Feeling "pressured" having to approach chicks going different ways than me...is there a smoother way?

[Chad Tyrone]

So I've been approaching for years now... mostly chicks we are headed the same direction...can get them hooked...can easily swap numbers with them...can easily invite them home and have them come with me all the way to my bed...

Don't think I have any issue with the phases of seducing a chick

All in all,I went off setting different goals for myself tho...wanna inject some variation in my approach.

Never thought of approaching chicks headed different directions as I am ...so today I went approaching... literally passed three pretty chicks partly because the were headed elsewhere

Hate it that they were checking me out and I failed to go after them.I mean the first one I saw checked me out and I forged on regardless....by and by I'm realizing that a chick in the now is better than one you'll seek out later...I mean most people may postpone selling a business hoping to rake in more cash later on only to realize that the paper value of their business has dropped years down the line as an example...Most may appreciate most may depreciate.Seen some recommend having money that u can get here in the now is way better than one you'll have to wait for in the future considering market changes and stuff.Anyway...

I realized it's better to approach a chick u are seeing in the moment rather than postponing saying u r scouting out.So back to my story,I go on and beat myself up promising myself to go after a chick headed another direction If she checks me out

Talked myself out of it again.Silly me .I bet it has nothing to do with approach anxiety ...don't have any...Bet it comes down to a want of approaching in a smoother way that won't come across as chasing her.

Ofcourse my fundamentals are great...don't think most will care that I passed them then went after them again...I only want a smooth way to do so...much like approaching her from the side and pre-opening her if we are headed the same direction or do the natural number swapping thing that @Chase once talked of way back.I usually talk myself out of that I dunno why...I mean I feel too much pressure having to stop a chick head-on and getting past small talk easily

Yet I can get past small talk if we are headed the same direction...have had chicks saying they have never had such amazing conversations their lifetime...guess I'm that good a conversationalist.

So my questions are should I do the number swapping next time ...tho I prefer having a somewhat deep Convo before having her number or should I just turn around regardless and go after them anyway while making it as effortless as possible...

Then what do u do with chicks u have known before...closed on them maybe...but it was one-stand-ish...how do u greet them and have a conversation that ain't that awkward... really hate small talk...awkward in the sense that u r passing each other but u don't want to come across as if u r brushing her off...I mean how do u let go of that pressure when meeting people going different ways.Thats all

~Chad Tyrone

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

So I've been approaching for years now... mostly chicks we are headed the same direction...can get them hooked...can easily swap numbers with them...can easily invite them home and have them come with me all the way to my bed...

Don't think I have any issue with the phases of seducing a chick

All in all,I went off setting different goals for myself tho...wanna inject some variation in my approach.

Never thought of approaching chicks headed different directions as I am ...so today I went approaching... literally passed three pretty chicks partly because the were headed elsewhere

Hate it that they were checking me out and I failed to go after them.I mean the first one I saw checked me out and I forged on regardless....by and by I'm realizing that a chick in the now is better than one you'll seek out later...I mean most people may postpone selling a business hoping to rake in more cash later on only to realize that the paper value of their business has dropped years down the line as an example...Most may appreciate most may depreciate.Seen some recommend having money that u can get here in the now is way better than one you'll have to wait for in the future considering market changes and stuff.Anyway...

I realized it's better to approach a chick u are seeing in the moment rather than postponing saying u r scouting out.So back to my story,I go on and beat myself up promising myself to go after a chick headed another direction If she checks me out

Talked myself out of it again.Silly me .I bet it has nothing to do with approach anxiety ...don't have any...Bet it comes down to a want of approaching in a smoother way that won't come across as chasing her.

Ofcourse my fundamentals are great...don't think most will care that I passed them then went after them again...I only want a smooth way to do so...much like approaching her from the side and pre-opening her if we are headed the same direction or do the natural number swapping thing that @Chase once talked of way back.I usually talk myself out of that I dunno why...I mean I feel too much pressure having to stop a chick head-on and getting past small talk easily

Yet I can get past small talk if we are headed the same direction...have had chicks saying they have never had such amazing conversations their lifetime...guess I'm that good a conversationalist.

