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Sub-Zero

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Hey Chase, franco, and everyone. I'm talking to this girl i work with that's 10 years my seinor with kids, she doesn't know my age but she knows im young. We set up to chill, i come over wait around 10 mins, then i kiss on her and were kissing each other a lot. She then tells me she's on her period, and i know she is because when i was feeling between her legs i felt the pad. What was weird is when she kept saying she didn't want to be easy, or a one night stand, and that she was on her period, and she wants to make me wait until we hang out three times. She told me how she was so attracted to me, and what she liked.

I did every single damn thing that was preached on this site. I kissed her in 10 mins, i went hard, then i stopped, then went hard again. we deep dived a little then began kissing hard again. She was kissing me hard too, and kept saying she wasn't easy and all of that. I kept asking her is she really on her period, and she keeps tellin me she is, and she would even show me the pad. I even thought about fucking on her period, but then she had to get her kids ready for school and i had to leave, i even tried to stay a lil longer, but i had to leave. She even said next time we can do some more. I fucking tried to do it the first night man. Did she want me to fuck her on her damn period? Even if it was made up or not

Now here's my problem, i text her a few days later asking when she was free and she didn't respond. I don't know what to do. Should i avoid her work area, ignore her, that would make it obvious that im upset since im not there anymore, or should text and ask to come over again, should i ask her out in person, should i just act normal and never ask again?

She told she's home a lot and i thought maybe me asking when she was free was not the right text. Why is this shit happening?
Im lost, and don't know how to react to this. what should i do?
 

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Girls will fuck if they rly want to. Even if they have red russians on visit. Try to make as small a deal out of it as possible and just say you can do it with a towel and you don't mind. You can even say it turns you on that she wants it so bad even though she has red russians.

I think u made her horny enough for her to remove the pad but you yourself weren't keen enough to have sex due to her period. When first they're horny and know you a bit deep diving shouldn't be nessecary and instead you should just talk about feelings telling her you want her to feel good and have fun as you slowly become more intimate.
 

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Chill out couple of days, then try again. Don't worry, if she likes you she will stick around and haves sex with you many other times. As always, don't chase and don't be needy...
 

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Man-O said:
Girls will fuck if they rly want to. Even if they have red russians on visit. Try to make as small a deal out of it as possible and just say you can do it with a towel and you don't mind. You can even say it turns you on that she wants it so bad even though she has red russians.

I think u made her horny enough for her to remove the pad but you yourself weren't keen enough to have sex due to her period. When first they're horny and know you a bit deep diving shouldn't be nessecary and instead you should just talk about feelings telling her you want her to feel good and have fun as you slowly become more intimate.
Yeah man, i had sex one time when a girl was on her period and i did not like that shit. I mean i was going to try to do it just because we were all over each other, but i had to leave. Thanks though.
 
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Drck said:
Chill out couple of days, then try again. Don't worry, if she likes you she will stick around and haves sex with you many other times. As always, don't chase and don't be needy...
I feel my text might have been too cold or dry. What should i text her for next time to get a response? Thanks man
 

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Money,

Yeah man, i had sex one time when a girl was on her period and i did not like that shit. I mean i was going to try to do it just because we were all over each other, but i had to leave. Thanks though.

This is going to be an inhibitor if you want to have a lot of success with women. There's really nothing wrong with having sex with a girl on her period, and generally that's when they're at a moment of high sexual lust. It's been mentioned by me on the boards several times, but do you know what I say when a girl tells me she's on her period (as an excuse to not have sex)?

Her: I'm on my period right now...
Me: I think that's fucking hot. Let me get a towel.

The disbelief I've gotten on some girls' faces is actually quite hilarious. They literally have no comeback for that, so things usually just progress to sex from there, and the blood is never an issue. You finish, you go to the bathroom, you wash up a bit, and she leaves thinking you're one hell of a lustful, sexy man.

- Franco
 

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Franco said:
Money,

Yeah man, i had sex one time when a girl was on her period and i did not like that shit. I mean i was going to try to do it just because we were all over each other, but i had to leave. Thanks though.

