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Hey gents,
I've been stacking up reports to see if I can get a lay out of them and then write LRs, but I thought I'd share some of my advances with you. Maybe give less experienced guys mistakes to learn from and some advice out of the more experienced ones.
I'll keep non-LRs reports briefer than usual otherwise I'll bury myself writing these!
So you might or might not have read the thread about texting girls I made earlier this week, where I dove a little bit deeper on the girl of this report. I recommend you reading my second post on that thread before reading this report.
Long story short, she was investing a lot over text, but she wouldn't do it on our "date". It was one of the most boring dates of my entire life. We connected so fucking well over text and I got the feeling that we had so much to talk about, connect and relate that I thought this was going to be lots of fun. She even said after our first day texting:
So, on my way to our date I was nervous as fuck because she was one of the most beautiful girls I've ever got a number from. She showed up 30 mins earlier there, texted me saying she was already there and I said I was on my way. I get there, grab a seat in front of her and ask
I then say she must be a very fast driver (relating to something we texted about before) and that I ought to get a ride from her (relating to something we also texted about before plus planting the seed for a later pull). She quickly responded that "it isn't going to be today because I have to make a good impression." So she actually cares about the impression, it's investment from her part and as you'll read later on, she'll give the ride at the end of the date... so I don't bother.
She then says she had to change her schedule completely -- skip class, and mind you, this is a 3.9/4 GPA girl and go to work earlier -- just to meet me and that that's a "privilege for few" jokingly. She's very shy, doesn't like to party and shit, not very sexual, never had a boyfriend and I'm assuming she's a virgin. But she's well-traveled so I ask about that, and what countries and places she wants to visit and shit like that, but she keeps giving me a lot of shallow responses and not investing that much.
She's not "afraid" of making small jokes at my expenses (I was making some redundant/obvious question indeed), but I don't if that's her (inexperienced) way to flirt with me.
I probe her further about specifics of her trips, dreams and try to dive deeper. She still doesn't go into auto-pilot mode by this point like all the other girls I talked with in the past. After a while, I ran out of things to ask and my eyes started wandering thinking about something to ask. I was visibly annoyed by the fact I had nowhere to steer the conversation... but after a couple of seconds I'd go back to one of the topics we had already talked about but ask a different angle or something like that.
I realize I'm tense, leaning towards her with my elbows on the table and talking way faster than I should be. I lay back and begin to relax more. I'd lean towards her and get back to a relaxed position once I realize I was doing it but I'd became completely OK with the "running out of things to say." I knew that if I waited long enough, she'd feel awkward and get things rolling again.
It happened twice and I said nothing and she brought up a random fact from her life and we'd continue from there. One hour into the date and no sex talk/sexual innuendos/chase framing. With "normal" girls I'm pretty comfortable bringing up the topic somehow, but since she was a very inexperienced girl I always felt I'd fall flat on my face and that she'd be extremely uncomfortable with it.
She wasn't giving windows and even denied the ride a second time when I jokingly said something about it. Two hours and a half into the date, I felt it was becoming boring, I wanted to pull, but there was no sexual tension or anything. I had already mentioned some pics I had to show her but she didn't seem that much into it. So I asked for the bill and persisted for a ride, which she gave me.
I thought of suggesting her to come to my place, but she was a really bad driver and was nervous as fuck while driving (though I don't think she realizes). She mentioned that she only goes to places that have parking lots because she can't park on the street. And since I live downtown it would require serious parking skills with rush hour traffic behind her... I doubt she'd do it. But anyways, she drops me off near home and don't even kiss goodbye or hug or anything of that nature.
In the end it was a good thing, because once I got home I realized I just locked myself outside and lost my keys. Not only that, but my roommate got back home early from class and there's not way I could escalate with him there. I proposed meeting that day and that time because he'd be at class, or so I thought.
Looking back, I don't feel like killing myself for missing windows or not having balls to do something. If I did pull her home, it'd be hell, so I'm actually glad I didn't. I'm not that much excited about this girl anymore because on a second look, she isn't as attractive as I thought she was. She was wearing a skirt, so when we got up I got to have a look at her legs and waist, and although she didn't look like she was fat, she had a "thick" waist (and huge calves, so maybe that's genetic).
I think that many of the awkward moments happened out of her willingness to not move things forward that fast. She hinted the this was her first time doing "these kind of things." I'm still not at the level where I can lead and push push push things forwards if the girl isn't presenting me some opportunities or at least being receptive to my advances.
I reckon that I'd need a couple more dates to bed this girl and do things a la normal guy (which is the fastest for her). Even though I'm not that excited, I think I'm going to ask her out as try to move things forward as fast as she lets me. I think I'll benefit from putting myself into these awkward interactions so I learn to be more firm and to remain calm and nonreactive when I run out of things to say, get challenged, etc. and if I end up in friend territory I don't really care, she'd make a really cool friend anyways.
I'm just perplexed by the difference of investment over text and in real life. I know I shouldn't be texting girls, but look at the thread I linked before -- it should provide some background as to why that happened. I was actually trying to limit my texting without putting her into auto-rejection. I don't want make suggestions here because I don't wanna steer you guys thought in a particular direction, but I wonder if it's because she was inexperienced and uncomfortable or if it had something with me pussying out/my lack of leadership.
Let me hear your thoughts.
P.S. Second date templates would be welcome. Just keep in mind that I won't be able to pull her home and we live kinda far away and I won't drive that much just to see her. Maybe a mall or somewhere where we can walk and possibly make out. Then suggest a motel or something of that nature once we get back to her car.
