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Get your "type" by hating and dismissing your "type".

Indian Race Troll (IRT)

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After making my post a while back on how I managed to see success with the kinds of women I was sexually attracted to, I got about eight good PMs from guys about it. Instead of answering PMs one by one for a unique situation, I wanted to share how I went from struggling with my type to almost exclusively fucking them.

For anyone that missed my story, a quick summary.

I am a white guy but very very swarthy, get told I look like Jimmy Garropolo (49ers QB) a good deal. Growing up, I always had a thing for white women with that look, think Monica Bellucci, Emily Ratajkowski, Olivia Culpo, Gal Gadot, and Shannon Elizabeth (my first ever fap). Dark/brown hair, tanned skin, and white was exactly my type. Where I was growing up in the south, I found that most of those women preferred men that either looked like Chase or were blond haired Viking looking. Guys who looked like me on the other hand got with blondes, redheads, and even women who were not white as opposed to those kinds of women. Biology had rules I guess, there is stuff out there about gene mixing, but I was not a fan of playing by them.

Even if you look in the celeb world, this kinda plays out. Lots of hot blondes go for dark haired guys and lots of hot tanned brunettes go for the whitest looking guy they can find.

I'd have a great reception from a hot blonde, a cool black chick, redheads loved me, Asian women were all over me, and even Indian women were giving me eyes. If it came to my "type" though, I got a cold reception. My teammate in baseball, a blond kid that looked like Hayden Christensen, would get compliments and a warm reception from my type. I still remember the days when I tried to chase my type but always got left in the dust, teased, led along, and it rarely ended well. I was never really seen in a sexual way by my type, hard to explain but the natural spark was not there like it would be with me and a hot blonde or a ginger. We had a sizable population of Mediterranean (Portuguese and Italian mainly) descendants in my area, their women did not like me, even their moms treated me worse than my whiter looking friends.

Something that made me say enough is enough.

At some point as a man, you decide enough is enough. As a guy you start to wonder what is the point of going that much for women, who might have the look you are aroused by most, if they are going to treat you like shit for some social reason. I told myself that I am not going to miss out on women who are treating me with warmth and love just to chase a "type" that, for some insecurities of their own, are going to treat me poorly. At one point in high school I even went to Spain where my blond friend constantly got told how pretty he is and one Spanish girl even said to me "you're too dark" in a demeaning way. Dark hair and tanned skin is not too liked in Spain as my European friends will confirm but some Scandinavian girls were super nice to me, I even hooked up with a pale freckled brunette from Norway, and that day did it.

It could be because of how I am but I got very dismissive and hateful towards my type after that day.

I was no longer going to "game" here until she proved to me that she was worth my best.

I had a lot to offer and I was going to offer it to women who don't have biases towards men that look like me.

When college came, I'd go for any woman but my "type". I convinced myself that women of my "type" had stinky pussies, looked like trannies, and cried themselves to sleep not being a hot blonde. I even told one Latina that I thought Penelope Cruz looked like a pig and I rather wrestle Javier Bardem naked than go on a date with her. Every time I'd come across my type, I trained myself to hate her from the get go and acted very dismissive towards her.

I watched porn with blondes, black women, Asian women, and anything but my type to kill my arousal for them. Unfortunately, I still had a thing but I minimized the hell out of it, I'd try to find a flaw in every girl that was my type and convince myself that her pussy probably stinks, she might be a tranny, and she has hairy arms that she nairs.

I'd pull from my best energy and give it to all hot girls but my type, acting dismissive towards my type. To me, I'd train myself to think they were not in the room. I'd hype up and game their friends so well and even other women so well. I won't even say I hated my type as much as they were dead to me. I would cross an Irina Shayk lookalike and not even make eye contact in the hallway.

Put a hot blonde, a black girl, Asian girl, or anyone but my type in the same room and I'd start gaming them direct. I'd talk to them about how cute they were and they would get my undivided attention, even when my type was nearby. In some cases, my type would intervene to comment and almost call me out, I'd smile nod and turn my attention to anyone but my type.

Then my luck changed but I put my foot down hard.

I would have situations where I had gamed a hot blonde well or some Asian girl so good that their friends started coming around. A good bit of them were the hot brunette types I was into and often ignored. One called me out on it and after a few months of back and forth, since we worked on a project together in college, we fucked. I still would not have it though, I had been burned by them enough.

I'd be super nice to the black girl, blonde, or Asian girl but my type? Short one word answers and a very stern tone. If you wanted my respect, you were going to have to earn it. A handful started to call me out on it or in settings where we were strangers, persisted by talking to me more. It became a different kind of game, they were the ones being schooled looking foolish as I negged them and called them out on whatever shit I felt like. It felt pretty good, I found that especially after I had fucked a hot blonde, her dark-haired friend wanted to be with me.

The frame had been shifted, my life was amazing and I was going to proactively go after women who I had good experiences with. My type could join if she wanted but she had to know just like she was going to treat my whiter looking friend better, I was going to treat the blonde better than her.

Over the years, I ended up almost exclusively fucking my type.

Romanian women, swarthy Russian women, Italian women (American and from Italy, some even from Canada!), Spaniard women (still too dark for you hoe?), Portuguese girls, Lebanese girls, Persian girls, and even plain old American girls who came out looking like my type. Maybe its luck but even to this day, I do not game my type with the same optimism and I'd say kindness that I would a blonde, redhead, black girl, Indian girl, or Asian girl. I neg them more, show disinterest a lot, and even when they tease I challenge them.

My tone is stern, cold, and I am always ready to socially lower them in some way.

It worked for me though, it might even work on women who I have naturally attracted, but if it ain't broke why fix it?

Could it work for you too? Yeah, but here is what I am really trying to tell you.

