Mile High Club with a girl you met ON the airplane
• Etc.

Doesn't really matter what it is... just has to be something you think about and say, "Whoa, that would be pretty cool if I could do that. I'm really excited to try that one out! Haha, that would be so fun. All right, I am definitely doing that one." Then the game gets fun for you again.

Of course, ultimately there is this:

This means it is now time to move on with your life and get good at something else and find a new passion.

Very few guys are of the "I am only ever going to do this one thing my entire life, and just do it over and over and over again, forever," whether that one thing is pick up girls, play World of Warcraft, bulk up in the gym, play tennis, paint little metal Dungeons & Dragons figurines, or whatever it is.

There are some guys who are that way and will do the thing for absolutely ever.

Most guys however once they master a thing will reach a point where they've pretty much done what they needed to with it and move on.

Doesn't mean they'll never do it again ever. They just don't dump anywhere near the time into it they used to and it stops being as much of a focus for them as it once was. Something else then comes to the fore.

Life moves in stages...

Chase

 

[killerman]

@DoWhatWorks,

I've seen a lot of guys cycle all the way through PUA and stayed friends with them after they got out of it. Guys who get really good, hit their triple digit notch counts, then get totally bored of it and swivel to some other lifestyle. I talked about the different ones I've seen here:

What's the Endgame for a Playboy?

You won't stay young, wild, and energetic forever. So what happens to the old playboy when age catches up to him? Does he just fade away? Under my article "Male vs. Female Mating Motivations Laid Bare", a reader comments: hard question to ask, but it just seems having children or getting married...

www.girlschase.com

Sometimes guys pair up with an LTR and go monogamous... or mostly monogamous. It seems to depend a lot on the guy. I know multiple guys who went from big-time PUAs with high notch counts to settled family life. You don't hear about them in the PUA community because a guy doesn't really hang around and talk about that after he makes that switch. Instead you end up with survivorship bias, where the only older guys who are still around are the guys who are inclined toward perpetual bachelor-dom.



My personal solution to the energy drain from FWBs, plus other issues with them, is to not do FWBs:

Why I Quit Doing Friends with Benefits

Friends with benefits (FWB) is a fun, no-strings way to have sex. So why give it up? There are 6 good reasons to, including laziness, distraction, and getting stuck with the wrong girl. A little while back, I wrote a couple of posts on friends with benefits (FWB): The 4 Stages of Every Friends...

www.girlschase.com

If she's not super awesome amazing LTR supreme quality, she's ONS, with no in-between.

It certainly does good things for your drive/motivation and push to land the really excellent girls.

Depends on whether you're trying to get yourself to be hungry or if you like having the more relaxing, comfortable setup (FWBs definitely make things cozy and comfortable).

The other thing you can do to motivate yourself more is find missions that appeal to you. Just some examples:

• Lay a new girl every calendar week for NN weeks straight without missing a single one no matter what
• Get a flag from as many different countries as possible
• Pick up 2 girls for a cold approach threesome (do that? Now pick up 3 girls for a cold approach 4some!)
• Lay a new girl, then get into her social circle and sleep with 2 of her friends
• Shag a girl you meet in a shopping mall INSIDE the shopping mall / find a girl to shag in XYZ public place / etc.
• Pick up a girl driving a car (meet her at a stoplight/while you're at an intersection/etc.)
• Join the Mile High Club with a girl you met ON the airplane
• Etc.

Doesn't really matter what it is... just has to be something you think about and say, "Whoa, that would be pretty cool if I could do that. I'm really excited to try that one out! Haha, that would be so fun. All right, I am definitely doing that one." Then the game gets fun for you again.

Of course, ultimately there is this:



Very few guys are of the "I am only ever going to do this one thing my entire life, and just do it over and over and over again, forever," whether that one thing is pick up girls, play World of Warcraft, bulk up in the gym, play tennis, paint little metal Dungeons & Dragons figurines, or whatever it is.

There are some guys who are that way and will do the thing for absolutely ever.

Most guys however once they master a thing will reach a point where they've pretty much done what they needed to with it and move on.

Doesn't mean they'll never do it again ever. They just don't dump anywhere near the time into it they used to and it stops being as much of a focus for them as it once was. Something else then comes to the fore.

Life moves in stages...

Chase

Those are great goals. I've still got my world map (in my wardrobe somewhere where the chicks I sleep with can't find it haha). So far I've coloured 22 countries in (I THINK it's 22.) Got a hell of a lot of countries from Asia. It's a fun little thing and it always feels good to colour in a new country. Do you think it's possible to colour in every country? Would be cool to achieve that within my lifetime. Picking up a girl and shagging her in the shopping mall is pretty cool as well. But for me one if the most important ones is getting a threesome. Would be great if I could pull it off this year.

