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NarrowJ

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I had met this girl through a friend not long ago. We had hit it off pretty well at first, but it ended up going nowhere. About four months later (yesterday) I'm walking around the mall after getting my hair cut, trying to pick up a few #s and I run into her.

I approach her from the side as she's browsing and say "long time no see, stranger" and give a sexy smile / warm vibe / strong eye contact as she turns to me. She lights up and asks me how I've been and all that, and asks what I'm doing at the mall- to which I actually reply: "Just trying to pick up some chicks at the mall, and thought you were looking pretty hot so..." but then I smile slowly and tell her I'm just joking and that I'm picking up a gift for my mom for her birthday and needed a haircut. She laughs/smiles and I ask her why she's shopping in the "sexy outfit" section. I joke that she's buying something because she thought she was going to see me sometime soon. Her reaction to this isn't really a great one, she does smile but just says "well, if you think sundresses are sexy outfits then yeah I suppose so". I brush it off and continue. I need to elicit a better reaction from her somehow before I do something like try to move her.

We talk just a little more, and after a couple back and forths I ask if she's about done shopping. She informs me that she's really just killing time because her girlfriend ditched her for their afternoon lunch date today and she has nothing to do. Perfect. I tell her that works out good for her, because she saw me, and I need help picking out my mom's gift. So, I tell her to come with me to the handbags / purses / etc and she says "ok sure!" with a smile and I touch her shoulder gently and turn her in that direction and we walk over there and she starts talking about how the last time she saw me we were at a concert blah blah blah. As we’re looking at things, I occasionally touch her arm, back, shoulder etc and point at something for her to look at. She’s comfortable with this level of touch. Good.

So anyway, I end up with something for my mom and it seems like we’re about to part ways so I get her number, which I had it before but deleted it. At this point, instead of bidding her farewell I tell her we should go grab Cherry Berry (frozen yogurt place). To which, she actually smirks a little and says “So, what are we best friends now?” but I remain calm and don’t react and go with a yes ladder:

Well, aren’t you glad you ran into me? ...“Yeah of course”
And you like talking to me? ...“Well yeah”
And you like ice cream, right? ...“Haha you’re silly. Ok, let’s go get some ice cream then”

Cha-ching. We walk up to the checkout counter together, and as we do I lead her through some racks of clothing with my hand on the small of her back. She asks me if she should just ride with me, and I say yes. We check out and pay and everything and I carry her bag out “where’s your car?” and we take her stuff and drop it at her car, then go to my vehicle and get in. So, to shorten this a bit- we head over, have some yogurt. I’m sitting on this bench (more of a couch thing, really) with her and we are talking and at some point she start joking around and poking me in the side and stuff. She says I’m ticklish and keeps doing it. I lightly grab her arm, and pull her into me so my face is really close to hers and I say “You had better stop that, before something bad happens” and give her a slow, sexy smile. She says “what’s that?” with a grin and I grab the back of her neck and pull her in and give her a passionate kiss.

She's taken aback, but in a good way. We sit and talk a little more (I deep dive, and we talk about some things about her family) and we kiss a few more times. I tell her we should go grab a movie and watch it or something since we both don’t have anything to do. She says she thinks it might be a better idea if she takes off, and says she wasn’t really expecting all this to happen. She just wanted to buy a couple dresses or whatever. I persist with “It’s totally ok, I promise I’ll behave myself” and also “I wasn’t expecting this to happen either. But it’s pretty cool that it did. Let’s go watch a movie or hell we don’t even have to do that. We can just chill” and finally the ultimatum “Well then, if you don’t want to I guess I can’t kidnap you. So we can either hang out a little more, because I thought this was going really well. Or, we can go ahead and call it a day and then I’ll just get a hold of you sometime and we can hang out again” and she responds that she guesses she really doesn’t have much else going on, and that she is enjoying spending time with me. We go get a movie, and head back to my place.

