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Are there any pickup artists who aren't considered good looking (as in if they were in a crowd, they wouldn't stand out because of looks alone and would fade away).

I have gotten remarks that I am not actually good looking (These were from relatives) and most jokes about me are about my looks so that's how I know.

I would like to adopt the game style of guys who are very average in the face department because we can relate then.
 

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Become better looking.

Workout and get to a lean bodyfat with the goal of also having some muscle mass. You don’t need to be huge, think Fight Club Brad Pitt. The low body fat will make your face look better and more masculine.

Next fox anything that you think makes you ugly. Bad teeth? Bad skin? Fix that.

Get a good hairstyle (or wear a cool hat) and facial hair that both frames your face well. Don’t underestimate the effect this step can have.

Stand up straight and have good posture.

Dress very well. This doesn’t mean you have to wear a suit but dress stylish and go for an attractive stereotype. Make sure the colors go with your skin tone and fit very well.

This will all take some effort but it’s worth it!

You don’t have to be a male 10 to lay hot women but you do need to be cute enough that you don’t elicit cognitive dissonance within their mind. It’s like a roller coaster, there is a height threshold for you to ride. With women there is a looks threshold and while it’s different with all women, it’s probably not as high as you might think.

Using what I said above almost any guy can become at least “cute.” From there it’s all about your effort in meeting women and how good your “game” is.
 

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Follow up… as for “ugly dating coaches” I can’t think of any LEGIT dating coaches who are ugly. Many of them are just average looking but none that come to mind are universally ugly.

Most of the RSD crew were in shape and dressed decent. Tyler was probably the worst looking but even he wasn’t universally ugly.

Mystery is tall and slim and doesn’t have a bad face.

Chase is a handsome dude.

Zan could be an actor.

Cory Skyy was a legit good looking guy.

Josh/Swinggcat is handsome.

Chris/60YOC is not naturally good looking but he is in decent shape and nails the sexy stereotype look well.

Teevester is a good looking guy.

Rob Judge is a GREAT example of going from “meh” to very attractive. He was kinda dorky looking years ago and no dude could be a model.

Vin DiCarlo is a decent looking guy.

Richard/Gambler is a legit handsome dude.

Adam Lyons has always been decent looking.

I could go on and on but the whole “looks don’t matter thing” is misleading. Looks cease to matter if you meet her looks threshold. Thankfully this isn’t hard if you put in effort.
 

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hey warped mindless ,
Let me ask you this ? If women check you out in public in regular basis, you’d assume you are good looking . Checking out here means:
1- look at you multiple times
2- look you up and down
3- turning their head to look at you
4- look at you with dilated eye pupils

This is a serious question ‍♂️. It sounds dump I know
 

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Are there any pickup artists who aren't considered good looking (as in if they were in a crowd, they wouldn't stand out because of looks alone and would fade away).

I have gotten remarks that I am not actually good looking (These were from relatives) and most jokes about me are about my looks so that's how I know.

I would like to adopt the game style of guys who are very average in the face department because we can relate then.
Where your relatives hot girls or male members? Cause women dont talk like this unless in elementary school

 

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Are there any pickup artists who aren't considered good looking (as in if they were in a crowd, they wouldn't stand out because of looks alone and would fade away).

I have gotten remarks that I am not actually good looking (These were from relatives) and most jokes about me are about my looks so that's how I know.

I would like to adopt the game style of guys who are very average in the face department because we can relate then.

Imo, most of the Mystery and RSD crew are ugly to nondescript. But most of them have very big personalities that they broadcast and bring people in.

Julien is the taller awkward kid, Tyler is the goofy hyper kid (who probably has autism).

Mystery looks like a circus freak, and very much leans into that.

Style was always the shorter bald guy with a big nose the dominates his face.
The Simple Pickup guys were all average height (and average means below in the minds of women) and did exceedingly well.

In the new generation, Playing with Fire uses shades and good angles on Twitter - but he looks weird on video. I think Waffles, the Black Pill/Lookism King, called him out on the deception, but PwF is still getting laid.

Fluid Social has a lazy eye.

Austen Summers is nondescript to me.

Both Fresh and Fit are average looking even with hitting the gym. (compare them to The Red Pill Avengers who are all pretty boy jocks)

Coach Kyle looks cool now, but he took hair growth stuff religiously to fix his balding head and grew out a beard.

Speaking of beard fishing, famous guys like basketball player James Harden and Internet playboy Dan Bilzerian have large symmetrical beards to make us forget about how they actually look.

And to take it further, any ugly man in Hollywood that has made it, his literal personality and behavior as a nobody got him there. (And now they use nepotism to put their kids to work).