 

[killerman]

Don’t worry this isn’t me convincing myself that I’m going on a break like before lol.

Since last year been finding myself getting bored and more accurately disillusioned with game.

I’m not perfect by any means but I spent a lot of time on this & got “good” but I don’t enjoy or get as much fun from this as I used to.

I’ve tried:

1. Taking breaks to focus on other areas of my life

2. Only go out once every 1 to 2 weeks

This worked for a few months but the feeling has creeped back in.

I think it may be the fact I run very low maintenance FB rotations alongside new girls and I sub-consciously want an MLTR, maybe GF

But then one of the girls tries to get closer to me and I reject it as I don’t want the responsibility/extra drain on my time.

I’ve also slept with such a variety of girls for so long that I may have killed my ability for mono.

Meaning my only option is open relationships but I already run that with rotations so it means the best relationship model for me right now isn’t fulfilling.

For the older more advanced guys, what’re my options to enjoy it more?

Improve skill: Been working more at my 1st date lay process and out of my last 5 dates I’ve slept with 4 of them 1st time.

Improve quality: Girls have gotten hotter, more consistently my type (short, petite brunettes) and as I’ve matured they bend into my frame more too

Go out more: Don’t have the hunger or interest for it. Saying no to more wing invites these days and choosing sleep vs chasing lays

When I first started this would get me excited but now I shrug and think “so what?”

Going in circles because my sex drive makes me keep going else (I’ll go crazy) but honestly if I could take a natural antidote to stop wanting sex I would and spend the rest of my life working on business and hobbies being very content

Maybe it’s also the fact I’ve read so much material that even if I mess things up with a girl I can (by myself or with seducers I trust) work out why or bounce back quickly so that I’m not experiencing the “lows” of seduction that make it fun before

I don’t even experience the “highs” anymore…

Anyway rant over… Any ideas welcome

At this rate I may go back to my grandparents house in Africa and meditate in the mountains for some clarity… (Partly joking)

you say you have FB rotation girls. How do you manage to get a girl from FB? That's one thing I've never managed to do, got matches and lays from match.com, tinder, bumble, but never facebook.

 

[POB]

Yeah, I think it comes to a point where you become kinda of numb to pussy.
I say you should try:
- to go deeper into some kind of deviant sexual behavior you are curious about
- ditch FBs for a while, do ONSs only (not my cup of tea, but may work)
- go to a virtual detox retreat on your next vacation
- shag only mature women for while (over 30)...IME they are easier and less maintenance when already on your rotation (if you do it right)

 

[Warped Mindless]

@DoWhatWorks,

I've seen a lot of guys cycle all the way through PUA and stayed friends with them after they got out of it. Guys who get really good, hit their triple digit notch counts, then get totally bored of it and swivel to some other lifestyle. I talked about the different ones I've seen here:

What's the Endgame for a Playboy?

You won't stay young, wild, and energetic forever. So what happens to the old playboy when age catches up to him? Does he just fade away? Under my article "Male vs. Female Mating Motivations Laid Bare", a reader comments: hard question to ask, but it just seems having children or getting married...

www.girlschase.com

Sometimes guys pair up with an LTR and go monogamous... or mostly monogamous. It seems to depend a lot on the guy. I know multiple guys who went from big-time PUAs with high notch counts to settled family life. You don't hear about them in the PUA community because a guy doesn't really hang around and talk about that after he makes that switch. Instead you end up with survivorship bias, where the only older guys who are still around are the guys who are inclined toward perpetual bachelor-dom.



My personal solution to the energy drain from FWBs, plus other issues with them, is to not do FWBs:

Why I Quit Doing Friends with Benefits

Friends with benefits (FWB) is a fun, no-strings way to have sex. So why give it up? There are 6 good reasons to, including laziness, distraction, and getting stuck with the wrong girl. A little while back, I wrote a couple of posts on friends with benefits (FWB): The 4 Stages of Every Friends...

www.girlschase.com

If she's not super awesome amazing LTR supreme quality, she's ONS, with no in-between.

It certainly does good things for your drive/motivation and push to land the really excellent girls.

Depends on whether you're trying to get yourself to be hungry or if you like having the more relaxing, comfortable setup (FWBs definitely make things cozy and comfortable).