We arrive at my house, and I have her take her shoes off. I get us something to drink and pop the movie in. Start making out, and I begin rubbing all over her and about 5 minutes in I go between her legs with my hand. LMR. I go back to rubbing her sides and breasts and a couple minutes later I go back between her legs. LMR again. She stops and says “I just- I don’t really know you all that well” and (while smiling) “hey aren’t we going to watch this movie, mister?” and I referred back to what she said at the store and I say “You know me pretty well, we’re like best friends. Remember?” and start making out again. I get us to lay down on the couch and go for the rear stimulation, which she doesn’t stop me so I do this for a while. She is starting to breathe a little heavier now, and getting more into the making out, more tongue. I put her hand on my crotch and she starts rubbing my dick. I let her do this for a while and I unbutton my pants and put her hand down there and she gives me a HJ. I unbutton her pants and LMR again. She stops and says “I just don’t feel comfortable doing this” and “I don’t just sleep with guys like this” and I start giving her little kisses on her face and forehead and tell her that she seems plenty comfortable to me and that her body wants it and to just go with it, and start kissing her again. I go for the burst of passion this time, and this seals it- I already had her shorts unbuttoned so they come off easily with the underwear as well. I get my pants off and myself into her, and we have sex like 4 or 5 times over the next 3 hours or so.

I've done this before, but back in my younger days when I was a late teen/early 20's and probably just was able to do it because of the way 17-21 year old girls are. But- this was my first day game instant date lay since I started getting serious about pickup. I already knew this girl, though. Maybe I’m ready to take it a step further and try this process with some of the girls that I would usually be happy just getting a phone number from?

Thoughts, suggestions, feedback welcomed!

Holla!
-NarrowJ
 
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girlsfollow

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NarrowJ said:
I had met this girl through a friend not long ago. We had hit it off pretty well at first, but it ended up going nowhere. About four months later (yesterday) I'm walking around the mall after getting my hair cut, trying to pick up a few #s and I run into her.
That is a great summary of an ideal ending to day game - very impressive

I'm always impressed by the persistence of some of you guys in the face of so much resistance. I'd be fascinated to hear more detail on what exactly you said when she said "I don't usually have sex with guys just like this" - you said you just carried on kissing

- I get the impression that this can come off as a chasing move - as in she has pushed you away and you are continuing to pursue. I'm really interested in the way you avoided eliciting this feeling in her?
 

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Right on dude thats a sick lay. Idk why i never think of going on instant dates with girls I bump into that are acquaintances, I usually small talk for a minute then carry on with my daygame/night game for some reason but definitely going to give that a shot. Also props to what girlsfollow said with the resistence im 19 and pretty new to dating and fucking in general and am still figuring out how to handle LMR correctly always cool to get positive info in my subconscious. Keep up the posts homie.
 

NarrowJ

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Guys,

If you read through, you'll see I did offer some verbal counter to that LMR. I basically went sweet on her and instead of sexual stuff I started kissing her around the face and on her forehead and basically told her that its okay that her body wants something that her mind can't connect to (albeit I didn't make the connection myself) and she put the rest together herself I suppose. I would also like to see Chase or Franco weigh in on the psychology here. I would bet the use of a big burst of passion at an opportune time helped as well. I knew I had to break her shell, and I did. I accomplished the goal, but yet I can't really explain how I did. Wish I could be more helpful! :( I have questions about the things I do myself most times...

-NJ
 

Ross

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She stops and says “I just- I don’t really know you all that well” and (while smiling) “hey aren’t we going to watch this movie, mister?” and I referred back to what she said at the store and I say “You know me pretty well, we’re like best friends. Remember?”

Hah! Very nicely done. I'm going to have to remember that one. I've used it while having sex for dominance, but never used it in response to LMR of her not knowing me well enough. I guess I rarely get that form of resistance anymore because I usually get to know women faster and better than her friends know her.

I also love the timing of your kiss with her. That was an escalation window and you nailed it.

I already knew this girl, though. Maybe I’m ready to take it a step further and try this process with some of the girls that I would usually be happy just getting a phone number from?

It helped to get rid of the "stranger in a place vibe" that can sometimes plague seductions and be used as LMR. Overall, it made things easier since you've already met in passing before. Whenever you pick up other women the process is typically the same, but I would do a little more with the emotional connection before the lay. The physical attraction to you was certainly there and made the seduction run well. But whenever I see women claiming in LMR that they don't know me well enough, it tells me something that I probably already knew; that I didn't form a rock-solid emotional connection with her. Just know this for when you are deciding what roles the women are going to fill as it helps you to plan accordingly when deciding how strong of a connection to build.

Other than that my only tip would be to cool the jets a little on the use of "sexy" and "hot" while opening. Most times, these sound like someone's chasing you. I normally notice the same from women; they'll say things along the lines of, "Wow, you look sexy today..." This tells me that they are in the role of the chase and are being extremely direct about it, so I have all green lights to escalate. Instead, I'd say be dripping of sexuality when you meet her. If she asks what you're doing at the mall say, "Trying to pick up some chicks at the mall, and I saw you around so..." Undertones of direct, but never actually stating direct that you can allow for a little mystery.