I've been stacking up reports to see if I can get a lay out of them and then write LRs, but I thought I'd share some of my advances with you. Maybe give less experienced guys mistakes to learn from and some advice out of the more experienced ones.
I'll keep non-LRs reports briefer than usual otherwise I'll bury myself writing these!
So you might or might not have read the thread about texting girls I made earlier this week, where I dove a little bit deeper on the girl of this report. I recommend you reading my second post on that thread before reading this report.
Long story short, she was investing a lot over text, but she wouldn't do it on our "date". It was one of the most boring dates of my entire life. We connected so fucking well over text and I got the feeling that we had so much to talk about, connect and relate that I thought this was going to be lots of fun. She even said after our first day texting:
So, on my way to our date I was nervous as fuck because she was one of the most beautiful girls I've ever got a number from. She showed up 30 mins earlier there, texted me saying she was already there and I said I was on my way. I get there, grab a seat in front of her and ask
I then say she must be a very fast driver (relating to something we texted about before) and that I ought to get a ride from her (relating to something we also texted about before plus planting the seed for a later pull). She quickly responded that "it isn't going to be today because I have to make a good impression." So she actually cares about the impression, it's investment from her part and as you'll read later on, she'll give the ride at the end of the date... so I don't bother.
She then says she had to change her schedule completely -- skip class, and mind you, this is a 3.9/4 GPA girl and go to work earlier -- just to meet me and that that's a "privilege for few" jokingly. She's very shy, doesn't like to party and shit, not very sexual, never had a boyfriend and I'm assuming she's a virgin. But she's well-traveled so I ask about that, and what countries and places she wants to visit and shit like that, but she keeps giving me a lot of shallow responses and not investing that much.
She's not "afraid" of making small jokes at my expenses (I was making some redundant/obvious question indeed), but I don't if that's her (inexperienced) way to flirt with me.
I probe her further about specifics of her trips, dreams and try to dive deeper. She still doesn't go into auto-pilot mode by this point like all the other girls I talked with in the past. After a while, I ran out of things to ask and my eyes started wandering thinking about something to ask. I was visibly annoyed by the fact I had nowhere to steer the conversation... but after a couple of seconds I'd go back to one of the topics we had already talked about but ask a different angle or something like that.
I realize I'm tense, leaning towards her with my elbows on the table and talking way faster than I should be. I lay back and begin to relax more. I'd lean towards her and get back to a relaxed position once I realize I was doing it but I'd became completely OK with the "running out of things to say." I knew that if I waited long enough, she'd feel awkward and get things rolling again.
It happened twice and I said nothing and she brought up a random fact from her life and we'd continue from there. One hour into the date and no sex talk/sexual innuendos/chase framing. With "normal" girls I'm pretty comfortable bringing up the topic somehow, but since she was a very inexperienced girl I always felt I'd fall flat on my face and that she'd be extremely uncomfortable with it.
She wasn't giving windows and even denied the ride a second time when I jokingly said something about it. Two hours and a half into the date, I felt it was becoming boring, I wanted to pull, but there was no sexual tension or anything. I had already mentioned some pics I had to show her but she didn't seem that much into it. So I asked for the bill and persisted for a ride, which she gave me.
I thought of suggesting her to come to my place, but she was a really bad driver and was nervous as fuck while driving (though I don't think she realizes). She mentioned that she only goes to places that have parking lots because she can't park on the street. And since I live downtown it would require serious parking skills with rush hour traffic behind her... I doubt she'd do it. But anyways, she drops me off near home and don't even kiss goodbye or hug or anything of that nature.
In the end it was a good thing, because once I got home I realized I just locked myself outside and lost my keys. Not only that, but my roommate got back home early from class and there's not way I could escalate with him there. I proposed meeting that day and that time because he'd be at class, or so I thought.
Looking back, I don't feel like killing myself for missing windows or not having balls to do something. If I did pull her home, it'd be hell, so I'm actually glad I didn't. I'm not that much excited about this girl anymore because on a second look, she isn't as attractive as I thought she was. She was wearing a skirt, so when we got up I got to have a look at her legs and waist, and although she didn't look like she was fat, she had a "thick" waist (and huge calves, so maybe that's genetic).
I think that many of the awkward moments happened out of her willingness to not move things forward that fast. She hinted the this was her first time doing "these kind of things." I'm still not at the level where I can lead and push push push things forwards if the girl isn't presenting me some opportunities or at least being receptive to my advances.
I reckon that I'd need a couple more dates to bed this girl and do things a la normal guy (which is the fastest for her). Even though I'm not that excited, I think I'm going to ask her out as try to move things forward as fast as she lets me. I think I'll benefit from putting myself into these awkward interactions so I learn to be more firm and to remain calm and nonreactive when I run out of things to say, get challenged, etc. and if I end up in friend territory I don't really care, she'd make a really cool friend anyways.
I'm just perplexed by the difference of investment over text and in real life. I know I shouldn't be texting girls, but look at the thread I linked before -- it should provide some background as to why that happened. I was actually trying to limit my texting without putting her into auto-rejection. I don't want make suggestions here because I don't wanna steer you guys thought in a particular direction, but I wonder if it's because she was inexperienced and uncomfortable or if it had something with me pussying out/my lack of leadership.
Let me hear your thoughts.
P.S. Second date templates would be welcome. Just keep in mind that I won't be able to pull her home and we live kinda far away and I won't drive that much just to see her. Maybe a mall or somewhere where we can walk and possibly make out. Then suggest a motel or something of that nature once we get back to her car.