The other thing you can do to motivate yourself more is find missions that appeal to you. Just some examples:

• Lay a new girl every calendar week for NN weeks straight without missing a single one no matter what
• Get a flag from as many different countries as possible
• Pick up 2 girls for a cold approach threesome (do that? Now pick up 3 girls for a cold approach 4some!)
• Lay a new girl, then get into her social circle and sleep with 2 of her friends
• Shag a girl you meet in a shopping mall INSIDE the shopping mall / find a girl to shag in XYZ public place / etc.
• Pick up a girl driving a car (meet her at a stoplight/while you're at an intersection/etc.)
• Join the Mile High Club with a girl you met ON the airplane
• Etc.

Doesn't really matter what it is... just has to be something you think about and say, "Whoa, that would be pretty cool if I could do that. I'm really excited to try that one out! Haha, that would be so fun. All right, I am definitely doing that one." Then the game gets fun for you again.

Of course, ultimately there is this:



Very few guys are of the "I am only ever going to do this one thing my entire life, and just do it over and over and over again, forever," whether that one thing is pick up girls, play World of Warcraft, bulk up in the gym, play tennis, paint little metal Dungeons & Dragons figurines, or whatever it is.

There are some guys who are that way and will do the thing for absolutely ever.

Most guys however once they master a thing will reach a point where they've pretty much done what they needed to with it and move on.

Doesn't mean they'll never do it again ever. They just don't dump anywhere near the time into it they used to and it stops being as much of a focus for them as it once was. Something else then comes to the fore.

Life moves in stages...

Chase

100% agree.

I spent YEARS racking up lays and adventures and then took a five year “break” where I just had a main GF and a few FBs that I kept on the side for variety. I took that time to grow a new business and to become a competitive pistol shooter. Did very little cold approach during that time.

Funny thing is, I NEVER thought I’d really come back to this. Figured I just keep around a GF as long as I wanted her with a couple girls on the side and keep doing that for the rest of my life. But hey, I got to missing the fun and adventures I had from cold approach and going out and here I am doing those things again now. Funny how life works!

 

[Warped Mindless]

you say you have FB rotation girls. How do you manage to get a girl from FB? That's one thing I've never managed to do, got matches and lays from match.com, tinder, bumble, but never facebook.

Think he means Fuck Buddy and not Facebook.

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

For the older more advanced guys, what’re my options to enjoy it more?

IMO, You're at the end of the hedonic treadmill.

If you only value what a female brings to the table in terms of sex - then this is it. Getting more out of a woman really depends on seeing more in a woman. Most players don't. Most men that are capable of getting sex from multiple women are able to do so, precisely because they don't see her as more than a sexual object. It is what it is, no judgment. The best gold diggers don't see men as humans either. The best CEO's don't see workers as people. The best Generals don't see soldiers as living breathing human beings. ETC. This is the sort of stuff regular guys come across via pick up, but it's obviously not taught in broader society. I digress.

To keep it player, Obviously you can shoot for an over the top Hugh Hefner/Dan Bilzerian/"Sexual Celebrity" type lifestyle, but as many a rockstar will write in their memoirs - it gets old. Male Pornstars kill themselves. Guys that run brothels/cam studios/porn sites - want out.

The typical PUA guru then shifts towards business, then politics/creating a movement, and finally self development.

You'll find the same sort of boredom/ennui with successful entrepreneurs. They work a whole lot, get to the IPO, cash out, more money than they know what to do with, beach bum for a couple of months, and then get bored. Then they want to build something again.

 

[DoWhatWorks]

I've seen a lot of guys cycle all the way through PUA and stayed friends with them after they got out of it. Guys who get really good, hit their triple digit notch counts, then get totally bored of it and swivel to some other lifestyle. I talked about the different ones I've seen here:

What's the Endgame for a Playboy?

You won't stay young, wild, and energetic forever. So what happens to the old playboy when age catches up to him? Does he just fade away? Under my article "Male vs. Female Mating Motivations Laid Bare", a reader comments: hard question to ask, but it just seems having children or getting married...

www.girlschase.com

Thanks for the contributions @Chase I remember reading this article and finding it interesting. The "end game" is personal to the person but at least with competence you get to choose. The business person in the example is the path that most resonated with me.

• Lay a new girl every calendar week for NN weeks straight without missing a single one no matter what
• Get a flag from as many different countries as possible
• Pick up 2 girls for a cold approach threesome (do that? Now pick up 3 girls for a cold approach 4some!)
• Lay a new girl, then get into her social circle and sleep with 2 of her friends
• Shag a girl you meet in a shopping mall INSIDE the shopping mall / find a girl to shag in XYZ public place / etc.
• Pick up a girl driving a car (meet her at a stoplight/while you're at an intersection/etc.)
• Join the Mile High Club with a girl you met ON the airplane
• Etc.