This is going to be an inhibitor if you want to have a lot of success with women. There's really nothing wrong with having sex with a girl on her period, and generally that's when they're at a moment of high sexual lust. It's been mentioned by me on the boards several times, but do you know what I say when a girl tells me she's on her period (as an excuse to not have sex)?

Her: I'm on my period right now...
Me: I think that's fucking hot. Let me get a towel.

The disbelief I've gotten on some girls' faces is actually quite hilarious. They literally have no comeback for that, so things usually just progress to sex from there, and the blood is never an issue. You finish, you go to the bathroom, you wash up a bit, and she leaves thinking you're one hell of a lustful, sexy man.

- Franco
Got you man, but doesn't that increase risks pf stds? Anyway franco, what should i do with this girl now?
 

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Money,

Got you man, but doesn't that increase risks pf stds?

She has to have an STD for you to get an STD. And there's pretty inconclusive research on whether or not it increases the risk of you catching it if she does. It's pretty much a non-factor for me, and it's going to lose you a lot of potential lays (probably with a lot of girls who actually aren't on their periods) with girls who would have otherwise had sex with you had you pushed through it.

Given that this woman is a mom that is 10 years older than you, it wouldn't necessarily hurt to play it safe if you're not extremely keen on laying her.

Anyway franco, what should i do with this girl now?

Based on the fact that she's no longer responding, it sounds to me like you missed your chance, though. She probably wanted you to push through her minimal resistance and take her to bed, and now she's reluctant to see you again. There isn't much more you can do here other than wait to see if she contacts you (and gives you another chance), or you can wait a few days to a week or so and try contacting her again. If she doesn't respond, I'd say she's probably moved on.

- Franco
 

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I would simply go see her, I don't know what's the exact situation but simply do the same or similar like last time.

If you can't see her call her, it's IMO better than text, and be ready to leave some message. I'm a simple guy, since you were already quite close to having sex I would say couple sentences, maybe something like:

hi there, haven't seen you couple of days, just wondering how are you doing. Hope everything is ok with you, I had a good time and hope to talk to you soon. Call me when you get a chance, you got my number: ....

You don't even have to invite her out yet, you don't have to try being sexy or clever, just keep it neutral-to-positive. If she is interested she will definitely call/text back, or let you know otherwise.

Don't get upset, no drama, don't ask for explanations. You simply had a good time and you want to move forward, having a good time again...

Trust yourself, believe that she wants you, IMO based on what you wrote she is quite interested... She may just be waiting for your reactions, testing how impatient you are or whether you are really interested. So simply persist...

Added: it's different than what Franco said, but it just depends on your style. I simply believe in more chances, assuming that the girl is more mature and that she likes you. On the other hand, if you had abundance mentality and didn't reay care much about this girl, I would agree with Franco and simply move forward...
 

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Franco said:
Money,

Got you man, but doesn't that increase risks pf stds?

She has to have an STD for you to get an STD. And there's pretty inconclusive research on whether or not it increases the risk of you catching it if she does. It's pretty much a non-factor for me, and it's going to lose you a lot of potential lays (probably with a lot of girls who actually aren't on their periods) with girls who would have otherwise had sex with you had you pushed through it.

Given that this woman is a mom that is 10 years older than you, it wouldn't necessarily hurt to play it safe if you're not extremely keen on laying her.

Anyway franco, what should i do with this girl now?

Based on the fact that she's no longer responding, it sounds to me like you missed your chance, though. She probably wanted you to push through her minimal resistance and take her to bed, and now she's reluctant to see you again. There isn't much more you can do here other than wait to see if she contacts you (and gives you another chance), or you can wait a few days to a week or so and try contacting her again. If she doesn't respond, I'd say she's probably moved on.

- Franco
Yeah man i got you, this problem only happened to me once and i honestly forgot all about the period excuse, i tell you now i will be swimming in that shit from now on.

I know before i left she said she wanted to hang out three times, ( that's not the reason i didn't fuck the first time) before we had sex, and next time i come over we were going to do a lot more. doesn't that mean she at least wants to see me again? Should i remind her about that?

Im not going to text her, i feel better asking out in person. Thing is idk when ill see her again at work. How does that sound? How should i act?
 