Being ugly in the face is not an excuse.
Being poor is not an excuse.
Being fat is not an excuse.
Being Black, Latino, Asian, Indian, Muslim, pasty white or ginger, is not an excuse.

Nothing about your looks ultimately matters. You can look out into the world everyday and see couples where the guy isn't all that, but his girl is beautiful. (And usually in her case she is looks maximizing 99% of the time).

Getting fit and having much better style will make getting laid easier and you are not allowed to slack ever - but meeting the conventional visual standard is not related to your GAME.

There are plenty of examples of guys online that look great but fumble the ball or can't make anything happen.

How you approach, what you say, how you make her feel with your eyes, with your silence, with your touch, by how other people perceive you....

Is she feeling tension, does she not know how to respond, is she emotionally engaged in you? Etc.

And in the grand scheme of things, the bar isn't that high. These chicks don't have that many real world options when it comes to that irreplaceable offline real world interaction.

And what gurus tend to hide, the sex with a very attractive woman rarely meets expectations. (it can, but often that's usually your leadership, not something inherent to her looks).

Relationship quality, even short ones, don't correlate to how attractive she is either. You may get treated differently in public, but at home her God damned hair is all over the shower and clogging the drain. And she expects you to fix her life, or she's constantly worried and thinks that you've always got one foot out the door...

WIA
 

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Imo, most of the Mystery and RSD crew are ugly to nondescript. But most of them have very big personalities that they broadcast and bring people in.

Julien is the taller awkward kid, Tyler is the goofy hyper kid (who probably has autism).

Mystery looks like a circus freak, and very much leans into that.

Style was always the shorter bald guy with a big nose the dominates his face.
The Simple Pickup guys were all average height (and average means below in the minds of women) and did exceedingly well.

In the new generation, Playing with Fire uses shades and good angles on Twitter - but he looks weird on video. I think Waffles, the Black Pill/Lookism King, called him out on the deception, but PwF is still getting laid.

Fluid Social has a lazy eye.

Austen Summers is nondescript to me.

Both Fresh and Fit are average looking even with hitting the gym. (compare them to The Red Pill Avengers who are all pretty boy jocks)

Coach Kyle looks cool now, but he took hair growth stuff religiously to fix his balding head and grew out a beard.

Speaking of beard fishing, famous guys like basketball player James Harden and Internet playboy Dan Bilzerian have large symmetrical beards to make us forget about how they actually look.

And to take it further, any ugly man in Hollywood that has made it, his literal personality and behavior as a nobody got him there. (And now they use nepotism to put their kids to work).

Being ugly in the face is not an excuse.
Being poor is not an excuse.
Being fat is not an excuse.
Being Black, Latino, Asian, Indian, Muslim, pasty white or ginger, is not an excuse.

Nothing about your looks ultimately matters. You can look out into the world everyday and see couples where the guy isn't all that, but his girl is beautiful. (And usually in her case she is looks maximizing 99% of the time).

Getting fit and having much better style will make getting laid easier and you are not allowed to slack ever - but meeting the conventional visual standard is not related to your GAME.

There are plenty of examples of guys online that look great but fumble the ball or can't make anything happen.

How you approach, what you say, how you make her feel with your eyes, with your silence, with your touch, by how other people perceive you....

Is she feeling tension, does she not know how to respond, is she emotionally engaged in you? Etc.

And in the grand scheme of things, the bar isn't that high. These chicks don't have that many real world options when it comes to that irreplaceable offline real world interaction.

And what gurus tend to hide, the sex with a very attractive woman rarely meets expectations. (it can, but often that's usually your leadership, not something inherent to her looks).

Relationship quality, even short ones, don't correlate to how attractive she is either. You may get treated differently in public, but at home her God damned hair is all over the shower and clogging the drain. And she expects you to fix her life, or she's constantly worried and thinks that you've always got one foot out the door...

WIA


^ Yeah every time i see a post "game guy for ugly guys" the translation is "game style for lazy guys or guys that are looking to cope with some type of excuse".... Also a lack of understanding of women psyche....


 
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Imo, most of the Mystery and RSD crew are ugly to nondescript. But most of them have very big personalities that they broadcast and bring people in.

Julien is the taller awkward kid, Tyler is the goofy hyper kid (who probably has autism).

Mystery looks like a circus freak, and very much leans into that.

Style was always the shorter bald guy with a big nose the dominates his face.
The Simple Pickup guys were all average height (and average means below in the minds of women) and did exceedingly well.

In the new generation, Playing with Fire uses shades and good angles on Twitter - but he looks weird on video. I think Waffles, the Black Pill/Lookism King, called him out on the deception, but PwF is still getting laid.

