Getting going after the opener

[Don38]

Hey all,

I'm ok opening or getting the initial interest. But I was hoping to get more ideas about what to do after the opener.

I try to make up whatever "natural" conversation comes to mind for building on more dialogue/routines, but this "natural" part never felt quite congruent. Are there articles / threads that have information about how to build quality conversations and what to say after the opener?

Yes, I am new here, but I did search around - couldn't quite find anything. If someone could please point out where I can find this information, it would be appreciated.



Quick side note - Product Question: "Meet Girls Everywhere" or "One Date" ? Not sure what the differences are.

Thx!

 

[Teevster]

Have you looked into hook techniques or "hooking" in general? We usualy call this phase the hook/hooking-phase, immersion-phase or "transition phase".

Maybe start out with this post.

Hard to give any further advice as your post clearly lacks details. How do you open? Where? What type of setting? Groups? Lone-wolves? What do you usually transition into post-opening. What is your pre-opener?

Answer all these questions and you will get better answers - you may even find the answer yourself! and if not, at least you are training yourself to self-diagnose like a pro, and becoming more conscious about your own game.

Best,
Teevster

 

[Don38]

Teevster - thx for the great reply, I appreciate it. Will look into that article right away!

My approaches are all of the day-game, solo variety, with the location varying.

Not actually a beginner, but yes, I should have posted more details. I've been at pickup for a while now, but the hooking phase (what used to be called the "transition" phase) is something I want to improve and fix b/c I know it can be much better.



Also - Quick side note - Product Question: "Meet Girls Everywhere" vs. "One Date" ? Not sure what the major differences are after reading about them. (And again, if there is a thread regarding products discussion, please feel free point me in that direction, I didn't find one.)

 

[Teevster]

Teevster - thx for the great reply, I appreciate it. Will look into that article right away!

My approaches are all of the day-game, solo variety, with the location varying.

Not actually a beginner, but yes, I should have posted more details. I've been at pickup for a while now, but the hooking phase (what used to be called the "transition" phase) is something I want to improve and fix b/c I know it can be much better.



Also - Quick side note - Product Question: "Meet Girls Everywhere" vs. "One Date" ? Not sure what the major differences are after reading about them. (And again, if there is a thread regarding products discussion, please feel free point me in that direction, I didn't find one.)

You are welcome. It does not matter how long you have been into this... as one's hook game can never become too good.

You still haven't mentioned how you open and whar you usually transition into and how women tend to respond. Could you please provide more info?

Regarding the product I would start a new thread. On my end I know too little about both products to be of any help.

Best,
Teevster

 

[Bill]

Start screening them. Decide what you are looking for in a woman, and start asking them about themselves. The frame should be not will you win them over but will they win you over.

 

[Don38]

You are welcome. It does not matter how long you have been into this... as one's hook game can never become too good.

You still haven't mentioned how you open and whar you usually transition into and how women tend to respond. Could you please provide more info?

I open with some BradP material and just go into his routines. The transitions between are just really small chit chat with any noticeable stuff that sticks out - comments on the location, something interesting she might be wearing, what she's up to, etc.

The women actually respond fine, I just always wanted to do better in the hooking area, it's just something I would rather internalize and feel better with.