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Back again gents
Been having a lot of dates with girls I've been meeting through school and day game. However the last few dates have all been the same. I meet up with the girl, we talk and build a connection, I try to escalate, IT works for a bit then dies down and we both go home disappointed. During my observations I've pinpointed some weaknesses in my game but I'll save those for the end of the FR.
So 2 Fridays ago I met this girl at school during my afternoon class. She has a nice body, tits and ass. Her face is decent with fairly short hair in a bob style. She's also much shorter than me, 5'3" to be exact. She was working as a janitor for the school and I happened to bump into her on my way out of the bathroom. I saw her again, called her over and started talking with her. We didn't have a great connection but I had a sexual vibe with her and we planned to get food the following Tuesday ( 1 week from yesterday.) We decide to meet up as planned and I get to know her. I'm very vague with my answers (Backstory recently commented on how I should tone this down a bit or I could give girls the wrong impression.) However I deep dove her abit. She actually lives extremely close to me (down the street) and she's very sexual. During the conversation I asked her what's the wildest thing she has ever done and she says "she got caught fucking at our school in public" so I know it's on with her
. I tease about her ex-boyfriend and she says he was ugly and didn't fuck good. I cockily ask if I look better to which she agrees. Now this girl is super shy and an introvert but she has a super high sex drive. The way I've constructed my sexual vibe over the past few months is that I use alot of nonverbal and deep eye contact. I have a polarizing stare and I notice I can build alot of sexual tension with women. I try to counter this by being more playful, teasing, and using chase frames.
Anyways the convo gets to a point where I feel it's time to kiss her. I go in and we make out lightly. I pull back and see her facing very openly towards me and she bites her lip. I see the window and move her towards her car. However she wont let me get in, saying " It's super messy." I use all kind of objections saying "well listen to music" "I need to go to my house to get a jacket" etc but it's a no go. I tell her I want ice cream from cold stone and she agrees. We sit abit then make out some more. I try pulling her inside her car but she wont unlock her doors. I suggest we sit in my car and she agrees and we end up in the back seat.I proceed to play music that turns her on and I start escalating using escalation ladders and eye contact. I also experimented with push-pull abit and things are going well. However, I go for her neck and she pulls back. This goes on a bit more but it's not going anywhere despite my constant persistence. She eventually says "she has to do a lot of homework" and we leave. I'm not worried at all because I know I'll get her the next time we meet up.
Round 2
I had actually planned to meet up with her on Tuesday but I had to flake on her because a new girl I met was only free for this day. Janitor girl was pretty upset about it but nevertheless she agreed to meet up today. I told her to meet me at this Spanish food restaurant not to far from where we live. Once I get there I have a change of taste and go for pizza. While I'm deciding on my pizza I see her walking my way. I meet her outside and give her a big hug and we talk abit. This girl is super shy as I said and I have to build up her comfort in the conversation. I tell her we're ordering pizza and she should pick what she wants. The pizza is going to take 10 minutes to finish so I tell her we'll go for a walk. We walk abit then I stop her and start making out with her. It's nothing major but I just wanted to set the mood early on in the date. We get the pizza then I find a park not to far from us and suggest we go there. This park is pretty big, filled with baseball fields, a playground and even batting cages. We eat side by side and I deep dive her abit. Having learned from my date last night I'm more straight forward with my answers. The vagueness was to much on my part and didn't help my cause. I mention that I used to be this super nervous guy a few years back and she's curious to know. I tell a short story of how I was to scared to ask a girl out in the 7th grade so I got my friend to ask for me and how I was crushed when she rejected me. Knowing she was shy she really opened up to this subject and she tells me a story about herself. After a while we laugh at the situation and we're done eating the pizza.
