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This idea is going to be VERY Basic but i think powerful. In fact it might be so basic and have power in its basicness that smart minds might miss it, overlooking its awesome power.
--short version
If you want to be successful, be where success happens- that is, things. Deals, connections, girls. That's the long and short of this and you can stop here if you like, but before you go let me ask you how you think you're doing in that realm of life with respect to current capacity (you could go there tomorrow and be welcome). Are you "place-maximizing" in all your endeavors? Don't even consider your performance or level of social capital and standing.
--- long version
I am not where i should be, not nearly enough, not with respect to dating.. and i am working on turning that ship around but i want to get philosophical.
This is not a system but there are four related ideas I'm holding in my mind: Thinking, Being (in one's self), Doing and Going (or Being in a place), and being has two parts- being in a given state and being at a certain level of growth or development in all the various areas.
This is not meant to be mystical and not meant to be a system. It's really simple. Thinking, being, doing, going. that's all there is i think. Doing includes speaking here. What else is there?
You can't get if you don't Go (Be in teh right place)-- so one has to find the place. I mean that's why covid pissed people off..and why phone culture maybe changed the game. We used to have the agora and the marketplace, the dance hall etc. Anyway i'm not here to rant or philosophize on that.
My main idea is this- revolving around change -- that is progressive change. we want what i call progressive, which means it's not cyclical, although that's part of life- RPMs or turnovers of things, cycles of rent collection (or for most people payment), of paychecks, of lift and rest in the gym and so on. cycles matter but the point of them is to have them serve you for progression (unless you're already on mt olympus or the elysian fields). So i call these things progressive. I want progressive thought. sometimes thoughts can get stuck, in loops or whatever. Sometimes they get unblocked and start becoming progressive. This is just my terminology. The point of this all is progressive change.
The idea is this. This is not my religion or anything- just recent thoughts i've been having. I am biasd towards action- when i know what action to take and when i can give it a true good faith effort. I have tried so much in my life, so many things - travelled, learned languages, worked numerous jobs-- a lot of my friends and people thougth i was crazy or wild- these midwestern small town people but i love them. I was vegan for a few years- (A LONG time ago when we didn't know a lot of things we know now and i did it for the science which i now realize was a lie. interestingly i also tried carivore recently, very strictly for 8 months and I can from that experience completely vouch for it. i felt great, maybe my best. i just don't do it completely becaues of the effort but i think that's a yamnaya pastoralist warrior's natural diet). I try things. I am biased towards action..
But i also value thought. As a man thinketh.. and all.
To steal a title, without necessarily getting into the material of it- Think and Grow Rich- is that possible? Or sub out rich for Think and Get Laid A lot and find Great Love, and all that, and so on and so forth? Is that real?
Yes in a way because in many ways thought is all we have but i will explain my thoughts and unpack them becaues they are more nuanced.
I say form a chain where it makes sense.
Think and Learn To Spot a Deal and Make a Deal and Grow Rich. There, you've completed a path.
Think and Learn how to Socialize, and Connect with People who have Deals, Make a Deal and Grow Rich
Think and Learn how to Grow True Wealth (e.g. acquire assets that generate income) and Do That and Grow Rich
So thought is what does it but there's a chain.
Now what'smost interesting for me right now is being in the right place -which in many ways i am not but i do not intend to complain. I just think objectively I am not finding the places (but i didn't always understand this) and this is stealing my months and years.
Maybe at a place there are people who want to make deals, or buy what you are selling, and all you literlaly have to do is go there, so it becomes
Think and Know where to Go and Go there and Do the Deal/Make the Sale and Grow Rich.
There's a logical chain so we can dispense with the mysticisim.
IncidentallyI do not know that we control our own thoughts. This gets into deep topics of what is the self, what is the "I". I think there are parts to the self. It is always good to integrate them, and let them speak to you each. I don't believe in "free" will. WIll can only be relatively free- free from some person or object's influence but absolutely determined. that's just my view. I Don't find this any sort of contradiction. it's just what seems true.
There are things behind thought in other words. Thought is powerful but there are things behind it, but Transformation tends tostick around, and learning tends to stick around. Thoughts that lead to learning and transformation change you forever and help one see opportunity, or see how the games are played. Insights (has the word 'sight' in it).
Ideally i would get girls by Going and Being-- because anyway what is the difference between Being and Doing? There is not a hard line and Both can be attractive, be desirable. I think Being is presence- bring all that you have become, and Doing is performance- show them what you got, and both can work together and sometimes that is required, but I posit that a 'natural' as most people use it is not someone who was born good but who is exhibiting the being that naturally results in doing- the guy on a roll, in the flow. no, not just that, not only that. that guy can still be performing. It's deeper. Old School.
BUT YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING IF YOU'RE NOT WHERE YOU NEED TO BE - in terms of what city or country (how'd you like to be in Gaza or the Ukraine? Most of us are lucky and i think about that every day. Forget ethnic privilege. Location privilege is privilege)-- and also in terms of what venues in a city.
Think and Get Sex and Romance and Love
I am not as good at these pathways.
Think and Understand the Moral Landscape and how to play with it and Get Better at Vibing and Get Sex, Love and Romance
Think and Learn How to Pull and Get more Love
Think and learn one's weak points and .. you know
And thinking is or can be hard work-- it an be like drilling because many people avoid the hard stuff but that's sometimes where the gold is, where the road is to success.