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Money,

I know before i left she said she wanted to hang out three times, ( that's not the reason i didn't fuck the first time) before we had sex, and next time i come over we were going to do a lot more. doesn't that mean she at least wants to see me again? Should i remind her about that?

Nope! Doesn't mean a damn thing, unfortunately. One of the many lessons you will learn quickly with women is that many times you only get one chance.

Now, does this necessarily mean she won't see you again (or neither will any women that tell you they want to see you again)? No, and there's still a chance she might. But when you start to get more experience taking women home, you'll realize that women are much less likely to follow up on a second date/meet-up with you than it would initially seem.

I also find that there's a threshold for how far you want to go with women before you make the decision to go all the way. If you end a date with a girl before you two move to a private location, the chance for you two to see each other again is actually higher, assuming the date went well. However, if you take a girl home with you and THEN don't go all the way, the chance for you two to see each other again drops dramatically.

So generally if I get a woman back home with me these days, I do everything in my power to go as far with her as possible, without doing anything that she doesn't want me to do of course.

Im not going to text her, i feel better asking out in person. Thing is idk when ill see her again at work. How does that sound? How should i act?

Tough to say, bud. Especially since she works with you, it actually makes this a more delicate situation. I generally follow the mantra of "don't shit where you eat" so that you don't end up in any awkward/bad situations.

I still thinking texting her maybe one more time within a few days or a week is the best way to go. If she doesn't answer your text, she obviously doesn't want to speak with you at the moment, so confronting her in person is only going to make her feel more awkward or put off.

- Franco
 

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Franco said:
Money,

I know before i left she said she wanted to hang out three times, ( that's not the reason i didn't fuck the first time) before we had sex, and next time i come over we were going to do a lot more. doesn't that mean she at least wants to see me again? Should i remind her about that?

Nope! Doesn't mean a damn thing, unfortunately. One of the many lessons you will learn quickly with women is that many times you only get one chance.

Now, does this necessarily mean she won't see you again (or neither will any women that tell you they want to see you again)? No, and there's still a chance she might. But when you start to get more experience taking women home, you'll realize that women are much less likely to follow up on a second date/meet-up with you than it would initially seem.

I also find that there's a threshold for how far you want to go with women before you make the decision to go all the way. If you end a date with a girl before you two move to a private location, the chance for you two to see each other again is actually higher, assuming the date went well. However, if you take a girl home with you and THEN don't go all the way, the chance for you two to see each other again drops dramatically.

So generally if I get a woman back home with me these days, I do everything in my power to go as far with her as possible, without doing anything that she doesn't want me to do of course.

Im not going to text her, i feel better asking out in person. Thing is idk when ill see her again at work. How does that sound? How should i act?

Tough to say, bud. Especially since she works with you, it actually makes this a more delicate situation. I generally follow the mantra of "don't shit where you eat" so that you don't end up in any awkward/bad situations.

I still thinking texting her maybe one more time within a few days or a week is the best way to go. If she doesn't answer your text, she obviously doesn't want to speak with you at the moment, so confronting her in person is only going to make her feel more awkward or put off.

- Franco

i understand man, girls really don't give second chances. I was thinking of just asking her out when i see her, i was just gonna act like i never texted her, and it didn't bother me, but if i do text, could you give me a text that would sound good?

And i wanted to ask this. In the article about cutting off girls chase says if you're a beginner and if you don't sleep with said girl after three failed escalations cut her off, he says two if you're intermediate. I want to know how would they get second chances after that, if girls don't give out second chances?

Not tryna be smart, but I'd like to know how they would have multiple chances.
 

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Drck said:
I would simply go see her, I don't know what's the exact situation but simply do the same or similar like last time.

If you can't see her call her, it's IMO better than text, and be ready to leave some message. I'm a simple guy, since you were already quite close to having sex I would say couple sentences, maybe something like:

hi there, haven't seen you couple of days, just wondering how are you doing. Hope everything is ok with you, I had a good time and hope to talk to you soon. Call me when you get a chance, you got my number: ....

You don't even have to invite her out yet, you don't have to try being sexy or clever, just keep it neutral-to-positive. If she is interested she will definitely call/text back, or let you know otherwise.

