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sneaky_charm

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey fellas!

So I successfully got a girl out today. This is the first time I've ever went out with a girl via pure cold approach. Thanks to all of you!

So it was the same girl I mentioned here viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7249.

Finally had a date with her. Nothing too physical, but I know she is hooked HARD.


SETTING UP THE DATE

As she went a bit cold after being very warm in the beginning, I figured she was about to auto reject, so I went ahead and took the risk of calling her to build comfort.

Talked to her for about 10 minutes, offered some general info about myself. At some point, I simply mentioned that she had become so busy lately, to which she said that she is only free during Thursdays. She had classes all the rest of the week.

Bantering was okay during the call, nothing too special.

After about 30 minutes of cutting the call, it struck me that the next day was Thursday, so I thought FUCK IT, and went ahead to text her for a date the next day.

She responded after about 15 minutes asking where I planned to meet. I suggested a place, and she responded that she didn't know where it was.

I let her know that it was a cafe close to her house, and she responded that it was okay for her to meet, but not on Thursday. The good thing was, she counter offered Saturday. I readily accepted, using the text "See you at XXX at 4pm saturday.....good night!". I used the text specifically to not give her any leeway. She responded with "Owk....gud 9t :)".


THE DAY OF THE DATE

So far so good. Didn't text her a single thing at all during the following days. I woke up late to find a good morning text from her. The text was sent at about 11.30am. GOOD, CHASING ENGAGED.

Didn't reply until about 3pm. Then went ahead to confirm.

Her: Gd Mwng...:) :) :)
Me: I wke up hlf an hr ago lol...hv u figrd out whr the cafe is?
Her: Ya...at xxx...wld u mind if i brng my frnd? (SHIT...WHO THE FUCK THIS GIRL THINKS SHE IS?)
Me: Well i wasnt expctng a gt togthr ;) cme alone... (Use this message to lighten the mood with a bit of humor, while suggesting that she comes alone.)
Her: I actly dnt knw d plce wel (I thought it was shitty excuse at first, but later found out she really didn't know the place.)
Me: Jst stay near xxx place....gna mt u thr
Her: Do 1 thng...mt nr xxx shop....
Me: Xctly dnt knw d place...bt wl fnd out...wrks 4 me...c ya at 4 :) (Now I didn't like this girl making this hard for me and not accepting my offer, but I figured since I was calling all the shots, agreeing to her leading once to make the process smoother was no big deal. I used the last part of the text to cut all possible leeways.)
Her: Oky...

I was running a bit late, and figured that was a good thing.

Me: Im rnng a lil bt late...wl b dr at arnd 4.15
Her: Whr r u? i hv clsses frm 5 (What the heck? I didn't expect to have a half an hour date.)
Me: Wl rch at abt 4.15....wl cl wn i reach xxx shop (I figured it was best to not respond to her class objection.)
Her: I'm near xyz
Her: I hv clsses 4m 5 (You already told me this once. To hell with your classes.)

After reaching the place where we were supposed to meet, I called her. She appeared after about 2 minutes. Didn't dress too well, but it was okay.

Walked toward the cafe where the date was set. While walking, talked about what she did during the day, and other general things.

Now, she brought up the topic of having class from 5pm in person. I suggested that she could just not go to class today casually. Don't remember what she responded with. As we walked, she kept asking where the cafe was, and how much farther we had to walk.


THE ACTUAL DATE


After reaching the spot, went to the 1st floor of the cafe, but found it was quite packed.

I specifically chose that cafe because I was hoping there won't be many people, but I was wrong. SHIT. BAD TIMING.

Sat at one of the only two tables left face to face. It seemed like it was too much of a distance between me and her.

She began saying something, I couldn't hear her. So I took this as a chance to get closer, and I pulled my chair near her to make 90 degree angle with her. She was taken aback for a moment because I got close in such a way, but after we started bantering, her discomfort disappeared.

I found out about her past relationships, about sex life, how close she is with family members etc. etc.

This girl almost was trying to relate to me about EVERYTHING. Not a single differing opinion. She agreed to like almost whatever I liked or she thought I liked. Doing good!

After about 20 minutes or so of talking, she brought up the topic of her class in 5pm again. I suggested that she cancels the class. She called one of her classmates, and again called her teacher, to whom she said she had some "work" to do. If what she said was true, she never once missed that class in the whole year. Ditching a class for me, great. So basically, she ended up spending 1 hour 45 minutes with me, instead of 30 minutes. Class from 5pm my ass.

