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sneaky_charm

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lol okay! I know I'm overexcited. It's not like I kissed the girl or bought the girl home or anything! Just went out and talked, that's it. But then, this is my first time ever going out with a girl who is semi-stranger (will explain this later), so this is a HUGE mental block removed as far as I'm concerned! This is gonna be long (I hope not boring), so bear with me please!

Alright, since this is my first report, and you guys obviously don't know me, let me tell you a little about myself. I've turned 20 yesterday (yeah, I've been 20 only for 3 hours so far), and I'm from Guwahati, India. Now I know a lot of Indians and others say that game is not possible in India, and I kind of agree, but I think if you take it slow, everything can work. In big cities like Delhi, Bangalore, Mumbai etc. one night stands are 'quite' common, but this is Guwahati, and first day sex with a stranger, oh well, I guess almost impossible! I don't believe anything is impossible, however, the society here is much more conservative than the big cities of India, let alone the biggest of the world! So you get the point!

Now a little about my approaches. You see, I've been reading Girlschase over a year maybe, not exactly sure. Well, I have only asked random questions to girls so far, like 20 girls or so, and mostly, I've got positive or neutral responses. (Only once it was negative, the girl was a few years older than me, it was little dark even with street lights, and I asked her 'Can I ask you something?', and she replied 'No, you may leave now!' with a really sour tone!) Note that conversations never lasted more than a few sentences, less than a minute or so in most cases! And always indirect!

The approach I'm most proud of so far happened a few days ago. I was out, not trying to game or anything, but to have something repaired in a service center. Then I asked directions from a girl sitting in a medical store, and she was my age (very uncommon to see well dressed teens watching over shops here, she was just for a while i suppose as a replacement for her family member or something). I noticed she was cute, but didn't talk right away. Then after a while, I noticed that she was looking my way too. So when I was about to leave the place, I finally gathered enough courage, went directly to her, and said calmly "Do you think we can meet outside for a coffee?". She hesitated, obviously not prepared for something like that in broad daylight. (And besides, I bet she was never approached like that by anyone in her entire life since this city is not too open in that regard. Heck, I even think a stranger never even showed any kind of interest, let alone ask her out! The people of this city just don't work that way!) She said "I'm not interested!", but I noticed she didn't make eye contact, her eyes lowered. (Submission, duh duh! Woohoo!) I tried to persist a bit, saying "It will only take 20 minutes!" (immediately realized the response was weak though), but she said no again. I said "Alright. Have a nice day!" and left. I felt like a FUCKING MILLION BUCKS! LOL! I think she wanted to say yes, but social pressure didn't let her, since she would've looked 'easy'. The problem here was, I asked her out straight away! Never built rapport, never asked her name even! Never told mine! But since I was only testing what I can get away with in this city, I was a winner! I asked a girl I didn't know directly to go out, and she replied politely. No big scene created or anything, so next time, I won't be afraid to do such a thing! AND THAT WAS MY GOAL EXACTLY. TO REMOVE MENTAL BARRIER!

Anyway, now coming to the girl about whom this report is! First of all, I know this girl. I was in the same school, and she was a junior. As far as I remember, we knew each other by name and face but never talked. It has been 4 years since I left school, and she is in the same city now. So we contacted using facebook, and then decided to meet. So basically, although I knew her, she was still a total stranger!

Note that pre-selection may have worked in her case a bit, since I was a relatively good student in school, and teachers at times talk about senior good students before juniors! Besides, i think she knew that I scored nicely on the final school exam, and after school went to a truly reputed college of the state.

Well after sending her FB request, and her accepting, I had contacted her now and then, for short periods building rapport. Whenever I left conversation, didn't reply the last message always. Hadn't contacted her for at least 15 days I guess. And we talked about meeting once, and she said she remained free on Mondays. So the day I wanted to meet her, as it was Monday, I straight dived to the point.

That day's FB conversation:

Me: 12:50pm HB is 2dy evening a good time to meet?

Girl: 2:26pm Tym??

Me: 3:01pm Watz ur entry limit? (Here, most college students from far away places usually stay at private hostels that have entry restrictions. Normally ranging from 5pm to 7pm in most cases.)

