Calls & Texts Girl excited about me - struggling with D2 regardless

[Railer]

Basically, things in my FR turned out positively so far (viewtopic.php?f=5&t=13579&p=69391#p69391). However, I still don't know how to get to a D2.

So as you see there, she turned me down once.

In similar situations with other girls, I tried insisting, I tried reducing the amount of communication, I tried staying kind and playful ... only to see that communication goes stale ot one or the other moment.

So I'd appreciate some new input from your side, guys.

Maybe it's time for some out-of-the-box thinking, but I struggle to see more options.

Thank you!

 

[pks391]

Okay i examined your conversations and from my observation, you're hanging a bit too much on topics which are not focused on the girl per se. You keep discussing movies and day to day life and regular stuff.....you know, like small talk....something which your next door neighbour or your office colleague might ask you.....the main purpose of having a conversation with her is to GET HER TO YOUR BED and thats not gonna happen while you discuss movies with her.....it happens when you talk to her about something deep.......Deep Diving.......then when you have her attention......(a hook point)....throw in some flirtations.....some sex talk......don't have long conversations over the phone......don't be her texting buddy......set up a date and get talking about the stuff that gets her wet......that gets her feeling....wow......he really makes me feel good by talking....use the technique.....i don't know how much i could identify but it seems to me that in that convo she was trying to play hard to get or scouting you out to see if there is still something more to you that she missed........
www.girlschase.com/content/20-ways-talk ... it-amazing

www.girlschase.com/content/4-example-co ... and-2-more

www.girlschase.com/content/how-talk-gir ... m-want-you

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[Railer]

During the entire month, I intensely worked through the material you linked to (plus loads more).

With my new understanding, especially about the dynamics of attainability and value, your suggestions are much clearer.

Looking back, I now realize that my value was very high from the get-go. The girls excited reaction to seeing me (again) confirms this.

Where I failed with this and likely almost every other girl I desired so much, was attainability. The girl was giving me chances to *screen* her and thereby let her know that I value her as a human being - that I see her as someone special. Just like you said:

she was trying to play hard to get or scouting you out to see if there is still something more to you that she missed

I am pretty sure that the main problem was me being considered "insincere". At first, she didn't believe that I lived in her city. Running into her a week later, resolved that issue and had her react positively.

But then I caused the issue again: Instead of screening and connecting, I pushed for a meet. This made me appear as if I'd just wanted to "use" her. I fell into the "low attainability" category again. (She didn't see me as being "attainable" in a form that would have suited her desires.)

When I incidentally met her again in a club, she returned my greeting, then ran away as quickly as possible and never looked at me again.


Given that I've been committing the same error over many years, the realization is still quite painful, but at least I have something to work from now.


Thank for pointing me in the right direction, pks391!

 

[pks391]

During the entire month, I intensely worked through the material you linked to (plus loads more).

With my new understanding, especially about the dynamics of attainability and value, your suggestions are much clearer.

Looking back, I now realize that my value was very high from the get-go. The girls excited reaction to seeing me (again) confirms this.

Where I failed with this and likely almost every other girl I desired so much, was attainability. The girl was giving me chances to *screen* her and thereby let her know that I value her as a human being - that I see her as someone special. Just like you said:

she was trying to play hard to get or scouting you out to see if there is still something more to you that she missed

I am pretty sure that the main problem was me being considered "insincere". At first, she didn't believe that I lived in her city. Running into her a week later, resolved that issue and had her react positively.

But then I caused the issue again: Instead of screening and connecting, I pushed for a meet. This made me appear as if I'd just wanted to "use" her. I fell into the "low attainability" category again. (She didn't see me as being "attainable" in a form that would have suited her desires.)

When I incidentally met her again in a club, she returned my greeting, then ran away as quickly as possible and never looked at me again.


Given that I've been committing the same error over many years, the realization is still quite painful, but at least I have something to work from now.


Thank for pointing me in the right direction, pks391!

Glad to hear it,
Thats what the forums are for.....if you need any more help, just ask, the guys here will give you some solid material to help work with.