So my questions are should I do the number swapping next time ...tho I prefer having a somewhat deep Convo before having her number or should I just turn around regardless and go after them anyway while making it as effortless as possible...

Then what do u do with chicks u have known before...closed on them maybe...but it was one-stand-ish...how do u greet them and have a conversation that ain't that awkward... really hate small talk...awkward in the sense that u r passing each other but u don't want to come across as if u r brushing her off...I mean how do u let go of that pressure when meeting people going different ways.Thats all

~Chad Tyrone

The biggest issue for me with approaching a girl on the street is her not noticing you.

In your case, they're even checking you out which is great. You run the exact same game you would if it was the same direction

With few differences:

- making strong eye contact and slowing down... letting her know you want to talk

- you can also add a time constraint so she is more inclined to stop

- if she doesn't stop (rarely happens), you can take only a few steps with her in her direction while bantering etc... building social frames THEN you ask her to stop


Having said that, I'm curious to know your: 1) conversation starters when you meet on the street, 2) how you hook and 3)what your phases of seduction are for: (number closing, insta dates and straight to your house)

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

You can also check out street stop articles (meeting smooth) on the site by Bacchus

 

[Beck Bass]

It's all in our heads, @Chad Tyrone. There's nothing wrong with stop to talk to a girl that wants your attention. Worst thing that can happen is she doesn't wanna talk, so you just excuse yourself graciously and move on. But our social programming fucks us up, believing we are doing something wrong. You gotta forge ahead.

making strong eye contact and slowing down... letting her know you want to talk

This. Makes a lot of sense. But you do have to approach then, if she stops for you.

Having said that, I'm curious to know your: 1) conversation starters when you meet on the street, 2) how you hook and 3)what your phases of seduction are for: (number closing, insta dates and straight to your house)

Would like that too, my daygame is like... zero lol

 

[Skills]

You can say the one i use in this situations when they are on the phone "be carefull walking and talking on the phone cause you may run into 6 feet of love"

Or you can try tp force eye contact and say how your going to look at me like tgat and no say hi

Or go direct in this situaton just saw you pass by and i dont usually do this but i had you are just my style/type had to come say hi introduce myself see if your looks match your perspnality i am tyronne... when they are walking short window of time i dont mind going direct...

You can also make her stop sayong hold hold on and going up to her pre open

 

[Chad Tyrone]

The biggest issue for me with approaching a girl on the street is her not noticing you.

In your case, they're even checking you out which is great. You run the exact same game you would if it was the same direction

With few differences:

- making strong eye contact and slowing down... letting her know you want to talk

- you can also add a time constraint so she is more inclined to stop

- if she doesn't stop (rarely happens), you can take only a few steps with her in her direction while bantering etc... building social frames THEN you ask her to stop


Having said that, I'm curious to know your: 1) conversation starters when you meet on the street, 2) how you hook and 3)what your phases of seduction are for: (number closing, insta dates and straight to your house)

Guess them noticing you comes down to ur fundamentals and how you come across...how sexy your walk is ...how edgy you look from the guys around... pretty much how you differentiate yourself

Letting her know I want to talk sounds off to me.i mean duhshe knows I want to talk to her .. I'm not asking for permission or a guarantee...no thanks

With the time constraint one again it doesn't lessen the pressure...makes me wanna rush things off ...wanna come across as smooth and slow ...not rushing...again good advice I want a smoother way way that will easen the pressure on me

If she's receptive maybe option three is okay...get her complying maybe ...see if she's worth it.