I set a number of frames. First, I said how I don't like many things in society, like the differing level of respect given to different jobs, and blah blah. I brought up the topic with the core intention of setting sexual frame. I did what everyone of you suggest. I said that I don't like how it's okay for a guy to have sex with 4 girls and when a girl does the same thing, the girl is referred to as slut.

As you can expect, she agreed. She was not all enthusiastic about it, as I expected her to be. However, after a while, if my judgement had been correct, she started giving me FUCK ME eyes now and then for very short durations.

As far as the conversation goes, It was about 60 - 40, with her talking 60% of the time, although I should shoot for about 80 - 20 as I get better.

Eye contact was about 70% of the time, which was pretty good.

Proximity was good enough, with me leaning in toward her, and she occasionally doing the same.

Interestingly, she broke the touch barrier herself after about 1 minute of meeting me. She did it by touching my lower back while walking behind me, like in a slightly pushing motion while we were on footpath.

Since I did not initiate touch, I decided to break the touch barrier with the most obvious method, which is, checking out her bracelet. She offered her hand without objection.

I even removed a lock of her hair from face, and she didn't even move a centimeter while I did this in slow motion.

I think I could have easily kissed her too, if not make out full on, but we had many others in very close proximity. So being a beginner, I was not comfortable doing anything. The real reason I did that was because I thought she might not respond back, since there were other people watching, even if she wanted to.

Note that I paid for her too. Now don't judge me based on it. I did that because I was afraid that if I asked her to split the bill, she might have the urge to auto reject me again, thinking that I took her for granted.

At last, when we went out of the cafe, I asked for a hug. At first she went "Here?", as we were walking on footpath with a few people nearby. I said "Ya" casually, and she gave me a hug. Nothing great, just about 2 seconds or so. Not intimate, neither sexual. I didn't try to give a sexual hug because we were near road, and it was kind of not a place for such a hug.

I know I may have done a number of things wrong. I think the process was only as easy as it was because she was hooked from the beginning.


AFTER REACHING HOME

Judging by the fact that she had almost no resistance to anythingg at all, and that she let me deep dive her so easily, I figured she must be quite nervous thinking whether i liked her or not. I didn't hear back from her till about 10pm. So I went ahead and send the following text...

"Had a grt tym 2dy! Gd 9t! :)"

After about a minute, I got this...

":) :) :) . .gd nt. . :) :) :)"

Talk about overuse of smileys! ;)

So guys, that's it. What do you think? What was good, and what could I have done better?


- Kevin
 

PrettyDecent

Tribal Elder
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Kevin, you're like a genuinely nice person, I can see it in your writing. Nice big milestone you crossed, too.

Date seemed good. Was it possible for you to pull her to your place?

~Nick
 

Dylweed

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Sounds strange how she questioned the hug. Hugs don't seem like a big deal to me lol Sounds like it went very well though. I've never brought that style myself of talking about slut shaming and all that. It would feel too forced for me. That's cool you tried it out.

I'd suggest going for a hug right in the beginning next time. And then try touching her on high points in the conversation. I'm curious how come you didn't try inviting her over though?

Sounds like she's into you, good job man!
 

sneaky_charm

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hey guys, thanks for the replies!

Nick said:
Kevin, you're like a genuinely nice person, I can see it in your writing. Nice big milestone you crossed, too.

Date seemed good. Was it possible for you to pull her to your place?

I don't know how you mean genuinely nice, but thanks!

Actually, I didn't even try. At this point, I'm just looking for full on makeouts during the first date, nothing more. Moreover, I do not bring girls to my room because I live in homestay, and landlord doesn't like that much. Will start doing that once I change place, which should happen soon. Thanks Nick! :)

Dylweed said:
I'd suggest going for a hug right in the beginning next time. And then try touching her on high points in the conversation. I'm curious how come you didn't try inviting her over though?

Sounds like she's into you, good job man!

Well, I'm not looking for first-day lays at this point. I'll keep your advice in mind next time! :)

- Kevin
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

maximus6004

Cro-Magnon Man
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You are very good at telling when a woman is interested in you, and your aware of your situation and level. Very good there. However, you can pay for dates if you want to. Only if you want to never get the mindset that you should pay to not lose her. No matter what level its a bad habit of thinking.

Also, I see situations like you moved closer to her, you did this, you did that. Start building some compliance from.her. Lke move closer to me, I dont have cooties. Im not going to bite you here. Something.like that.

Great jOb and breaking.the touch barrier and bringing up beginning steps to sexual contact
 
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