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Genuine Interest or Bust!?

Zoro

Cro-Magnon Man
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I am finally approaching girls regularly. (Moved to a city with more cute girls!)

And I'm running into an issue. I have decent results with "my niche" of girls. That is the spiritual, nature loving, astrology studying, crystal collector, "we are all one" type girl. I think I do well with these girls because I come across as an authority figure on these subjects.

But I'm flubbing it with most other girls. I can tell pretty easily which girls are of "my niche" and I have an element of genuine interest in talking with them that goes deeper than their looks.

Cool.

But those other cute girls, who I'm sure I can receive value from and provide it back, the interest is purely physical initially. Nothing wrong with that, but I am having a hard time holding a conversation, building a connection, hell sometimes getting them to give me a moments chance.

I am going to start experimenting with direct openers with these girls since that is where my genuine interest lays and that seems to be vital in my successes.

Something still feels off, anyone else experience something like this?

Since I'm still green with approaching regularly there are still a lot of kinks I'm working out (body language, vocal tonality, vibe, conversation, etc.) but it's like night and day between girls in my niche where I feel like a natural and get results every so often, and girls outside it whom I feel like an awkward PUA.

PS I asked a similar question before and it seems I need to expand my ability to relate to people with different lifestyles. Something I have a hard time doing. Any tips on that would help too.
 

Sophisticated Gent

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J,

It is 110% mind set. You have this preconceived notion of what these girls are going to be like so you are nervous. When you approach them let things flow naturally. Giver her the direct opener, ask her name, give her yours, ask her a question that is relevant to the surroundings or her and let it flow from there. Naturally ask her questions about her. Let her talk. You will find common threads.

We all have a tendency to overting these things.

SGent
 

Zoro

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Can't argue with that. Just went out today and talked to some girls who weren't that niche type and it was pleasant. Too bad they weren't available.

I see it goes deeper than just preconceived ideas about these girls. I'm digging up some deep irrational fears and seeing how I take life a little too seriously. I was able to embrace a carefree attitude that I haven't felt in a while. It feels very good to say the least.
 

Chase

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J Wick-

Just means you need to get more comfortable with that niche.

Any time you have a certain niche you want to perform better with, the best thing you can do is take a crash course in that niche - start going where its people hang out, do the things they do, make friends from the niche (guys, girls, you name it), and just learn it really well. Read up on it. Do whatever you can to up your exposure.

With time you start identifying with it more, and have an easier and easier time gelling with it. Once you take a girlfriend from that niche you'll typically have it pretty easy with girls like that ever after.

Just be advised that as you become more like one niche, you'll typically lose some of your edge in other niches (though you can make up for lost ground overall by improving game & fundamentals).

Chase
 
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