Well my conversation starters are pretty normal... compliment her on her hair,walk, style... anything she worked on to come across attractive...they also may be situational...all I care about is getting to know her honestly...get past the opening phase easily as for hook point ... there a lot of articles on gc...read them like 5 years back...I'm at a point now where game is me.... again I'll recommend an indepth look into gc ...videos over gc tv also...whether premium or free

Never instadated ... would say I've met chicks later on the day if we had met before...say morning hours and pulled later on...most straight pulls I did ended up in mere finger bangs...was young then...I'm honing in on straight pulling with minimal or no resistance lately

I'm all about shortening the process from meet to lay more and more... can hardly pull that off of day game...most chicks aren't that primed for a sexual encounter ... anyway that's all I could say

Was shooting in the dark looking back...had the fundamentals and game but no goals nor process...but I got all that handled now...goals and a process to get them chicks...pulled some chicks fast enough lately.Meeting more...

By and large u should be moving fast, staying out of bf zone, building up enough sexual tension,set them frames,smooth transition,address objections and u can get most chicks

What's ur sticking point if I may ask...do u fail to hook more...is it the commitment point?...how many chicks get sold on you?

 

[Chad Tyrone]

It's all in our heads, @Chad Tyrone. There's nothing wrong with stop to talk to a girl that wants your attention. Worst thing that can happen is she doesn't wanna talk, so you just excuse yourself graciously and move on. But our social programming fucks us up, believing we are doing something wrong. You gotta forge ahead.

Yeah I guess the pressure comes down to feeling I'm doing something wrong in stopping her or I'm wasting her time...maybe should be doing street stops then ...alert them before they get past me...yeah that may be the best

If she stops...I may turn around or pick her number...forging on regardless...tho depends if I'm in a rush to someplace

Would like that too, my daygame is like... zero

Question where u r loosing most chicks...is it the preapproach phase where there are throwing signals ur way but u aren't picking up or acting on them...is it the opening phase ...maybe u r coming In too strong...ur opener is rushed...on to the hook point...do they seem to want to get past the small talk ...want the interaction to go on...are they moving somewhere with you...to the commitment phase... are they focused on you now...are they talking more about themselves... ignoring her friends or the people around...are you in a bubble where it is only the two of you... forward towards on wanting to "buy"...are they thinking or considering going home with you or you to theirs...then the "sold" phase...they should be ready to get isolated and cap the interaction... consummate it...that's all you should focus on

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Guess them noticing you comes down to ur fundamentals and how you come across...how sexy your walk is ...how edgy you look from the guys around... pretty much how you differentiate yourself

Letting her know I want to talk sounds off to me.i mean duhshe knows I want to talk to her .. I'm not asking for permission or a guarantee...no thanks

With the time constraint one again it doesn't lessen the pressure...makes me wanna rush things off ...wanna come across as smooth and slow ...not rushing...again good advice I want a smoother way way that will easen the pressure on me

If she's receptive maybe option three is okay...get her complying maybe ...see if she's worth it.

Well my conversation starters are pretty normal... compliment her on her hair,walk, style... anything she worked on to come across attractive...they also may be situational...all I care about is getting to know her honestly...get past the opening phase easily as for hook point ... there a lot of articles on gc...read them like 5 years back...I'm at a point now where game is me.... again I'll recommend an indepth look into gc ...videos over gc tv also...whether premium or free

Never instadated ... would say I've met chicks later on the day if we had met before...say morning hours and pulled later on...most straight pulls I did ended up in mere finger bangs...was young then...I'm honing in on straight pulling with minimal or no resistance lately

I'm all about shortening the process from meet to lay more and more... can hardly pull that off of day game...most chicks aren't that primed for a sexual encounter ... anyway that's all I could say

Was shooting in the dark looking back...had the fundamentals and game but no goals nor process...but I got all that handled now...goals and a process to get them chicks...pulled some chicks fast enough lately.Meeting more...

By and large u should be moving fast, staying out of bf zone, building up enough sexual tension,set them frames,smooth transition,address objections and u can get most chicks

What's ur sticking point if I may ask...do u fail to hook more...is it the commitment point?...how many chicks get sold on you?

