Eh, what happened here? It is awfully quiet...
I was just reading comment from Ambience about "Getting (Almost) any girl you want", and was going to reply... Here is some collection of thoughts, perhaps disorganized as I'm not in the mood to rewrite it:
So agreed, it is quite powerful stuff, old flames between you and girl work quite well. IMO, you may not get exactly every girl that you really want, but you can get many girls that you want. I'm guestimating you can get 70-80% girls that you want, it is doable under right circumstances... Which is a great number, quite amazing...
Where to begin... If you invest some quality emotions into a girl, she will usually run away from you, at least at first. Perhaps you appear too needy, perhaps the emotions generated by your high interest in her are too heavy on her... I guess, overall it is just too much for her, she can't stand it. But then she usually comes back, even after years...
In essence, it is strong push and pull technique, already discussed here before... You push, you invest lots of interest into her, you let her know that you really want her and are serious about her - and then you pull back. In really, she usually runs away first because you are still pushing... you don't even have time to pull back because in your mind everything is still going quite well, but it is what it is. The important thing is that it works - she usually comes back. That all assuming that you have all the predispositions described here many many times, such as great fundamentals, independence, high value man, balls, leading, having other choices and so forth...
Sometimes you can even screw with that girl's head so badly, that she will run away just to clear her mind, and then she will come back to find out what was actually going on, whether what she experienced (your intense interest in her) was even real. Because it is just so different from her experience with other guys... She has to think about what happened for weeks, maybe months, and you won't most likely hear from her during this time. Which sucks, because you become to believe that she doesn't care about you at all. Which may be true, but at the same time it most likely isn't - she usually remembers very well, and many many details... Perhaps she goes for some sort of mental cleansing, who really knows what is going in in their minds. Believe it or not, she will even change her personality for you, she will try to mold herself to your expectations about her... You want her to be enthusiastic and exciting? Interested in XYZ? Being more assertive? Or horny? She will be, all just for you... Amazing stuff...
Once she comes back, and if you remain persistent (keep your solid frame, keep your high interest in her), she has no other choice than to fall to the same mindset again... But this time it is much stronger experience for her because she made conscious choice to come back and she is expecting you to behave in certain way - meaning you are still quite interested in her, which in reality may be quite different story, but let's assume that you still are...
That is how you win her, with persistence and high interest in her... You win her when your frame doesn't shift even an inch over long period of time... That is it, once she comes back you can have her, she will open to you, and that is the whole point. Is it efficient and easy? Is it 100% reliable? Nope. None of these. But it is doable. Perhaps the main problem is that after some time your interest in her will also drop. You may have regrets that you invested so much into one girl and have nothing in return, which honestly sucks. She may eventually come back yet you no longer want her now, but that is another story...
So overall it is not the best strategy but it works, and it works well with high yield of return...
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Some times the situation may get quite scary, that is when she is in otherwise serious relationship, perhaps married, and start talking divorce in front of you, or more boldly - directly with you. She may contact you after long time, then cut the contact off again, and next thing you know she broke up with BF, or worse - divorced. You know that this is the point when crap is becoming too serious, she is already making plans in her head and seriously considering you as a potential mate. Beware, you don't really want to go there. Too many emotions, too much drama, too much headache... You are getting too much entangled with one girl... She actually did it, she got divorced, and you somehow feel that it is all because of you, even if she doesn't really advertise it that way... That's when you realize it is time to run, because you now can have exactly what you wanted... Except not really... You have no other choice than disappear from her horizon, yet she may still chase you around for some while, dreaming about you, texting you, being all clingy and needy... Ugh, you really want to cut her off cold because she is so annoying, but feel bad for her at the same time because you know how it hurts when you can't get what you want, and what was within your reach...
I'll tell you another quite important thing: she has no remorse to dump the guy that she is with; she will turn cold towards him and get rid of him in no time, even make him the villain that caused the break up. It's of course good if you are the guy she wants now, but it really sucks if you are the one she is dumping... Some guys get so desperate they fall in severe depression, even thinking about taking their own lives... I've seen couple physically strong guys in late 20's and early 30's, best time of their lives - they were dumped by GF or wife, and they literally collapsed... It is actually quite disgusting how mentally and emotionally weak we men became... Perhaps the weak should just voluntary die, there is no true mercy in this World; this planet wasn't designed for weak to survive...