Don't get upset, no drama, don't ask for explanations. You simply had a good time and you want to move forward, having a good time again...

Trust yourself, believe that she wants you, IMO based on what you wrote she is quite interested... She may just be waiting for your reactions, testing how impatient you are or whether you are really interested. So simply persist...

Added: it's different than what Franco said, but it just depends on your style. I simply believe in more chances, assuming that the girl is more mature and that she likes you. On the other hand, if you had abundance mentality and didn't reay care much about this girl, I would agree with Franco and simply move forward...

Yeah you and franco are giving me two totally different sides of the coin. I don't mind, i like to hear different answers. Yeah i would think she would kind of feel crazy because i wouldn't fuck her on her period, but girls make no sense. Do you get second chances a lot? How do you get them, Why is your mindset so different?
 

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Sometimes it's good to put all things into perspective. A guy who is a beginner to intermediate, he just doesn't have good Abundance Mentality, he is more focused on say 1-2 girls. He goes out with the girl, he doesn't really have much experience and thus he naturally messes up. If the girl likes him enough though, and if he is persistent enough, he can still get her. She will give him more chances (assuming the she likes him and is attracted enough).

In this case, he would be making a mistake to walk away from a girl that is open to him. He can go for more dates, not sleep with the girl, and she still can get him more chances. That's why you see many times that guys who are persistent and keep going after one girl over and over, they can get her.

I've witnessed that a guy actually seduced this way a newly married girl. She got married, he was going after her for 2-3 months till she simply gave up. She got divorced and married to this guy, all within 4-5 months. It doesn't happen all the time, but it happens.

Sometimes you keep going after one girl, and she keeps rejecting you over and over. So you finally give up. Nothing happens for a while - and all of the sudden you realize that she is actually after you... That's a good style as well, you simply invest and wait, hopefully your effort comes back in some time...

Now say that a guy is around seduction for a while, he knows some intermediate stuff, he's got more girls available to him. He's got plenty of Abundance Mentality, he can move around with different girls. It doesn't make much sense to him to keep going after one girl, it is simply a waste of energy and time as he can get other girls in the same period of time.

So because of the experience, he simply knows that most effective way (high attraction + least energy exerted) is to get the girl say within first three dates. The style and his mindset changes, now he learned more about signs when the girl is open to him or not. She may not be open the first date or so, but she may open within next two dates... He would be silly not to try again...

Say he's been around for couple of years, and he's got good experience with girls, he's a veteran. He's got great Abundance Mentality, and he can see very fast whether the girl is open to him on the first date or not, within minutes, sometimes even on the spot. If she is not open, he may simply walk away because he knows that the energy to get her is too high, it is simply much easier to find another girl that is open... He would be silly to keep going after this one girl, even if he knows he can eventually get her...

All these three are quite different styles and approaches. With greater Abundance Mentality you just spend less time on one particular girl. For example, I made a huge mistake in the past, I was going after one girl too long at work, while at the same time there were 4-5 other girls quite open to me with significantly less effort, virtually none, they were inviting me to their places, driving me in the car - while I did nothing, zero.... At the end I didn't get any of those girls, because by the time I gave up on that girl the others lost interest...

I was dating even for months before I got laid, I was shy to touch and kiss, and I still got laid... but again, it all depends...

So it's really different coins. Personally I wouldn't really worry much about one, two or three missed opportunities, especially if you were already quite intimate and almost there. Give her couple of days to show that you are not needy, and do the same over and over, that's your frame. You are a man and you want to sleep with her, there is nothing wrong with it, and if it doesn't work out the first time, well, just persist. The more she likes you the more chances she will give you anyway, and now she knows what she can expect from you. So next time, if she goes with you to your place again, you can be 98% sure that she wants it no matter what she says, and no matter what her resistance is. She knows exactly what you want, she is not stupid...

If I were you I would give it say 3-4 tries, than the likelihood that she is interested diminishes... If she doesn't like you she will start avoiding you anyway, she will make excuses, she will not show up and so on. That's the problem with girls at work, now you have to deal with that crap. If that's the case, smile, don't chase, no drama - simply walk away from her as if nothing happened, remain friendly and non-reactive...
 