I then tell her I have to piss, I handle my business and we walk towards the playground. I see a swing set and see my opportunity. I sit on it and motion her to sit on my lap. Howeverm that shit was uncomfortable as fuck so I tell her get up. She then turns around and get on top of me, facing towards me. We make out, this time much more passionately, but my nuts are hurting like a bitch on the swings haha. I pick her up off me and go towards the bench then motion her again to resume the position. Things are getting exciting, I'm kissing her getting her excited but this girl's a Tease! Every few kisses she'll pullback. Knowing I should be doing that and not her, I try to gain control of the pullback kisses. We're there maybe 5 minutes then she stops me. There's some teenagers around as well so I figure to move towards a quieter place. We walk towards the baseball field and I ask how many boyfriends she's had. She says five and asks mine. I get her to guess and she says 10 (shit I wish.)I tell her my #, saying 3&1/2 and she asks me to explain the half. I say how I was with this girl in college but it was never official. I ask how many people she has had sex and she says about 6. That gets her to reveal she had a friends with benefits from school that she had been fucking a few months ago. This dude is funny. Basically he ended shit with her by saying the two of them are being "sinful" lol wtf is this. She even tells me how he's not very religious so he basically just cut her off her without second thought and used this as a cover up.
The convo turns towards religion and I use this to screen her. I ask if she's more conservative and is strictly about god. She says no, that she's more moderate but believes in god. Then the lights shut off and it's dark as fuck so we head back towards her car. When we're getting closer to the car I notice she's falling behind and looking around. She says she was looking for the moon and while we walk again she pushes me towards a bush. I proceed to grab her and mess with her trying to take her phone and arrest her for being naughty playing the cop role. She's eating this up and I say something with a sexual undertone (then we make out) I'm sitting on the bench and she's over me so I get up and flip this around. Now this time she's definitely signaling she wants my dick. She's using tons of tongue and when we stop she gives me some 'fuck me eyes' (first time I've gotten those.) However she stops me,mentions that my heart is beating really fas
9 I'm thinking "oh yeah it's on when we get to the car. ) The only problem is her back seat has hella shit on it and we're forced to use the front two seats.
We get in the car an I put on some mood music again, then we make out. She's moving over the dashboard to kiss me and Is super involved in it. I go for her neck area again but she is constantly pulling back. I think i made a mistake here. I stop to try and change the song and she moves back to her seat. I build things up again and she's back on my side kissing me. I reach towards my pants to take of my keys and when she hears the sound she immediately pulls back. She crosses her arms and points her body away from me and I can tell she's in auto-rejection. I pull away then later on I try moving my hand around her body. I start from her arms down towards her hands which were resting on her thighs. On my way back up I try to rub the sides of her hips and she moves my hand away( this same bullshit is happening again from last night). At this point after maybe 5 tries and fails I don't know what to do again. I've tried the push-pull, escalation ladder but she wont let me get anywhere with her. I'm in my head now thinking " this same shit happened again two nights in a row." Then she looks at her phone and it's a text from her dad. She turns her car on and drives me back to the pizza place (FUCK.) I'm really annoyed and I just say I'll talk to her later. On her way pulling out from the parking spot she says something and tries to say bye but I don't respond.
I get home and immediately right what happens in my journal. While I'm doing this I get a text from her:
Summary So me leading the dates and building up the right emotions isn't the problem. My fundamentals are solid and I can definitely have a sexual vibe to me. I just cant move things forward with girls at the moment. They either say "they feel easy" "they just met me" or "it's too soon." From tonight I feel I need to screen girls before hand to see what they're down for. At the moment I just jump onto the girl that'll go on a date with me and really don't screen for that early on. Another thing is finding a way to escalate smoothly without being to forward. This Is actually more complicated than I thought it would be and that's magnified in that I've only been able to escalate in cars. Idk what's going to happen with her but I see no point In being her friend yet feel a sexual vibe. IF we aren't having sexual relations I see no reason for that so i'm moving on to the next one. However I still have the girl who I first failed to escalate to penetrative sex from a few weeks ago. We hung out, I planned to escalate but she says she was on her period. I don't think anything of it and got her to give me a pretty good blowjob. She even let me nut in her mouth (shit was amazing.) This was my first legit time I got off by a girl in my life, every other time was with porn only so I can definitely see progress. The only difference between her and these other two girls is that I escalated in the back seat and not the front so I'm assuming front seat escalation is shitty.
Until next time gents - BIz
Been having a lot of dates with girls I've been meeting through school and day game. However the last few dates have all been the same. I meet up with the girl, we talk and build a connection, I try to escalate, IT works for a bit then dies down and we both go home disappointed. During my observations I've pinpointed some weaknesses in my game but I'll save those for the end of the FR.