Another thing, I heard girls talking fun about their serious long tern BF's, they actually wanted to sell one of his testicles for money. It was more fun but the real intention was there. The sad thing that the poor guy would actually do it, just to keep her around and make her happy... That is how brainwashed many guys are today, they would sell their own ball to make that one silly pussy happy - while she doesn't really give a crap about them at first place...
This is very real, and it is happening quite often. You also have young girls, early 20's, who are married just to secure their good provider and show their 'good girl face', while they are willing to fuck their brains out on the side with the right guy... Who would ever think? Unheard of... Of course, nobody can ever find out, she could not live with the label slut stamped to her forehead... Those hubbies are usually totally clueless. He is "in love" with her and she keeps him in that way... Then the girl goes quite happily about her live, goes to Sunday church, family gathering, playing nice and honest wife, as if nothing happened...
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I'll tell you, the girls have absolutely no respect for what we summarize here under expression Beta guy. They make it seem that they do because Beta boy is usually a great provider who makes her life quite easy, but they don't really give a damn about such guy...
The situations changes once they realize you are different than other guys, say more Alpha-ish. I don't really like the expression Alpha, but it just nicely summarizes the characteristics that are being described here, so what the heck, why not. Depending on situation, at first they might test you, perhaps to see how solid your "alpha" character really is. Some tests could be quite harsh, they may try to disrespect you in front of others, in public, put you down, play on your feelings, test you if you fall in love with them and so forth, but once they realize that you are solid and nothing they tried doesn't really move you, the situation changes rapidly. You will get open offers from girls you expect it the least. You will have girls begging you to give you BJ and deep throats, begging you to do whatever you want to do to them. They will submit 100% to you. You will get married women coming after you and begging you to fuck them, they will call you, they will invite you out (and not the other way). They will be sending you their naked pictures from bathroom, fucking themselves with dildo just as you told them to, while their Beta hubby is clueless, watching TV just couple feet away... It doesn't even seem real, till you experience it yourself... and that is the Matrix we live in...
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So don't give up brothers... the road is not always easy, there are many thorns of frustration, you will be painfully rejected many times by woman that you feels is amazing match, there will be times when you want to give up and collapse like a little boy with thumb in your mouth, there will be times when you might be depressed for months and believe that there is just something wrong with you because you just can't get laid...
But know, KNOW that sweet fruits of constant effort and PERSISTENCE are also there...
I was just reading comment from Ambience about "Getting (Almost) any girl you want", and was going to reply... Here is some collection of thoughts, perhaps disorganized as I'm not in the mood to rewrite it:
So agreed, it is quite powerful stuff, old flames between you and girl work quite well. IMO, you may not get exactly every girl that you really want, but you can get many girls that you want. I'm guestimating you can get 70-80% girls that you want, it is doable under right circumstances... Which is a great number, quite amazing...
Where to begin... If you invest some quality emotions into a girl, she will usually run away from you, at least at first. Perhaps you appear too needy, perhaps the emotions generated by your high interest in her are too heavy on her... I guess, overall it is just too much for her, she can't stand it. But then she usually comes back, even after years...
In essence, it is strong push and pull technique, already discussed here before... You push, you invest lots of interest into her, you let her know that you really want her and are serious about her - and then you pull back. In really, she usually runs away first because you are still pushing... you don't even have time to pull back because in your mind everything is still going quite well, but it is what it is. The important thing is that it works - she usually comes back. That all assuming that you have all the predispositions described here many many times, such as great fundamentals, independence, high value man, balls, leading, having other choices and so forth...
Sometimes you can even screw with that girl's head so badly, that she will run away just to clear her mind, and then she will come back to find out what was actually going on, whether what she experienced (your intense interest in her) was even real. Because it is just so different from her experience with other guys... She has to think about what happened for weeks, maybe months, and you won't most likely hear from her during this time. Which sucks, because you become to believe that she doesn't care about you at all. Which may be true, but at the same time it most likely isn't - she usually remembers very well, and many many details... Perhaps she goes for some sort of mental cleansing, who really knows what is going in in their minds. Believe it or not, she will even change her personality for you, she will try to mold herself to your expectations about her... You want her to be enthusiastic and exciting? Interested in XYZ? Being more assertive? Or horny? She will be, all just for you... Amazing stuff...
Once she comes back, and if you remain persistent (keep your solid frame, keep your high interest in her), she has no other choice than to fall to the same mindset again... But this time it is much stronger experience for her because she made conscious choice to come back and she is expecting you to behave in certain way - meaning you are still quite interested in her, which in reality may be quite different story, but let's assume that you still are...