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Drck said:
Sometimes it's good to put all things into perspective. A guy who is a beginner to intermediate, he just doesn't have good Abundance Mentality, he is more focused on say 1-2 girls. He goes out with the girl, he doesn't really have much experience and thus he naturally messes up. If the girl likes him enough though, and if he is persistent enough, he can still get her. She will give him more chances (assuming the she likes him and is attracted enough).

In this case, he would be making a mistake to walk away from a girl that is open to him. He can go for more dates, not sleep with the girl, and she still can get him more chances. That's why you see many times that guys who are persistent and keep going after one girl over and over, they can get her.

I've witnessed that a guy actually seduced this way a newly married girl. She got married, he was going after her for 2-3 months till she simply gave up. She got divorced and married to this guy, all within 4-5 months. It doesn't happen all the time, but it happens.

Sometimes you keep going after one girl, and she keeps rejecting you over and over. So you finally give up. Nothing happens for a while - and all of the sudden you realize that she is actually after you... That's a good style as well, you simply invest and wait, hopefully your effort comes back in some time...

Now say that a guy is around seduction for a while, he knows some intermediate stuff, he's got more girls available to him. He's got plenty of Abundance Mentality, he can move around with different girls. It doesn't make much sense to him to keep going after one girl, it is simply a waste of energy and time as he can get other girls in the same period of time.

So because of the experience, he simply knows that most effective way (high attraction + least energy exerted) is to get the girl say within first three dates. The style and his mindset changes, now he learned more about signs when the girl is open to him or not. She may not be open the first date or so, but she may open within next two dates... He would be silly not to try again...

Say he's been around for couple of years, and he's got good experience with girls, he's a veteran. He's got great Abundance Mentality, and he can see very fast whether the girl is open to him on the first date or not, within minutes, sometimes even on the spot. If she is not open, he may simply walk away because he knows that the energy to get her is too high, it is simply much easier to find another girl that is open... He would be silly to keep going after this one girl, even if he knows he can eventually get her...

All these three are quite different styles and approaches. With greater Abundance Mentality you just spend less time on one particular girl. For example, I made a huge mistake in the past, I was going after one girl too long at work, while at the same time there were 4-5 other girls quite open to me with significantly less effort, virtually none, they were inviting me to their places, driving me in the car - while I did nothing, zero.... At the end I didn't get any of those girls, because by the time I gave up on that girl the others lost interest...

I was dating even for months before I got laid, I was shy to touch and kiss, and I still got laid... but again, it all depends...

So it's really different coins. Personally I wouldn't really worry much about one, two or three missed opportunities, especially if you were already quite intimate and almost there. Give her couple of days to show that you are not needy, and do the same over and over, that's your frame. You are a man and you want to sleep with her, there is nothing wrong with it, and if it doesn't work out the first time, well, just persist. The more she likes you the more chances she will give you anyway, and now she knows what she can expect from you. So next time, if she goes with you to your place again, you can be 98% sure that she wants it no matter what she says, and no matter what her resistance is. She knows exactly what you want, she is not stupid...

If I were you I would give it say 3-4 tries, than the likelihood that she is interested diminishes... If she doesn't like you she will start avoiding you anyway, she will make excuses, she will not show up and so on. That's the problem with girls at work, now you have to deal with that crap. If that's the case, smile, don't chase, no drama - simply walk away from her as if nothing happened, remain friendly and non-reactive...

Like what you're saying man. I appreciate all of your help. I know it's been done before and it wasn't incredible hard. Gotta remember that lovers are unique right? So i know most men don't move fast and fuck up a lot more, and still lay the girl.

Im not trying to make this a big deal, but i feel i that im supposed to fuck her, and i remember about being persistence. I wonder why what you say is so different from everyone else
 

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IMO it is not that different. The ideal situation - assuming that you want to be good at seduction - is to develop Abundance Mentality. You simply have more choices, more girls, thus you don't even have time going after one girl...

At the same time, we don't live in an ideal world. Who's got time to meet new girls every week? Why bother with meeting new girls - if you can have good and stable relationship with girl that is right in front of your nose?