I think that in some ways, social norms or whatever dictate what kinds of women go for you. The culture a woman was raised in, biology to some degree, and media determine what kinds of men she is into. If you are not on her radar there, it could be tough sledding.

But if you do tighten up your fundamentals, look good, and go for any kind of hot girl who is into you, you put yourself in a better spot. After a while you need to stop pandering and live by the saying that those who mind don't mater and those who matter don't mind. You can die not having fucked your type and you'll live a fulfilled life.

If it does get that bad, just see an escort that looks like your type. My friend is an Arab guy with a thing for Mediterranean women but being an Arab, it's a long uphill battle for him to get a girl from Spain or Italy compared to Norway or Sweden. What he does is he goes for women who give him attention but he sees escorts with the Kendall Jenner and Monica Bellucci look, fucking them and then being done with it. In some instances, a girl of his type will pursue him and buck the trend of a part of Europe where blonde hair blue eyes are worshiped.

Be creative if needed but stop pandering and putting in the emotional and game effort on women who have been trained and taught from birth to not like men who might look like you.
 
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Okay... so one thing I notice, is that you put your type on a pedestal before you decided to completely ignore them and teach yourself to dislike them. Are you sure that putting them on a pedestal did not a play a major role at that time?

Because once you got in bed with your "type", you did some attractive things:
  • You got pre-selection from the girls that were into you, which your "type" noticed
  • You stopped putting your "type" on a pedestal
  • You made them work for you once they showed interest
You made yourself an attractive man to them in terms of behavior and that worked in your favor when your raw looks didn't. Wasn't this a revelation to you - that other things could work in your favor? Instead of your looks getting you a foot in the door, it was pre-selection.

Who cares if your looks didn't get them - you found another way of getting them.

Oh - and don't worry. Those girls that are so much into you already - all the blondes and red-heads and Asian girls - they give other guys the same treatment as your "type" gave you. Yeah, you might not have noticed that. But girls are girls are girls.
 

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While I don't look ethnic, I have dark hair and my brother is naturally a blonde. From what I have seen, it depends less on her look and more on her culture and the type of culture she was raised in. I have seen tanned brunette white women who not only preferred dark haired guys but even went as far as to date guys who were not white themselves. One of my LTRs in recent years was a dark haired girl of Irish background who kind of looked like Victoria Justice, before me she dated a Hispanic guy who looked so much like Hector that I thought for a second me and the legend were eskimo bros! :D

Don't just disqualify women based on their appearance if they are your type, you will miss out on a lot of good opportunities. White women of Scandinavian, Irish, or say English descent with that kind of a look hardly care that much for blond haired men, to them, they're white and some even embrace their own tan.

Now there are certain cultures of women who do worship whiteness and are very partial towards blond men. I think part of that this comes from an inferiority complex about not being white enough themselves, some part about being from a culture that values material things above all, and a good part of it about being from a very image focused culture. Everyone wants to attack the WASPs and Anglos but I find that our culture is a lot more humane and accepting than people say.

If you find that a woman of your type who is from any of the following groups, stay away:

This applies to women from the homelands and their diaspora in the US and abroad.

1. Mediterranean, Spain and especially Italy.

If they are a tanned brunette from those countries, don't even bother. My brother gets a very good reception from these women so I don't hate too much but even he has told me how insecure they are about their darker features. I have found that the most chill Italian and Spanish women I knew looked white as fuck, they were more comfortable in their own skin and didn't have a lot of the insecurities and mental issues. Guarantee that if an Italian girl, which we have plenty of in the US as you get to the coastal areas, looks ethnic she will be very dismissive of darker guys. Even my friends of that background have said they do not bother with their own women.

My brother has told me that these women are largely a mess, they tend to be full of insecurities, envious towards whiter looking women, and are actually quite feminist. When you mix in that feminist mindset with that sociopathic mentality some Catholics have, watch out. Even he avoids them now although they throw themselves at him.

You'll commonly see the worst behavior among Italian women and Spanish women that look swarthy like Ariana Grande, I think it comes from an inferiority complex. I have had a good experience with Portuguese women though and so have a lot of my friends who are not even white.

2. Latinas from very brown countries that happen to look a bit white.

Even though people fault Argentina for being the most racist of all the Latino countries, I find this to be less true. The Latinas I meet who are head over heels crazy for blond guys are those from very brown countries and just happen to look white, seeing first hand the value of whiteness. I find this to be common among Colombian, Peruvian, and Chilean women. Mexican women and Argentine women are not that partial towards blond men, not even Brazilian women are as much as people claim. Even if the preference is there, they are more than down for a darker guy.

3. The Balkans, especially countries that are located closer to Italy.

This does not apply to Romanian or Turkish women as much, I have seen that darker guys can do quite well in Turkey although from reading his posts, I think @YS. is your resident expert on Middle Eastern girls. Now Greek, Croatian, and women whose countries are located closer to Italy tend to be dismissive of darker guys. Unlike with Mediterranean women though, I won't say these girls are out of the question to game, mainly because I am not that familiar with them outside of a few encounters.

Eastern European women can be a toss up too. I mainly see the blonde ones going for darker guys but one of my Indian friends did wife up this dime piece from Chicago of Serbian descent, she looks like Denise Milani lol.

Outside of that, game on.

Plenty of women out there with that kind of a look and a good deal of them love the tall dark and handsome. I'd just vet them out based on heritage and country, you can even tell after a while, and then move forward if they are not from any of the red flag nationalities. You end up finding that a lot of the times these women from the cultures I listed are lower quality in general. There is a reason Italian and Spanish men flood into Eastern Europe in droves and swarm tourist women, same reason why most Italian American men do not go for their own women majority of the times. You'll recognize this sort of thing once you have been around enough people.
 
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