That is how you win her, with persistence and high interest in her... You win her when your frame doesn't shift even an inch over long period of time... That is it, once she comes back you can have her, she will open to you, and that is the whole point. Is it efficient and easy? Is it 100% reliable? Nope. None of these. But it is doable. Perhaps the main problem is that after some time your interest in her will also drop. You may have regrets that you invested so much into one girl and have nothing in return, which honestly sucks. She may eventually come back yet you no longer want her now, but that is another story...
So overall it is not the best strategy but it works, and it works well with high yield of return...
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Some times the situation may get quite scary, that is when she is in otherwise serious relationship, perhaps married, and start talking divorce in front of you, or more boldly - directly with you. She may contact you after long time, then cut the contact off again, and next thing you know she broke up with BF, or worse - divorced. You know that this is the point when crap is becoming too serious, she is already making plans in her head and seriously considering you as a potential mate. Beware, you don't really want to go there. Too many emotions, too much drama, too much headache... You are getting too much entangled with one girl... She actually did it, she got divorced, and you somehow feel that it is all because of you, even if she doesn't really advertise it that way... That's when you realize it is time to run, because you now can have exactly what you wanted... Except not really... You have no other choice than disappear from her horizon, yet she may still chase you around for some while, dreaming about you, texting you, being all clingy and needy... Ugh, you really want to cut her off cold because she is so annoying, but feel bad for her at the same time because you know how it hurts when you can't get what you want, and what was within your reach...
I'll tell you another quite important thing: she has no remorse to dump the guy that she is with; she will turn cold towards him and get rid of him in no time, even make him the villain that caused the break up. It's of course good if you are the guy she wants now, but it really sucks if you are the one she is dumping... Some guys get so desperate they fall in severe depression, even thinking about taking their own lives... I've seen couple physically strong guys in late 20's and early 30's, best time of their lives - they were dumped by GF or wife, and they literally collapsed... It is actually quite disgusting how mentally and emotionally weak we men became... Perhaps the weak should just voluntary die, there is no true mercy in this World; this planet wasn't designed for weak to survive...
Another thing, I heard girls talking fun about their serious long tern BF's, they actually wanted to sell one of his testicles for money. It was more fun but the real intention was there. The sad thing that the poor guy would actually do it, just to keep her around and make her happy... That is how brainwashed many guys are today, they would sell their own ball to make that one silly pussy happy - while she doesn't really give a crap about them at first place...
This is very real, and it is happening quite often. You also have young girls, early 20's, who are married just to secure their good provider and show their 'good girl face', while they are willing to fuck their brains out on the side with the right guy... Who would ever think? Unheard of... Of course, nobody can ever find out, she could not live with the label slut stamped to her forehead... Those hubbies are usually totally clueless. He is "in love" with her and she keeps him in that way... Then the girl goes quite happily about her live, goes to Sunday church, family gathering, playing nice and honest wife, as if nothing happened...
-------------------
I'll tell you, the girls have absolutely no respect for what we summarize here under expression Beta guy. They make it seem that they do because Beta boy is usually a great provider who makes her life quite easy, but they don't really give a damn about such guy...
The situations changes once they realize you are different than other guys, say more Alpha-ish. I don't really like the expression Alpha, but it just nicely summarizes the characteristics that are being described here, so what the heck, why not. Depending on situation, at first they might test you, perhaps to see how solid your "alpha" character really is. Some tests could be quite harsh, they may try to disrespect you in front of others, in public, put you down, play on your feelings, test you if you fall in love with them and so forth, but once they realize that you are solid and nothing they tried doesn't really move you, the situation changes rapidly. You will get open offers from girls you expect it the least. You will have girls begging you to give you BJ and deep throats, begging you to do whatever you want to do to them. They will submit 100% to you. You will get married women coming after you and begging you to fuck them, they will call you, they will invite you out (and not the other way). They will be sending you their naked pictures from bathroom, fucking themselves with dildo just as you told them to, while their Beta hubby is clueless, watching TV just couple feet away... It doesn't even seem real, till you experience it yourself... and that is the Matrix we live in...
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So don't give up brothers... the road is not always easy, there are many thorns of frustration, you will be painfully rejected many times by woman that you feels is amazing match, there will be times when you want to give up and collapse like a little boy with thumb in your mouth, there will be times when you might be depressed for months and believe that there is just something wrong with you because you just can't get laid...
But know, KNOW that sweet fruits of constant effort and PERSISTENCE are also there...
Nah i am kidding.