Girl: 3:14pm 5.30

Me: 3:29pm Alright.. b at kalakhetra 4.30 .... sounds good? (kalakhetra being a park only about a mile away from my place)

Girl: 3:30pm Nooooo....imn durale nuari ru dei.....cz jaute tym lgibo.... (TRANSLATION: Noooo....can't do so far away....cause it'll take time to reach...)

Me: 3:37pm Where r u r8 nw?

Girl: 3:38pm Bhngagrh.... (name of a place about 20 mins away from my place)

Me: 3:45pm Big bazaar 4.30 that's it (Big Bazaar is a shopping mall at Bhngagrh)

Girl: 3:46pm U r cumn??

Me: 3:49pm M nearby, so that's fine with me (actually I wasn't nearby, was in my place, but since my going to meet her all the way seemed weak, I had to lie. would have arranged something in between, but since time was limited given it was 3.49 already, and she had to enter her hostel at 5, I decided to go all the way)

Girl: 3:50pm Ok...bt i ll nt b nl9 dat tym ..hw vl u cntct me?

Me: 3:52pm Simple....write down your number... (i thought about the response a bit before sending, in order to command and not look weak at all)

Girl: 3:54pm F9..8xxxx9xxxx...

Me: 4:01pm See ya


So then, I quickly dressed nicely, took bus, and reached the place. I was a bit late, so sent a text to her number saying "I'm running late....gonna reach before 4.40"....I think she sent simple "ok". Then after I reached the place, I called her. She said she didn't reach the mall yet. Now if I didn't read Girlschase, I would've have definitely waited for her. But knowing what I know now, I decided to not go there immediately. I had to recharge my phone, so went to a shop near shopping mall, and I passed her in the street coming from opposite direction, but pretended not to see (she didn't see me, she was talking with someone over phone). I resisted the urge to stop her there and then, and let her go to the shopping mall instead. Then about a minute later she called asking where i was... I said I will reach there now. (I bet she didn't think she was gonna be the one who will have to wait for me! lol! the power of knowing what you're doing!) Reached her seconds after the call, she saw me and turned to me. I extended my hand to break touch barrier, she took it, I didn't let go right away, and held it, didn't shake it. Kept holding lightly for about 4 seconds I guess.

Don't exactly remember what we said, but the summary is below:

Me: Let's enter....
She: Want to enter the mall?
Me: Yeah let's go.....

Awkward pause

Me: So how is hostel life?
She: Good
Me: How are the people there?
She: Nice
Me: What do you do there?
She: We have fun
Me: What kind of fun
She: Just normal fun, not anything vulgar (I didn't say anything about vulgar, don't know why she brought that up cause she didn't seem too open to any sexual thing! or maybe, i read it wrong, maybe this city is not so closed off, and maybe i should have started little sexual conversation right away!)
Me: Or want to sit here? (pointing to stairs of the mall)
She: No let's sit inside

Damn as we entered, she was walking in front of me. Shit! I had to lead always. I was about to take stairs, she walked in a different direction, trying to take the lift. Now there was kind of awkward silence, so I asked her something I don't remember. Also told her that before coming to the mall, I was nearby to give something to my uncle, which I think she bought.

She: What you are studying?
Me: Well, I don't study. I'm gonna resume studying after 2 or 3 years. Something different ambition!
She: What is your ambition?
Me: We''ll talk about that later (noticed that her expression suggested she didn't like my response)
She: Job?
Me: Yea you can say, kind of business actually.

Then I suddenly decided to go out of the mall.

Me: Let's walk to to blah blah restaurant (immediately regretted, shit, this was bad, why the hell was i suggesting a restaurant, must have made her think i was trying to date her like all the other guys)
She: Oh no no, that restaurant is too far, let's go to one of the restaurants nearby
Me: Okay (Heck, I had to counter offer! Shit, she was leading and I fell for it!)

We walked out of the mall, and sometimes she was walking ahead, and sometimes I. She went the opposite way crossing all the traffic, I followed like a pussy! (Shit, felt like a wimp!)

Then we just walked in the footpath, and conversed. The good thing is, she was the one talking about 75% of the time. I'll not go all into details, but let's say that I was able to know her quite a bit. Like she doesn't like to follow rules always. She has brother, mom and dad. She loves her dad more than mom, but knows that her mom loves her a lot too. Misses them after coming to the city, but doesn't go all that much to home anymore. Had exams recently, and didn't do much good. Like most chocolates, but don't like dark chocolates. Also, at first she said she always wanted to be a doctor since she was kid, but as I pressed a little, told that she wanted to be an aeronautical engineer. But since she doesn't like the subjects, didn't go that route. Wants to go out of state for further studies and blah blah. Thing is, she told me a lot about her, and unless she tells those things to everyone (which I don't think), I think I did pretty well in this regard. I guess my low amount of enthusiasm, projected boredom, slow walk, and comfortable pauses and silences made her talk all that much!