Overall, great seduction. You have a lot of skill and show that you know how to deal with things not going according to plan. Now just comes the fine-tuning ;).
 

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NarrowJ,

NarrowJ said:
I approach her from the side as she's browsing and say "long time no see, stranger" and give a sexy smile / warm vibe / strong eye contact as she turns to me. She lights up and asks me how I've been and all that, and asks what I'm doing at the mall- to which I actually reply: "Just trying to pick up some chicks at the mall, and thought you were looking pretty hot so..." but then I smile slowly and tell her I'm just joking and that I'm picking up a gift for my mom for her birthday and needed a haircut. She laughs/smiles and I ask her why she's shopping in the "sexy outfit" section. I joke that she's buying something because she thought she was going to see me sometime soon. Her reaction to this isn't really a great one, she does smile but just says "well, if you think sundresses are sexy outfits then yeah I suppose so". I brush it off and continue. I need to elicit a better reaction from her somehow before I do something like try to move her.

I figure the reason that she did not respond well when you said "she thought she was going to see me sometime soon" because you already light her up, and you already said she was looking pretty hot.

So it kind of like you not believing in what you said beforehand, and you already light her up.

NarrowJ said:
To which, she actually smirks a little and says “So, what are we best friends now?” but I remain calm and don’t react and go with a yes ladder:

Well, aren’t you glad you ran into me? ...“Yeah of course”
And you like talking to me? ...“Well yeah”
And you like ice cream, right? ...“Haha you’re silly. Ok, let’s go get some ice cream then”

Brilliant, i want to use this too. :D

NarrowJ said:
She's taken aback, but in a good way. We sit and talk a little more (I deep dive, and we talk about some things about her family) and we kiss a few more times. I tell her we should go grab a movie and watch it or something since we both don’t have anything to do. She says she thinks it might be a better idea if she takes off, and says she wasn’t really expecting all this to happen. She just wanted to buy a couple dresses or whatever. I persist with “It’s totally ok, I promise I’ll behave myself” and also “I wasn’t expecting this to happen either. But it’s pretty cool that it did. Let’s go watch a movie or hell we don’t even have to do that. We can just chill” and finally the ultimatum “Well then, if you don’t want to I guess I can’t kidnap you. So we can either hang out a little more, because I thought this was going really well. Or, we can go ahead and call it a day and then I’ll just get a hold of you sometime and we can hang out again” and she responds that she guesses she really doesn’t have much else going on, and that she is enjoying spending time with me.

Maybe the deep dive, wasn't hitting home. Maybe it was too short or didn't catch her somewhat. Hmm, spending more time with knowing her more might ease the transition. But you win anyway. Haha!

Zac
 

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NarrowJ said:
Guys,

If you read through, you'll see I did offer some verbal counter to that LMR. I basically went sweet on her and instead of sexual stuff I started kissing her around the face and on her forehead and basically told her that its okay that her body wants something that her mind can't connect to (albeit I didn't make the connection myself) and she put the rest together herself I suppose. I would also like to see Chase or Franco weigh in on the psychology here. I would bet the use of a big burst of passion at an opportune time helped as well. I knew I had to break her shell, and I did. I accomplished the goal, but yet I can't really explain how I did. Wish I could be more helpful! :( I have questions about the things I do myself most times...

-NJ
Yeh I think you had broken through most of the resistance here if you had her giving you a HJ anyway - but its still a big step to penetration so its still worth analysing in detail.

I'd be interested to hear what you think about my strategy of just talking it through in my LR,

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NarrowJ

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Ross and Zac:

I do need to deep dive a little more. I feel like my interactions are pretty casual, and we mostly converse about light subjects. I need to get better at drilling into a girl's persona and getting her to tell me things about herself that she normally doesn't offer up to just anyone. Both of you- your comments cemented this for me. So thanks for that!


GF:

Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm not sure my logical explanation ("you seem plenty comfortable to me- it's ok, your body obviously wants and needs this") actually helped so much, but combined with the burst of passion it got me through her LMR.



-NJ
 

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NarrowJ said:
Well, aren’t you glad you ran into me? ...“Yeah of course”
And you like talking to me? ...“Well yeah”
And you like ice cream, right? ...“Haha you’re silly. Ok, let’s go get some ice cream then”

I really need to start implementing this more cause i usually get to the brink of moving somewhere and end up folding or just rambling


Another nice report i need to start getting serious so i can start insta lays since im entering my prime years soon
 
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