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Hi,
I've noticed a pattern with some girls I dated (met online or through friends) and had not success with. It goes like this:
-We met each other at some place for a coffee and some talking, maybe a pool game or stuff like that, simple cool dates
-We talk a lot about lots of stuff, we laugh, get along.
-I try to make lots of eye contact, sometimes it seems to work nicely, other not so.
-I try to start getting a bit phisical, like putting my hand on her back while crossing or touching her shoulder to make some point etc.
-If we sit on front of each other (in the coffee shop) , there is lots of eye contact both ways, and laughs, yet nothing too sexual, nor too neutral.
-Then I usually walk around some more and try to sit somewhere quietly next to each other to try to go for a kiss (bench on a park, grass, etc).
-We keep talking, I sit closely (maybe legs touching hers, maybe not) but they usually look away. And give me a quick glance at me from time to time.
This is where I'm stuck, I would like to get that vibe going where both of us are looking at each other and are closer and closer until it just happens. But they usually look away, sometimes their bodies look away too, sometimes not so much.
I tried to kind of force it going close to her, but I get rejected that way, It doesn't feel natural either.
I asked for advice from a female friend, and she said something that surprised me, and that I think is truth sometimes, girls get nervous in a situation like that (sitting next to each other), so they won't look me in the eyes with such intent.
So now, the questions.
Should I try a different situation for a first kiss than sitting next to each other in a bench or grass, or anything like that?
If I put my arm around her, even if there's not a strong vibe going on, will it hurt my chances? also, should my arm be around her waist or her shoulders?
Should I try a manhandle kiss or something like that? It would be very difficult for me, but it might be a good idea.
Were my fundamentals/looks/whatever not good enough to make her like me and help me get that first kiss (pointing her body at me, etc)?
Another important data, is that once I received by mistake a message meant to her friend saying "nope, nothing happened, at one point I even got bored". She didn't say it was about me obviously, but it was hours after the date, so it seems the most probable.
This tells me she was expecting something to happen, and was kind of disappointed. So It was one more argument on favor of her being nervous, not unwanting.
Thanks for any help.
I've noticed a pattern with some girls I dated (met online or through friends) and had not success with. It goes like this:
-We met each other at some place for a coffee and some talking, maybe a pool game or stuff like that, simple cool dates
-We talk a lot about lots of stuff, we laugh, get along.
-I try to make lots of eye contact, sometimes it seems to work nicely, other not so.
-I try to start getting a bit phisical, like putting my hand on her back while crossing or touching her shoulder to make some point etc.
-If we sit on front of each other (in the coffee shop) , there is lots of eye contact both ways, and laughs, yet nothing too sexual, nor too neutral.
-Then I usually walk around some more and try to sit somewhere quietly next to each other to try to go for a kiss (bench on a park, grass, etc).
-We keep talking, I sit closely (maybe legs touching hers, maybe not) but they usually look away. And give me a quick glance at me from time to time.
This is where I'm stuck, I would like to get that vibe going where both of us are looking at each other and are closer and closer until it just happens. But they usually look away, sometimes their bodies look away too, sometimes not so much.
I tried to kind of force it going close to her, but I get rejected that way, It doesn't feel natural either.
I asked for advice from a female friend, and she said something that surprised me, and that I think is truth sometimes, girls get nervous in a situation like that (sitting next to each other), so they won't look me in the eyes with such intent.
So now, the questions.
Should I try a different situation for a first kiss than sitting next to each other in a bench or grass, or anything like that?
If I put my arm around her, even if there's not a strong vibe going on, will it hurt my chances? also, should my arm be around her waist or her shoulders?
Should I try a manhandle kiss or something like that? It would be very difficult for me, but it might be a good idea.
Were my fundamentals/looks/whatever not good enough to make her like me and help me get that first kiss (pointing her body at me, etc)?
Another important data, is that once I received by mistake a message meant to her friend saying "nope, nothing happened, at one point I even got bored". She didn't say it was about me obviously, but it was hours after the date, so it seems the most probable.
This tells me she was expecting something to happen, and was kind of disappointed. So It was one more argument on favor of her being nervous, not unwanting.
Thanks for any help.