So you simply use what you can, what is currently available to you, with tools you have right now. Focus on that one, keep your frame, keep your strategy. Practice persistence, show her that you want her without being needy. You have nothing to lose, even if you get rejected it is a good experience. It doesn't really have to be black and white either, you can still be focused at this girl at work - while developing Abundance Mentality with another girls...


If you ever practiced karate or other martial arts, it is very similar. You get lessons from some experienced guy who's got say black belt and has been around for years. Ok, and he is really good, he tells you what is the right way, what is a good technique, and what not to do. Regardless, if you want to be a good fighter you still have to fight no matter whether your belt color is white, green or purple. You don't wait till you have a black belt and perfect techniques to fight - you simply fight with what you know, with your current skills. You can always improve later. That is a good way, and who knows, perhaps the only way to move forward. And the heck with it, you can even be a great fighter - without any belts, without any great techniques or kicks...
 

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Drck said:
IMO it is not that different. The ideal situation - assuming that you want to be good at seduction - is to develop Abundance Mentality. You simply have more choices, more girls, thus you don't even have time going after one girl...

At the same time, we don't live in an ideal world. Who's got time to meet new girls every week? Why bother with meeting new girls - if you can have good and stable relationship with girl that is right in front of your nose?

So you simply use what you can, what is currently available to you, with tools you have right now. Focus on that one, keep your frame, keep your strategy. Practice persistence, show her that you want her without being needy. You have nothing to lose, even if you get rejected it is a good experience. It doesn't really have to be black and white either, you can still be focused at this girl at work - while developing Abundance Mentality with another girls...


If you ever practiced karate or other martial arts, it is very similar. You get lessons from some experienced guy who's got say black belt and has been around for years. Ok, and he is really good, he tells you what is the right way, what is a good technique, and what not to do. Regardless, if you want to be a good fighter you still have to fight no matter whether your belt color is white, green or purple. You don't wait till you have a black belt and perfect techniques to fight - you simply fight with what you know, with your current skills. You can always improve later. That is a good way, and who knows, perhaps the only way to move forward. And the heck with it, you can even be a great fighter - without any belts, without any great techniques or kicks...

Thanks man, appreciate your help.
 

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Franco said:
Money,

I know before i left she said she wanted to hang out three times, ( that's not the reason i didn't fuck the first time) before we had sex, and next time i come over we were going to do a lot more. doesn't that mean she at least wants to see me again? Should i remind her about that?

Nope! Doesn't mean a damn thing, unfortunately. One of the many lessons you will learn quickly with women is that many times you only get one chance.

Now, does this necessarily mean she won't see you again (or neither will any women that tell you they want to see you again)? No, and there's still a chance she might. But when you start to get more experience taking women home, you'll realize that women are much less likely to follow up on a second date/meet-up with you than it would initially seem.

I also find that there's a threshold for how far you want to go with women before you make the decision to go all the way. If you end a date with a girl before you two move to a private location, the chance for you two to see each other again is actually higher, assuming the date went well. However, if you take a girl home with you and THEN don't go all the way, the chance for you two to see each other again drops dramatically.

So generally if I get a woman back home with me these days, I do everything in my power to go as far with her as possible, without doing anything that she doesn't want me to do of course.

Im not going to text her, i feel better asking out in person. Thing is idk when ill see her again at work. How does that sound? How should i act?

Tough to say, bud. Especially since she works with you, it actually makes this a more delicate situation. I generally follow the mantra of "don't shit where you eat" so that you don't end up in any awkward/bad situations.

I still thinking texting her maybe one more time within a few days or a week is the best way to go. If she doesn't answer your text, she obviously doesn't want to speak with you at the moment, so confronting her in person is only going to make her feel more awkward or put off.

- Franco

Franco, if i text her, can you give me a good text she would likely answer and agree with? I was thinking a same day text idk.

Or should i just leave it alone and let her chase? Like how Alex said in his new article about moving on. Im not needy or desperate like how he describes the men chasing in the article, but i don't want to lose easy lays, im on a roll right now Brother!

All i can say Franco is this girl has to have some type of feelings for me. She was tellin me how she likes being around me and doesn't want me to go, and even if i didn't approach she would have done it.

I want the best social situation for me, and still look like a winner. Thanks.
 
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