Fluid Social has a lazy eye.

Austen Summers is nondescript to me.

Both Fresh and Fit are average looking even with hitting the gym. (compare them to The Red Pill Avengers who are all pretty boy jocks)

Coach Kyle looks cool now, but he took hair growth stuff religiously to fix his balding head and grew out a beard.

Speaking of beard fishing, famous guys like basketball player James Harden and Internet playboy Dan Bilzerian have large symmetrical beards to make us forget about how they actually look.

And to take it further, any ugly man in Hollywood that has made it, his literal personality and behavior as a nobody got him there. (And now they use nepotism to put their kids to work).

Being ugly in the face is not an excuse.
Being poor is not an excuse.
Being fat is not an excuse.
Being Black, Latino, Asian, Indian, Muslim, pasty white or ginger, is not an excuse.

Nothing about your looks ultimately matters. You can look out into the world everyday and see couples where the guy isn't all that, but his girl is beautiful. (And usually in her case she is looks maximizing 99% of the time).

Getting fit and having much better style will make getting laid easier and you are not allowed to slack ever - but meeting the conventional visual standard is not related to your GAME.

There are plenty of examples of guys online that look great but fumble the ball or can't make anything happen.

How you approach, what you say, how you make her feel with your eyes, with your silence, with your touch, by how other people perceive you....

Is she feeling tension, does she not know how to respond, is she emotionally engaged in you? Etc.

And in the grand scheme of things, the bar isn't that high. These chicks don't have that many real world options when it comes to that irreplaceable offline real world interaction.

And what gurus tend to hide, the sex with a very attractive woman rarely meets expectations. (it can, but often that's usually your leadership, not something inherent to her looks).

Relationship quality, even short ones, don't correlate to how attractive she is either. You may get treated differently in public, but at home her God damned hair is all over the shower and clogging the drain. And she expects you to fix her life, or she's constantly worried and thinks that you've always got one foot out the door...

WIA
It's not about excuses.
I know I have work twice as hard as average guys to get laid hence I am looking to emulate the style of below-average or average looking guys game.

A good looking guy can drive a girl to auto rejection if he doesn't tone down his teasing but then for someone like me I don't think I have risk of pushing girls into auto rejection but I do have to make sure to keep attainability as low as possible to compensate.

Hence the whole ugly or average pickup artist pickup artist I am looking for for influence.
 

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Where your relatives hot girls or male members? Cause women dont talk like this unless in elementary school
I don't get the whole "you are cute/hot/etc" complement from women until I am close to sleeping with them.

Also yeah I get a lot of jokes about my looks from males. (I have a big droopy and bent nose and have buck tooth with very high hairline).

I am trying to grow a beard to distract from them right now.
 

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I don't get the whole "you are cute/hot/etc" complement from women until I am close to sleeping with them.

Also yeah I get a lot of jokes about my looks from males. (I have a big droopy and bent nose and have buck tooth with very high hairline).

I am trying to grow a beard to distract from them right now.

^ are you trying to seduce dudes????? Cause if not what they think of you is irrelevant unless you are a closet homo, then if you are trying to get dick yes.... no homo...

Again dude, watch the video and article i posted... Being attractive is totally in your control... also please read this:

 

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I did look and style evaluations as "free bonus" on my courses for over a decade.

No one who bothers to find the community is great looking, and anyone with an obvious outrageous problem already knows their issue (are 300lbs, look like Beetlejuice from Howard Stern show etc).

Pretty much always just guys who don't know where they stand, average and think are ugly, or average and think they are hot and don't get why not crushing it. Unless crazy, socially retarded, weird, pussies etc (they can't even get laid in a social circle by women of same ilk).

Kind of what community/game IS, is punching out of your weight class looks wise a few notches, that's pickup vs just hooking up. What all "styles" should accomplish if worth much.


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I don't get the whole "you are cute/hot/etc" complement from women until I am close to sleeping with them.

Also yeah I get a lot of jokes about my looks from males. (I have a big droopy and bent nose and have buck tooth with very high hairline).

I am trying to grow a beard to distract from them right now.
When I was a young teenager most of the negative remarks about my looks came from guys in school. And I didn't get attention from girls so I believed that it was true and I was ugly and undesireable. Then later i'd meet girls who liked being around me,had some interest in me and some who even told me I was cute or had a nice smile and it was really suprising because this wasn't stuff I was used to.

So then I realized all of these bum ass niggas talking about my looks and clothes were losers and their opinion was never relevant in the first place. It's just I didn't know any better. So avoid identifying yourself as a "ugly guy". It's not helpful and it's probably a bit exaggerated.
 

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Bilzerian w/o beard

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