So 2 Fridays ago I met this girl at school during my afternoon class. She has a nice body, tits and ass. Her face is decent with fairly short hair in a bob style. She's also much shorter than me, 5'3" to be exact. She was working as a janitor for the school and I happened to bump into her on my way out of the bathroom. I saw her again, called her over and started talking with her. We didn't have a great connection but I had a sexual vibe with her and we planned to get food the following Tuesday ( 1 week from yesterday.) We decide to meet up as planned and I get to know her. I'm very vague with my answers (Backstory recently commented on how I should tone this down a bit or I could give girls the wrong impression.) However I deep dove her abit. She actually lives extremely close to me (down the street) and she's very sexual. During the conversation I asked her what's the wildest thing she has ever done and she says "she got caught fucking at our school in public" so I know it's on with her
Anyways the convo gets to a point where I feel it's time to kiss her. I go in and we make out lightly. I pull back and see her facing very openly towards me and she bites her lip. I see the window and move her towards her car. However she wont let me get in, saying " It's super messy." I use all kind of objections saying "well listen to music" "I need to go to my house to get a jacket" etc but it's a no go. I tell her I want ice cream from cold stone and she agrees. We sit abit then make out some more. I try pulling her inside her car but she wont unlock her doors. I suggest we sit in my car and she agrees and we end up in the back seat.I proceed to play music that turns her on and I start escalating using escalation ladders and eye contact. I also experimented with push-pull abit and things are going well. However, I go for her neck and she pulls back. This goes on a bit more but it's not going anywhere despite my constant persistence. She eventually says "she has to do a lot of homework" and we leave. I'm not worried at all because I know I'll get her the next time we meet up.
Round 2
I had actually planned to meet up with her on Tuesday but I had to flake on her because a new girl I met was only free for this day. Janitor girl was pretty upset about it but nevertheless she agreed to meet up today. I told her to meet me at this Spanish food restaurant not to far from where we live. Once I get there I have a change of taste and go for pizza. While I'm deciding on my pizza I see her walking my way. I meet her outside and give her a big hug and we talk abit. This girl is super shy as I said and I have to build up her comfort in the conversation. I tell her we're ordering pizza and she should pick what she wants. The pizza is going to take 10 minutes to finish so I tell her we'll go for a walk. We walk abit then I stop her and start making out with her. It's nothing major but I just wanted to set the mood early on in the date. We get the pizza then I find a park not to far from us and suggest we go there. This park is pretty big, filled with baseball fields, a playground and even batting cages. We eat side by side and I deep dive her abit. Having learned from my date last night I'm more straight forward with my answers. The vagueness was to much on my part and didn't help my cause. I mention that I used to be this super nervous guy a few years back and she's curious to know. I tell a short story of how I was to scared to ask a girl out in the 7th grade so I got my friend to ask for me and how I was crushed when she rejected me. Knowing she was shy she really opened up to this subject and she tells me a story about herself. After a while we laugh at the situation and we're done eating the pizza.
I then tell her I have to piss, I handle my business and we walk towards the playground. I see a swing set and see my opportunity. I sit on it and motion her to sit on my lap. Howeverm that shit was uncomfortable as fuck so I tell her get up. She then turns around and get on top of me, facing towards me. We make out, this time much more passionately, but my nuts are hurting like a bitch on the swings haha. I pick her up off me and go towards the bench then motion her again to resume the position. Things are getting exciting, I'm kissing her getting her excited but this girl's a Tease! Every few kisses she'll pullback. Knowing I should be doing that and not her, I try to gain control of the pullback kisses. We're there maybe 5 minutes then she stops me. There's some teenagers around as well so I figure to move towards a quieter place. We walk towards the baseball field and I ask how many boyfriends she's had. She says five and asks mine. I get her to guess and she says 10 (shit I wish.)I tell her my #, saying 3&1/2 and she asks me to explain the half. I say how I was with this girl in college but it was never official. I ask how many people she has had sex and she says about 6. That gets her to reveal she had a friends with benefits from school that she had been fucking a few months ago. This dude is funny. Basically he ended shit with her by saying the two of them are being "sinful" lol wtf is this. She even tells me how he's not very religious so he basically just cut her off her without second thought and used this as a cover up.
