FUNDAMENTAL - investment..

[girlsfollow]

I think this is something fundamental about getting investment that may confuse many guys - there is a subtlety to getting some girls to invest which is difficult to grasp... I have no issues with some girls but others just seem to be resolute in this area...so ..Pushing for/encouraging acts...:

So we all know we should be dominant and push for the more dominant sex acts with a girl asap... A problem I've had in the past and currently with one girl is that when I push for something it has the opposite effect - they say they don't like to feel pushed into doing something, it increases their resistance - they genuinely love doing things of their own accord and any pushing makes them resent it. Two examples:

1- If you seem to push for a BJ, something she'd not normally consider a big deal - she then puts up a big wall against it....(more detail here: viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2502&p=11268#p11268)

2- This is not just related to sex - its also things like - she would happily have brought over some cakes as a surprise present for me but because I said she should bring over some food (in this case maybe I needed to be a little more playful in my command) she then totally closed off and refused to even come over once....

She has said specifically the sex stuff is due to her not feeling close enough to me/trusting me - she says that she let her bf do whatever he wanted with her because she knew him well and trusted him - she says she just can't let go like that otherwise...

The only explanation I can think of at the moment is that she doesn't see me as dominant enough at the moment - and hence refuses to take commands from someone she sees as "below" her? - In which case how do I change that? I've pushed through massive amounts of LMR twice now and had her finish, I've persisted and let her chase....

 

[Flames]

I've been working/looking at investment a lot recently I think what you maybe trying to do is push for investment with someone who's already prepared to invest on their own (and most girls will be like this eventually anyway).

It could be the level of investment your asking for, if she (using your example) is looking to buy you a cake, and you then ask her to arrange 'food' that could be misconstrued as having to sort out all the food, and thus have to invest more than she was going to do.

Put it this way if you went to an owner of a business and said I've been looking into your company and I think I'd like to invest 10,000 grubleflops, and he goes to you well I'd like 20,000 grubleflops (or I don't want that I want 5000 fingleblurbs) you'd be both a bit suspicious and slightly offended.

What you should do IMHO is be 'testing for' investment, not really trying to force it. If you force it then somewhere down the line your just going end up with another problem, buyers remorse (BR) or last minute resistance (LMR), something like that. Also the investment needs to be balanced nobody is just going to keep investing without getting anything back (or potentially get). So also look to see what your investing in her.

You'll find that any women who is really interested will eventually invest 'something', however small, sooner or later. They may even just do something for you and take something out of it to decrease te value of it (in a token way). An example would be "Would you like a cup of tea while I'm making one?"

There's probably a load more I could say but I'll leave that for another day.