Anyway, at some point I also asked her what clothes she liked, and she said "simple normal clothes, nothing too revealing" (why did she say that, I only asked what she liked? what's up here! what's going on!) Then I said "Names?", and she gave me a few names of clothes! Amazing how much you can get away with if you just project a demanding and commanding image! And little bit of pushing and pressing, that goes really far with conversations too!

So anyway, then after a while, my watch suggested it was about 4.45, so I said "Let's not go to restaurant today, don't want to cause you too much trouble in the first day itself" (Trouble being if I kept her past 5, that is against hostel rules. I know it implied meeting her again in future, but don't know if that was a good thing or a bad thing!) Then we took a U turn, kept chatting. I saw my watch and thought it's best to leave before her suggesting that, in order to imply that I'm not clingy or anything. So I looked at my watch and said "Let's leave here for today then!" Then she said "Bus stop is the way we are gong!" So I said "Okay" and kept going in the same direction, still chatting now and then. Then we crossed the road,and there was no conversation for about a minute when we crossed roads.We reached the bus stop, and I said "Bye" while we both were walking. She said "Bye", and I didn't look her way again. (I think it would've been better if we stopped, and I took her hand again, saying a few words before leaving. Anyway, lesson learned!)

After coming home, I didn't text her for about 2 hours. Then I texted :

Me: "Keeping the promise I suppose?" (She told me she promised her best guy friend that she was gonna study hard that night! To which I asked "And are you a girl who keeps her promises?" to redirect the conversation from the guy and making it about her. She answered "Don't know.")
Her: Yup :p
Me: Just wanted to let you know that it was good (I consciously used 'good' in order to not seem too excited) meeting you. Maybe we'll do that again later! GN!
Her: ok :) (expected 'me too' or something, but guess this response is fine too)

Haven't texted her anymore, it has been 3 days. Didn't really like her looks too much, so don't think I'm too interested even though I may try to meet her again for killing boredom.

So what do you think guys? How was it?

(I know I know, no kiss, no make out, but it is not really that simple to kiss a girl in the first date here, heck I have NEVER EVER even witnessed public kissing! So that's the way the city is. I hope with tight gaming, I will be able to kiss girls and make out a bit in the first day itself in future, but sex is, I'm afraid, not really possible given the mentality of people. Even sex in relationships is a big deal here, and people normally don't talk openly about it! But let's see how far I can take it. You guys are here with me, so I'm sure there is long way to go! And maybe, I'll be able to defy the social rules and norms too in the coming years as I get better, who knows! ;)

P.S. THIS FUCKING TOOK ME ABOUT ONE AND A HALF HOUR TO WRITE! NOW I KNOW WHY ONLY SO MANY PEOPLE WRITE FIELD REPORTS! HECK, IT CONSUMES TIME! AND CALL ME "AARON" IF YOU LIKE!

*AARON*
 

Mr. Wes

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Hey Aaron. Nice job with stepping out of your comfort zone and testing social barriers.
When she was saying this: "nothing vulgar"
And this: "nothing too revealing"
I believe she was trying to define herself as a good girl to you. In conservative societies, women believe that being like this will help them become desired by a man.
While in less conservative societies, it is the opposite.

From what you explained about the culture of India, I believe it is possible for you to be a gamer, but I believe your game will be adjusted in different ways.
For one, I think you should have some tight fundamentals. Like so good that you could even pass for a Bollywood star. Haha. If all the other guys around you look the same, boring, and dull...you should stand out with fundamentals.
Women should feel like you're someone special when you're talking to them. You want them thinking: "wow. This great guy is talking to me?"
Also, since the society is pretty conservative and you say that there are exceptions, I think you should screen for the girls who are open using deep diving.
For example, having a discussion about the things you both dislike about society. That will be your chance to see her views on things.
If she seems like a rebel, reward her. Tell her you appreciate someone who does what she wants and she's unique.