The convo turns towards religion and I use this to screen her. I ask if she's more conservative and is strictly about god. She says no, that she's more moderate but believes in god. Then the lights shut off and it's dark as fuck so we head back towards her car. When we're getting closer to the car I notice she's falling behind and looking around. She says she was looking for the moon and while we walk again she pushes me towards a bush. I proceed to grab her and mess with her trying to take her phone and arrest her for being naughty playing the cop role. She's eating this up and I say something with a sexual undertone (then we make out) I'm sitting on the bench and she's over me so I get up and flip this around. Now this time she's definitely signaling she wants my dick. She's using tons of tongue and when we stop she gives me some 'fuck me eyes' (first time I've gotten those.) However she stops me,mentions that my heart is beating really fas
9 I'm thinking "oh yeah it's on when we get to the car. ) The only problem is her back seat has hella shit on it and we're forced to use the front two seats.
We get in the car an I put on some mood music again, then we make out. She's moving over the dashboard to kiss me and Is super involved in it. I go for her neck area again but she is constantly pulling back. I think i made a mistake here. I stop to try and change the song and she moves back to her seat. I build things up again and she's back on my side kissing me. I reach towards my pants to take of my keys and when she hears the sound she immediately pulls back. She crosses her arms and points her body away from me and I can tell she's in auto-rejection. I pull away then later on I try moving my hand around her body. I start from her arms down towards her hands which were resting on her thighs. On my way back up I try to rub the sides of her hips and she moves my hand away( this same bullshit is happening again from last night). At this point after maybe 5 tries and fails I don't know what to do again. I've tried the push-pull, escalation ladder but she wont let me get anywhere with her. I'm in my head now thinking " this same shit happened again two nights in a row." Then she looks at her phone and it's a text from her dad. She turns her car on and drives me back to the pizza place (FUCK.) I'm really annoyed and I just say I'll talk to her later. On her way pulling out from the parking spot she says something and tries to say bye but I don't respond.
I get home and immediately right what happens in my journal. While I'm doing this I get a text from her:
Her: I feel bad, I;m sorry for having to leave like that but my dad texted and for a moment it seemed like you wanted sex
Me: It's kool, and I was just enjoying the moment. We didn't do anything you didn't want us to
Her: Oh ok lol, It's just cause I'm very sexual and you make me wanna rip your clothes off and ride you but I just met you and I don't want this to be a sex thing
ME: I know, I feel the same way when I'm with you but I notice your holding back
ME: I don't see how e can't still get to know each other yet still have that sexual vibe to us, but I understand where you're coming from
Her: Yeah sorry. Idk I just don't wanna do the whole friends with benefits thing again. Plus I just met you so I feel like it's too soon to have sex with you but it's hard to control myself when I'm with you
ME: Alright, well maybe I'll see u around then.
Her: oh, (ok emoji) ( peace out emoji)
Summary So me leading the dates and building up the right emotions isn't the problem. My fundamentals are solid and I can definitely have a sexual vibe to me. I just cant move things forward with girls at the moment. They either say "they feel easy" "they just met me" or "it's too soon." From tonight I feel I need to screen girls before hand to see what they're down for. At the moment I just jump onto the girl that'll go on a date with me and really don't screen for that early on. Another thing is finding a way to escalate smoothly without being to forward. This Is actually more complicated than I thought it would be and that's magnified in that I've only been able to escalate in cars. Idk what's going to happen with her but I see no point In being her friend yet feel a sexual vibe. IF we aren't having sexual relations I see no reason for that so i'm moving on to the next one. However I still have the girl who I first failed to escalate to penetrative sex from a few weeks ago. We hung out, I planned to escalate but she says she was on her period. I don't think anything of it and got her to give me a pretty good blowjob. She even let me nut in her mouth (shit was amazing.) This was my first legit time I got off by a girl in my life, every other time was with porn only so I can definitely see progress. The only difference between her and these other two girls is that I escalated in the back seat and not the front so I'm assuming front seat escalation is shitty.
Until next time gents - BIz