Socializing Fine line between moving fast and needieness???

[cassanova]

So it is critical that one MUST move fast when meeting a new girl, however where is the fine line between that and being needy? doesn't true attraction take time to build or does that vary based on the girl? I had a buddy that lived in France for a number of years that was amazing with girls and the thing I noticed him do with girls he would meet was do the opposite of what the average dude would do (he had an aura of mystery, charm and aggression, humility plus his accent and looks helped as well as the fact that he was originally from a country off the coast of West Africa) when it came to making out or sex he would wait to the point where the female is just itching to kiss him or be taken to bed--and that would vary. One thing he told me was to remember that seduction takes time but to gauge the females interest level in order to make a move on her at the right time. I understood this but when I tried it out the girls would be digging me yet I would NOT see that look of desire in their eyes (only from the girls I don't find attractive)

 

[ray_zorse]

IMO moving fast and neediness are two different issues, so I wouldn't worry too much about finding an answer here. You can move fast in a needy or non-needy way. You can be needy and move fast or slow. Whatever. Also I suggest you do not compare yourself to a natural, he is doing a lot of shit to get girls attracted that he probably isn't even aware of. When you get to his level, by all means walk the tightrope of drawing things out to ramp up your mystery and her level of attraction, excitement and involvement. But for where things stand right now (based on previous post in this section) that's so far from being an issue it's not funny. A better way to do this is to take advice from people like Chase, Franco, Drexel (on advanced game), Bboy100 or myself or other forum members (on beginner to intermediate game). The reason for this is that none of us were naturals, we all fucking sucked at game, and we can remember every tiny step we took and what changed in our results after applying that step. So we can lay out a course for you to do the same, which is actually practical and realistic, rather than just "wait till she's super attracted and nail her". As you've noticed, she isn't getting to that stage, cos you don't have your basics down in terms of generating attraction and investment. YET.



Ray