Hey guys, school is starting really soon so I just figured I'd post this question and see what you all think. So I'm at a school that's pretty big into Greek life and our top tier sorority ranks in the top 15 hottest sororities according to http://elitedaily.com/life/culture/hott ... s-america/. So my question is do you guys think joining a major frat (the ones that mix and mingle with the hottest sororities) would effectively make seductions more efficient by providing you with more girls in a social setting easier; or do you see joining a major frat as a way to cop out of doing tons of cold approaches. Personally, I'm a proponent of doing both (meeting some of the top tier sorority girls while also doing loads of cold approaches all over campus) but I'm curious to what other guys think.
Frat to Meet Girls: Law of Least Effort or Cop Out
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Hey BlackBolt,
I'm not old enough for this to apply to me, but I think that it is a good way to meet a lot of attractive women and practice your social circle seduction skills. I guess the high school equivalent is joining different cool groups/circles and going to their parties, and I definitely do not think that is a cop out. I think that doing this would make things a lot easier on yourself, would get you more experience and comfort in interacting with girls in a social setting, and it should be fun too.
Just make sure you don't shy away from doing cold approaches, because if you truly want to improve with women you will need to be practicing and approaching often. But as long as you continue cold approaching, I think you should be fine. Maybe some of the others have some more insight, but this is my take on this subject. Good luck!
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I'm not old enough for this to apply to me, but I think that it is a good way to meet a lot of attractive women and practice your social circle seduction skills. I guess the high school equivalent is joining different cool groups/circles and going to their parties, and I definitely do not think that is a cop out. I think that doing this would make things a lot easier on yourself, would get you more experience and comfort in interacting with girls in a social setting, and it should be fun too.
Just make sure you don't shy away from doing cold approaches, because if you truly want to improve with women you will need to be practicing and approaching often. But as long as you continue cold approaching, I think you should be fine. Maybe some of the others have some more insight, but this is my take on this subject. Good luck!
-Pato
Hey Plato, I totally agree. I think being in a big college frat would be an easy and cool way to meet tons of girls in addition to going out and meeting the good old "cold approach" way 
. Just curious, how is the whole "moving fast" thing going for you in high school? I know when I was in high school, I didn't have a car or a place of my own so it would've been nearly impossible to move fast after a date with a girl unless everything had been planned perfectly. I had a girlfriend for 2 years though so that made things a helluva lot easier.
. Just curious, how is the whole "moving fast" thing going for you in high school? I know when I was in high school, I didn't have a car or a place of my own so it would've been nearly impossible to move fast after a date with a girl unless everything had been planned perfectly. I had a girlfriend for 2 years though so that made things a helluva lot easier.
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I can definitely see how not having a car could be some problem, especially for me because I live a good 30 minute walk away from the popular attractions. I haven't done too much so far, because at the moment I don't have a car either (and not even my license yet, but that should be solved within a couple weeks), but I will be able to drive one of my parents' cars fairly often. So once I can start driving myself around, I'm going to be a lot more active with approaches, going out just for the sake of meeting girls, and more. As of now I have been pretty much tied down to parties, but I haven't been to one of those in a little while. I don't have a house of my own, but I don't think that should be too much of a problem because I can always take the girls down to the basement or up to my room.
What I'm planning to do is make some friends that are cool and get to parties, meet girls there, and kind of build up my status. I will also be approaching girls outside of school at malls, stores, and wherever else. I don't really know how much success I'll have moving fast, especially when it comes to sex (I'm expecting a good amount of resistance here). I'm guessing moving fast will be much easier at the parties than during cold approach though, so I'm making it a priority to get invited to these parties.
What I'm planning to do is make some friends that are cool and get to parties, meet girls there, and kind of build up my status. I will also be approaching girls outside of school at malls, stores, and wherever else. I don't really know how much success I'll have moving fast, especially when it comes to sex (I'm expecting a good amount of resistance here). I'm guessing moving fast will be much easier at the parties than during cold approach though, so I'm making it a priority to get invited to these parties.
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BlackBolt,
I was in a frat for a semester in college. It is definitely a great way to learn to communicate and escalate with women. It won't really give you the "true" experience of doing a cold approach, but you'll feel much more comfortable doing cold approaches after college if you've gotten used to meeting and talking to new, attractive women at a rapid pace. And yes, the girls in sororities are quite attractive.
That being said, your only concern should be that the frat doesn't get in the way of your studies. They do make you do a lot of "bullshit" that they write off as "brotherhood bond-building" type of stuff (that I never really believed in, but I went with it anyway) that can get in the way of actually getting the grades you want in your classes. For this reason, I recommend rushing your freshman year if you can before the amount of work you have piles up with your upper-division classes as a junior or senior.
Once the rush quarter/semester is over, you can generally be a lot more laid back and only go to the social events that interest you.
Hope this helps! =)
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I was in a frat for a semester in college. It is definitely a great way to learn to communicate and escalate with women. It won't really give you the "true" experience of doing a cold approach, but you'll feel much more comfortable doing cold approaches after college if you've gotten used to meeting and talking to new, attractive women at a rapid pace. And yes, the girls in sororities are quite attractive.
That being said, your only concern should be that the frat doesn't get in the way of your studies. They do make you do a lot of "bullshit" that they write off as "brotherhood bond-building" type of stuff (that I never really believed in, but I went with it anyway) that can get in the way of actually getting the grades you want in your classes. For this reason, I recommend rushing your freshman year if you can before the amount of work you have piles up with your upper-division classes as a junior or senior.
Once the rush quarter/semester is over, you can generally be a lot more laid back and only go to the social events that interest you.
Hope this helps! =)
- Franco
pato123 said:
Yeah that sounds like a solid plan, you'd hopefully be a social circle pro by the time you reach college. Keep me posted on how your progress goes!
Franco said:
Unfortunately I'm going into my sophomore year. I wasn't completely sold on the frat lifestyle yet. You mentioned you were in a frat for only one semester, why is that?
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BB,
I joined it at the end of my junior year as I was starting to get really busy. I unfortunately did not have all that much time for it my senior year while I was trying to finish my classes and graduate. That's why I recommend doing the rush period as early as possible so that you actually have some time to enjoy it.
Of course, I was also a Computer Engineering major, so the workload was extremely tedious toward the end of my college career!
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I joined it at the end of my junior year as I was starting to get really busy. I unfortunately did not have all that much time for it my senior year while I was trying to finish my classes and graduate. That's why I recommend doing the rush period as early as possible so that you actually have some time to enjoy it.
Of course, I was also a Computer Engineering major, so the workload was extremely tedious toward the end of my college career!
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I'm in a fraternity and there have been a ton of benefits, especially with being the top one on campus. It gives you opportunities to meet girls and have an exclusive event with them. My school does greek week and we were with the best sorority on campus, so I enjoyed that a lot . And I don't think it is a cop out because either way, you should be doing all types of approaches. The only cop out is not approaching.
But if you are just going in for the girls, I think that you might be wasting your money. Fraternity life is about a lot more than just parties and girls. You can get plenty of those two without joining a fraternity.
. And I don't think it is a cop out because either way, you should be doing all types of approaches. The only cop out is not approaching.But if you are just going in for the girls, I think that you might be wasting your money. Fraternity life is about a lot more than just parties and girls. You can get plenty of those two without joining a fraternity.