Overall I've never heard of any puas in India. This will be interesting to see your transformation.
Good luck to you.
Wes
 

Mr.Rob

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Whats up Allen, cool to hear you broke a milestone, always an awesome feeling to see progression... Now just do it 20 more times and you'll really be seeing progress.

Your post was extremely long so I just skimmed most of it so I don't have any technical advice to give on where you messed up in particular. I like the fact your trying out some cold approaching even if it is indirect. Though I will say you need to be pushing your comfort zone on this. Don't get stuck to where you get comfortable with indirect. Soon you want to be going indirect direct, and then go full out direct. This will do two things for you in the long run (once you start going direct).
1. It will help you weed the wheat from the chaff- Meaning it will easily separate girl that aren't into you and you can move on (within seconds or minutes rather than wasting time beating around the bush) with.
2. Get you comfortable getting rejected- Yes this is important. A part of life is being rejected by life itself. Real men face there fears and rejection and know they will be alright in the end. Being rejected is how you become stronger mentally and spiritually which will in the long run separate you from the wheat and the chaff (you'll be the wheat ;).

Keep it up dude most guys never get the balls to start what you started. Show us you have the balls to finish what you started ;).

Over and out,

-Rob

P.S. Have you read the articles by Chase on opening indirect direct. I believe he has one or two articles that you definitely need to read. Let me know if you haven't and I'll link them to you.
 

sneaky_charm

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Wesley said:
Hey Aaron. Nice job with stepping out of your comfort zone and testing social barriers.
Thank you Wes!

Wesley said:
When she was saying this: "nothing vulgar"
And this: "nothing too revealing"
I believe she was trying to define herself as a good girl to you. In conservative societies, women believe that being like this will help them become desired by a man.
While in less conservative societies, it is the opposite.

That makes sense. Maybe that's what happened!

Wesley said:
For one, I think you should have some tight fundamentals. Like so good that you could even pass for a Bollywood star. Haha.

Lol! I've height around 5'6", low by even Indian standards, and very skinny. I'll work on the skinny thing, but I'm afraid, not possible to work on height! :p

Wesley said:
I think you should screen for the girls who are open using deep diving.
For example, having a discussion about the things you both dislike about society. That will be your chance to see her views on things.
If she seems like a rebel, reward her. Tell her you appreciate someone who does what she wants and she's unique.

Love your advice here!

Wesley said:
Overall I've never heard of any puas in India. This will be interesting to see your transformation.
Good luck to you.
Wes

Thanks Wes. I'm not trying to be ultimate PUA or anything, but I do want to be able to get almost any girl I want! Let's see how far I can go! ;)
 
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sneaky_charm

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Mr.Rob said:
Whats up Allen, cool to hear you broke a milestone, always an awesome feeling to see progression... Now just do it 20 more times and you'll really be seeing progress.

Thanks for the motivation!

Mr.Rob said:
Your post was extremely long so I just skimmed most of it

Feel your pain :D

Mr.Rob said:
Don't get stuck to where you get comfortable with indirect.

I have to say that's solid advice man. Once we decide to always stay on the comfort zone, it becomes impossible to imporve in any area!

Mr.Rob said:
Keep it up dude most guys never get the balls to start what you started. Show us you have the balls to finish what you started ;).

Over and out,

-Rob

Thanks! I hope that too!

Mr.Rob said:
Have you read the articles by Chase on opening indirect direct.

Yes I've read them. Very catchy. Tried once, didn't work. Must have come off as weak in my fundamentals!
 

Mr. Wes

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Wesley said:
For one, I think you should have some tight fundamentals. Like so good that you could even pass for a Bollywood star. Haha.

Lol! I've height around 5'6", low by even Indian standards, and very skinny. I'll work on the skinny thing, but I'm afraid, not possible to work on height! :p

True, there's nothing you can do about height. I'm pretty short myself but that doesn't stop me.
Other fundamentals are things like a sexy walk, deep voice, slowness to you movements, great presence and vibe, Fashion sense.
I like to think of fundamentals as all of the things outside of your personality that people are attracted to. The things that will have a woman curious about you first so that she'd want to get to know you.

Wes
 

Go10

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Hey nice seeing a fellow citizen on GC. I am 18 though and finding girls in my age group 15-19 is a pain the ass as they are usually with their parents, friends..guess i don't need to explain all that to you. Have you cold approached anyone else after that, and if so how's it been?
 
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