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Fiance's old friend likes to bring up politics and drag me into conversations trying to get me to agree. What do I do?

Jensen

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Fiance's friend comes to my house. She's huge into 'woke' stuff, and I used to be as well(which is why I never spent much time on this site until this week), but things over the months have had an effect on me to make me change my outlook. Things haven't been working out for me like I thought they would.

Anyway, my fiance hasn't seen her since January. We mostly avoid politics and I'm having a decent time. Sexism is brought up a couple of times and, for the sake of peace, I bend over backwards to agree and show that I too am not sexist. We go out and I buy everyone dinner.


Immediately after dinne we go back to my and my partners house, Trump gets brought up. She goes on a rant and I listen without arguing. I am huge into socialism, but listening to her, I discover that we're not ready for socialism, we don't need bernie, we need Joe Biden first, and that his rape allegation is actually a conspiracy. I try to sprinkle in my responses and she's finishing sentences for me multiple times.
Finally, I get a moment and try to explain why I hate Joe Biden and didn't vote for him. My plan was to meander my way through a little bit of Marxist theory to arrive at the conclusion that Joe is better than Trump but still horrible.


After 10 seconds of me explaining my opinions I bring in the one definition from Marxism that I need, I get interrupted with "I don't need you to mansplain me." I'm pretty appalled by this and fire back with, "Look if that's mansplaining to you then I just won't explain anything." Then it goes from 0 to 100 I'm called rude and that I don't care about how I've hurt her feelings. I try to get a word in and am told to stop interrupting. I realize this isn't salvageable and I'm like yeah I'm done and I go upstairs. After a few minutes, I go downstairs and apologize so it doesn't make it weird between my fiance and her (she does apologize back to be fair, but I don't know if I would have gotten that if I didn't initiate it), but she leaves anyway.

I think there will still be some lasting bitterness from her part. What should I do to make amends so that things aren't weird between us and so my fiancee can have a good relationship with her without me dragging it down? I don't want to be the asshole to ruin everything.
 
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Fluxcapacitor

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@Jensen dude! I'm at work and don't have the time to cover everything wrong with this but your mental model is all wrong, you've made a lot of mistakes and you're asking the wrong question.

You said you're not woke anymore but you still are, you haven't escaped this yet and you're possibly a little too domesticated and you won't like what I'm going to say.

There's a few articles you need to read

Should you apologise to girls
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIBBAC&usg=AOvVaw0tpY2Z_DJMiwvAs2PydihE

Is it okay to date a feminist/when girl's bring up feminism/women love sexist men
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https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjACegQICBAB&usg=AOvVaw1st50jRK0MjyE7_EK0-QWP

What your girls friends say about her
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How to be an asshole/become a loveable dick
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...FjAAegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw3BMtnnSFek35qDaI9fLbX4

Don't bend over backwards and agree!

Don't pay for everyone (see above)

You tried to justify your vote but qualified against your own decision? Then she caused drama for no reason and you enabled the chaos (see below)

You then got emotional and lashed out so you looked out of control. You then walked away in your own house submitting to her even further, then apologised for your actions because?? What the actual fuck?

Your fiance would have wanted her girl friend to fuck her more than you that night....
 

Mike Silvertree

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Woke people suck. So much that they annoy a Socialist.

I remember a time when it was impolite to bring up politics or religion at a social event.

Tell your girlfriend not to bring her along again. Life is too short to put up with annoying people.
 
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