These sound fun... The 3 girls from the same social circle was wildddddd

Fact that stuck out to me probably shows that I find the social skills more fun than the experience/hedonism.

Ultimately though I think this is me right now...

Most guys however once they master a thing will reach a point where they've pretty much done what they needed to with it and move on.

Doesn't mean they'll never do it again ever. They just don't dump anywhere near the time into it they used to and it stops being as much of a focus for them as it once was

Can see myself hitting it hard again in a few years.

If you only value what a female brings to the table in terms of sex - then this is it. Getting more out of a woman really depends on seeing more in a woman. Most players don't. Most men that are capable of getting sex from multiple women are able to do so, precisely because they don't see her as more than a sexual object. It is what it is, no judgment.

Excellent point. I actually leaned a lot more sentimental when I started this journey but this is definitely me now lol

Aside from (some girls) being inspiring with their femininity in a way similar to art - girls don't bring me anything that I couldn't do myself or with male friends to a higher standard.

Maybe getting my lifestyle to a place where I'm dating girls from other countries/cultures (I.E not West) would help. Just find all these girls dress the same, think the same, talk the same and ironically all think they're so different but I digress that's just people in general.

You'll find the same sort of boredom/ennui with successful entrepreneurs. They work a whole lot, get to the IPO, cash out, more money than they know what to do with, beach bum for a couple of months, and then get bored. Then they want to build something again.

This is what's next for me. Think everyone has to experience it for themselves.

If I went back to younger me and told him you'd be feeling this way, I'd call BS and not believe it

to go deeper into some kind of deviant sexual behavior you are curious about

Another thing that's sprung up as an idea in my mind. Think the full blown D/s dynamic would be fun to dive into

- go to a virtual detox retreat on your next vacation

I like this too

 

[StrayDog]

Aside from (some girls) being inspiring with their femininity in a way similar to art - girls don't bring me anything that I couldn't do myself or with male friends to a higher standard

the only real exception being a gal who is a solid partner to raise kids with.

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

Don’t worry this isn’t me convincing myself that I’m going on a break like before lol.

Since last year been finding myself getting bored and more accurately disillusioned with game.

I’m not perfect by any means but I spent a lot of time on this & got “good” but I don’t enjoy or get as much fun from this as I used to.

I’ve tried:

1. Taking breaks to focus on other areas of my life

2. Only go out once every 1 to 2 weeks

This worked for a few months but the feeling has creeped back in.

I think it may be the fact I run very low maintenance FB rotations alongside new girls and I sub-consciously want an MLTR, maybe GF

But then one of the girls tries to get closer to me and I reject it as I don’t want the responsibility/extra drain on my time.

I’ve also slept with such a variety of girls for so long that I may have killed my ability for mono.

Meaning my only option is open relationships but I already run that with rotations so it means the best relationship model for me right now isn’t fulfilling.

For the older more advanced guys, what’re my options to enjoy it more?

Improve skill: Been working more at my 1st date lay process and out of my last 5 dates I’ve slept with 4 of them 1st time.

Improve quality: Girls have gotten hotter, more consistently my type (short, petite brunettes) and as I’ve matured they bend into my frame more too

Go out more: Don’t have the hunger or interest for it. Saying no to more wing invites these days and choosing sleep vs chasing lays

When I first started this would get me excited but now I shrug and think “so what?”

Going in circles because my sex drive makes me keep going else (I’ll go crazy) but honestly if I could take a natural antidote to stop wanting sex I would and spend the rest of my life working on business and hobbies being very content

Maybe it’s also the fact I’ve read so much material that even if I mess things up with a girl I can (by myself or with seducers I trust) work out why or bounce back quickly so that I’m not experiencing the “lows” of seduction that make it fun before

I don’t even experience the “highs” anymore…

Anyway rant over… Any ideas welcome

At this rate I may go back to my grandparents house in Africa and meditate in the mountains for some clarity… (Partly joking)

Ah should find my previous threads, Im in a similar situation of growing up but I was forced into it. You are like a young kid at the swimming pool who doesn’t want to go into the cold water.

I’ve been musing hosting some dinner parties lately and I also have kids on the mind. Start asking the women you are seeing what they would name their kids and take it from there.

Cheers
MustO