Oh my bad. By "letting her know you want to talk" i meant that's what slowing down will accomplish. By slowing down your step gradually to halt plus your strong eye contact she gets the idea you want to talk

Well time constraints are best suited for girls who don't really notice you or aren't checking you out. And also when you're certain it's going to be a brief interaction.
Even at that you never really follow through on it. You'll almost always end up talking way longer if she's feeling your vibe


Nice... i like the conversation starters. Yh that's what i mean... getting to know (basically past the opening phase) any tips on transitions or things you do to get to know her a bit more? (Rapport & banter building)

Same I'm trying to find a way to shorten my meet to lay from day game.

When you said you're a good conversationalist and girls enjoy having conversations with you.. what do you tend to talk about and how do you handle it? Also, are there any resources or materials. Btw I'm referring to day game here



Well moving fast is pretty obvious. Besides flirting, sexualization... anything else you do to stay out bf zone?
And what are your favourite ways to set sexual frames especially early on in the interaction before you get her number

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Yeah I guess the pressure comes down to feeling I'm doing something wrong in stopping her or I'm wasting her time...maybe should be doing street stops then ...alert them before they get past me...yeah that may be the best

If she stops...I may turn around or pick her number...forging on regardless...tho depends if I'm in a rush to someplace

Question where u r loosing most chicks...is it the preapproach phase where there are throwing signals ur way but u aren't picking up or acting on them...is it the opening phase ...maybe u r coming In too strong...ur opener is rushed...on to the hook point...do they seem to want to get past the small talk ...want the interaction to go on...are they moving somewhere with you...to the commitment phase... are they focused on you now...are they talking more about themselves... ignoring her friends or the people around...are you in a bubble where it is only the two of you... forward towards on wanting to "buy"...are they thinking or considering going home with you or you to theirs...then the "sold" phase...they should be ready to get isolated and cap the interaction... consummate it...that's all you should focus on

You seem to have your own idea of the different phases.

Nice
Would be cool if you could break it down in a separate post. Thanks

 

[Chad Tyrone]

You can say the one i use in this situations when they are on the phone "be carefull walking and talking on the phone cause you may run into 6 feet of love"

Or you can try tp force eye contact and say how your going to look at me like tgat and no say hi

Or go direct in this situaton just saw you pass by and i dont usually do this but i had you are just my style/type had to come say hi introduce myself see if your looks match your perspnality i am tyronne... when they are walking short window of time i dont mind going direct...

You can also make her stop sayong hold hold on and going up to her pre open

The last option seems okay ...I mean I can always turn around and walk towards her... telling her to hold on puts pressure on one to come up with great an opener...what's ur take? Anyway I bet most chicks will cut u the slack if you got ur fundamentals down to a T and come across that dominant enough to have her stop and wait for you as you walk to her... slowly smiling then opening...that's good actually


"Your looks match ur personality" may hurt my attainability with some...maybe she's low on self esteem...

"How u gonna look at me and not say hi" sounds cocky enough

I don't approach chicks on the phone or in deep convos with their friends.

Again appreciate it

 

[Chad Tyrone]

Oh my bad. By "letting her know you want to talk" i meant that's what slowing down will accomplish. By slowing down your step gradually to halt plus your strong eye contact she gets the idea you want to talk

Well time constraints are best suited for girls who don't really notice you or aren't checking you out. And also when you're certain it's going to be a brief interaction.
Even at that you never really follow through on it. You'll almost always end up talking way longer if she's feeling your vibe


Nice... i like the conversation starters. Yh that's what i mean... getting to know (basically past the opening phase) any tips on transitions or things you do to get to know her a bit more? (Rapport & banter building)

Same I'm trying to find a way to shorten my meet to lay from day game.

When you said you're a good conversationalist and girls enjoy having conversations with you.. what do you tend to talk about and how do you handle it? Also, are there any resources or materials. Btw I'm referring to day game here



Well moving fast is pretty obvious. Besides flirting, sexualization... anything else you do to stay out bf zone?
And what are your favourite ways to set sexual frames especially early on in the interaction before you get her number

I guess street stops work better than the time constraints...I mean these are all great options... Tho I guess asking her where she's headed to is better...if she's late for work swap nos...if she's headed towards a grocery store...go with her ...so bet a street stop+ where u headed to makes it more easier...

