Fighting Limiting Beliefs and Social-Conditioning

[Astigmatic20]

I recently had a long argument with a friend of mine regarding dating & relationships. He knows that I'm into Game and Daygame Adventures and asked me why I started out doing it.

Let me admit that I'm a total newbie as regards to dating in general as in I never had a girlfriend, been kissed, and still a virgin. He advised me to start out with my social circle and learn from dating in that sphere of my social life so I'll get good with girls. He also told me that I'm like driving a car without any prior training and social circle relationships is basically driving school. I told him that I'm pushing my boundaries and doing stuff that an average guy wouldn't have the balls to do, especially in this country. He told me it was a fruitless endeavour since he knows my rookie mindset & behavior adding to the fact that I have sexual anxiety. It's best that I stick with my social circle and not waste my time & effort...you can't learn Game since some people are just lucky in being good at it.

He basically tells me of the same social-conditioning BS I grew tired of hearing over and over again throughout my life:

- "It's not normal! All girls would be uncomfortable when being hit on by a random guy in the street/mall/etc."
- "There are girls out of your league! You have attain status/money in order to get them."
- "I have friends who read 'The Game' and tried to get into PUA but he's still a virgin after 4 years! I know those PUA groups and they don't have results at all!"
- "The street isn't the place to meet girls. They can only be found in bars & nightclubs and you need alcohol to get them into bed!"
- "Impress them with White Lies! Being honest will kill attraction with women."
- "Those stuff you learn in the internet won't work in this country! Only Western Girls fall for them."
- "Work hard for the girl! The more you invest in treating her as a gentleman, the more she'll fall for you."
- "You can't have sex with high status (chaste) girls who you want LTRs with, especially the virgins and those of high status. It's disgusting to think that you want to fuck them!"

And the main point he tried to drive home in my mind so he can change my mind of this Seduction Community stuff:
- "Why do Seduction? You'll just have a hard time! Just stick with your social circle and be yourself and you'll find a girlfriend."

Well, I'm stubborn and choose to think differently of what society expects me to be. I'm well aware of my goals in doing Game.

My long-term goal is to live in total abundance without fear and have a big social circle while accepting who I am, being honest with my beliefs, and being convicted in my actions. That's why I don't do routine Game.
My short-term goal is to pick up any girl I want, anywhere, at anytime...NO ALCOHOL/STATUS/MONEY/FAME/LOOKS/HEIGHT/RACE needed.

If I hadn't discovered the community and delved into the wealth of theory it had, I wouldn't have fixed my inner game and I'd go on throughout my life being a lost chode

Sorry for the long post guys but bear with me, I'm experiencing my "pain period". I've been getting a few NCs as well as a big flake ratio. I'm battling my insecurities and literally neither my friends nor some of my family members believe that doing Game will be good for me. The only thing going for me is my belief and persistence that Game will change my life forever.

Recently, I found other PUA groups and showed me that there is hope for the Game. It will be a long & rough road for me but at least I met others who swallowed their red pill to find truth...

Any thoughts on his argument and my predicament guys?

 

[Nuncle]

Sounds like you already know what to do.

Close your ears, put your head down and carry on.

See this friend less in case he talks you out of it.

Your instincts are correct, as instincts usually are. The advice you are getting is actually all about them not you.

You can always tell when advice has a hidden agenda if :

1) You haven't asked for it.
2) What you do doesn't materially affect them.
3) They go overboard in trying to persuade you - go on about it all the time in a forceful manner. Fair enough if they just say "Well personally I wouldn't because of a) and b)" then drop it. But if they're investing a lot of time and effort in trying to stop you, you've got to wonder why.

Good luck.

 

[PrettyDecent]

Hey Astigmatic20,

Telling people anything 'self-improvement' related is bound to get resistance. I have a policy of telling no one I know reasonably well that I game. People have a preconception of PUA that carries a ton of baggage, and as long as you know that you'll find success, that's all that really matters. Resist the urge to tell people these things and use that enthusiasm of improving your life to talk to girls.

Jake

 

[Franco]

Astigmatic,

You have good advice from PrettyDecent and Nuncle.

When I started this stuff, I didn't really share it with many of my friends because I knew it would get flak. However, I also knew I didn't need to share it with my friends because I believed so strongly in Chase's material that I didn't need reassurance from friends who I knew for a fact had no idea what they were talking about when it came to women, even the ones who had what I now call "moderate" success with women.

Ironically, 14-15 months later with a new and improved 'me,' these are all the guys who are now asking me about my current girl, how I picked her up by myself at a bar, and how a girl as gorgeous and awesome as her is still chasing me. So I would take Nuncle's advice and...

Close your ears, put your head down and carry on.

You are your own boss.

- Franco