The pressure seems to come around If u don't know what she's up to now as I look at it.

With conversation topics...I'm on autopilot usually.But most common topics would be what's her major, what does she do,what she finds interesting... basically any topic that moves the interaction forward...that revolves around her emotionally...with time u do it naturally

I could recommend reading more books...just showing that u r conversant with a topic ups ur similarity and puts u way ahead of many people.Could easily relate with accountants,lawyers, engineers...u name it ...just because I have interacted with some before or read books on the subject.

Also get to know what made her do a certain things...her "why" behind her something...the more she opens up about it while u actively listen the more she feels similar and connected to you.

Sexual frames early on depends on ur personality but what works with many chicks is saving those for later.Guess if u r sexy or edgy enough she can pick up on you being sexual.Your eye contact... building sexual tension with her .

Gauging her reaction towards touchy topics or risque dialogue should determine how early u can set sexual frames as u get to know her.Your vibe is also everything u may disqualify yourself as a bf ...yet come across as one...a casual vibe is congruent with the lover image

 

[Chad Tyrone]

You seem to have your own idea of the different phases.

Nice
Would be cool if you could break it down in a separate post. Thanks

Will get around to doing that.Maybe put up reports

 

[Chad Tyrone]

So I've been approaching for years now... mostly chicks we are headed the same direction...can get them hooked...can easily swap numbers with them...can easily invite them home and have them come with me all the way to my bed...

Don't think I have any issue with the phases of seducing a chick

All in all,I went off setting different goals for myself tho...wanna inject some variation in my approach.

Never thought of approaching chicks headed different directions as I am ...so today I went approaching... literally passed three pretty chicks partly because the were headed elsewhere

Hate it that they were checking me out and I failed to go after them.I mean the first one I saw checked me out and I forged on regardless....by and by I'm realizing that a chick in the now is better than one you'll seek out later...I mean most people may postpone selling a business hoping to rake in more cash later on only to realize that the paper value of their business has dropped years down the line as an example...Most may appreciate most may depreciate.Seen some recommend having money that u can get here in the now is way better than one you'll have to wait for in the future considering market changes and stuff.Anyway...

I realized it's better to approach a chick u are seeing in the moment rather than postponing saying u r scouting out.So back to my story,I go on and beat myself up promising myself to go after a chick headed another direction If she checks me out

Talked myself out of it again.Silly me .I bet it has nothing to do with approach anxiety ...don't have any...Bet it comes down to a want of approaching in a smoother way that won't come across as chasing her.

Ofcourse my fundamentals are great...don't think most will care that I passed them then went after them again...I only want a smooth way to do so...much like approaching her from the side and pre-opening her if we are headed the same direction or do the natural number swapping thing that @Chase once talked of way back.I usually talk myself out of that I dunno why...I mean I feel too much pressure having to stop a chick head-on and getting past small talk easily

Yet I can get past small talk if we are headed the same direction...have had chicks saying they have never had such amazing conversations their lifetime...guess I'm that good a conversationalist.

So my questions are should I do the number swapping next time ...tho I prefer having a somewhat deep Convo before having her number or should I just turn around regardless and go after them anyway while making it as effortless as possible...

Then what do u do with chicks u have known before...closed on them maybe...but it was one-stand-ish...how do u greet them and have a conversation that ain't that awkward... really hate small talk...awkward in the sense that u r passing each other but u don't want to come across as if u r brushing her off...I mean how do u let go of that pressure when meeting people going different ways.Thats all

~Chad Tyrone

Just reread the street stop article...glad Chase covered everything i was asking about Pretty much what we have agreed on already...read that article way back...time the stops come into play.Will test out how many chicks show up after such brief an encounter ... wave one may work for me