You don't always have to think!! That was not my point and i don't want to leave people with that message. It is possible to think too much and relax or be too little, or act spontaneously. It can result in or produce progressive change that's all i wanted to say
It was just an idea i wanted to share as a lead in actually to the last bit, which for me for what imost need everything has been leading up to
Think and Learn Where to Go and Go and Be and Exist in Places.
I realize i need to BE in good fields, social felds and I think I've learned to NAVIGATE them, but there's a whole other thing- harvesting or EXTRACTING from them- which i've been poor at. I"m getting better at harvesting income from real estate, although in the grand scheme i'm still small fries. i have not developed a luxury skyscraper in Manhattan or Golf Courses or whatever. I know I'm tiny by historic standards but I am harvesting the field, extracting, and i have to do that in other areas- exist and be with desired social capital but also be where the ones I like are..
A lot of things genuinely come down to whether you are moved by someone. Ambivalence is real and hardcore desire or interest is real. I have a type and when i see that type, I am the best i ever am, even if she's slightly less physically beautiful than others, and i can be put off by those others too if they don't have good manners or whatever. yeah i might still want to F them or conquer them (which is not likely) but I will not be as alert, as conscoius or in the zone. Ambivalence based on options is a real thing.. and this too is obviously going to be correlated to place.
I wasn't even talking about how to fit in or do well in a place cause that's too complicated but simply BEING there is the first thing- or being there as an adequate enough man to be allowed to be there, lets say.
If someone only place maxed- maybe lived in the islands off thailand and met cool chill people and tourists, or was at university in Montreal, or Iceland where things are fresh and beautiful, wherever it is- or the right places and venues in his own city. with love and all that, if you want a family it only takes one good woman and she can give you love love love love crazy love and kids but even that it can be harder to work with if there's scarcity dynamics. Church is also its own special place. the vibe is waaaay different, among women. I think a lot of women put in effort, and they want a man and know how to appreciate a man. I don't want easy mode- that's a misinterpretation. I want SANITY MODE. That's what i want and in many ways church as a place can give it. A tea shop middle eastern atheist friend was just talking about that yesterday since we ran ino each other. He was visiting churches though he's strongly atheist. We have had a lot of the same experiences and observations- about people, culture, church communities etc.
Nobody has probably read his far. That's fine it goes out into the void. Thank you for letting me develop my thoughts. I told you at the top you could stop with the simple idea
BE WHERE THINGS ARE GOOD or where they can actually happen. in a world of constraints though and trade offs and imperfect information and so on and so forth it can be easier said than done but i don't think there's any success wtihout it and i think there's a lot of life success and fulfillment with it, and i didn't even talk about the proximity effect, which has done wonders for me when i could make use of it
--short version
If you want to be successful, be where success happens- that is, things. Deals, connections, girls. That's the long and short of this and you can stop here if you like, but before you go let me ask you how you think you're doing in that realm of life with respect to current capacity (you could go there tomorrow and be welcome). Are you "place-maximizing" in all your endeavors? Don't even consider your performance or level of social capital and standing.
--- long version
I am not where i should be, not nearly enough, not with respect to dating.. and i am working on turning that ship around but i want to get philosophical.
This is not a system but there are four related ideas I'm holding in my mind: Thinking, Being (in one's self), Doing and Going (or Being in a place), and being has two parts- being in a given state and being at a certain level of growth or development in all the various areas.
This is not meant to be mystical and not meant to be a system. It's really simple. Thinking, being, doing, going. that's all there is i think. Doing includes speaking here. What else is there?
You can't get if you don't Go (Be in teh right place)-- so one has to find the place. I mean that's why covid pissed people off..and why phone culture maybe changed the game. We used to have the agora and the marketplace, the dance hall etc. Anyway i'm not here to rant or philosophize on that.
My main idea is this- revolving around change -- that is progressive change. we want what i call progressive, which means it's not cyclical, although that's part of life- RPMs or turnovers of things, cycles of rent collection (or for most people payment), of paychecks, of lift and rest in the gym and so on. cycles matter but the point of them is to have them serve you for progression (unless you're already on mt olympus or the elysian fields). So i call these things progressive. I want progressive thought. sometimes thoughts can get stuck, in loops or whatever. Sometimes they get unblocked and start becoming progressive. This is just my terminology. The point of this all is progressive change.
The idea is this. This is not my religion or anything- just recent thoughts i've been having. I am biasd towards action- when i know what action to take and when i can give it a true good faith effort. I have tried so much in my life, so many things - travelled, learned languages, worked numerous jobs-- a lot of my friends and people thougth i was crazy or wild- these midwestern small town people but i love them. I was vegan for a few years- (A LONG time ago when we didn't know a lot of things we know now and i did it for the science which i now realize was a lie. interestingly i also tried carivore recently, very strictly for 8 months and I can from that experience completely vouch for it. i felt great, maybe my best. i just don't do it completely becaues of the effort but i think that's a yamnaya pastoralist warrior's natural diet). I try things. I am biased towards action..
But i also value thought. As a man thinketh.. and all.
To steal a title, without necessarily getting into the material of it- Think and Grow Rich- is that possible? Or sub out rich for Think and Get Laid A lot and find Great Love, and all that, and so on and so forth? Is that real?
Yes in a way because in many ways thought is all we have but i will explain my thoughts and unpack them becaues they are more nuanced.
I say form a chain where it makes sense.
Think and Learn To Spot a Deal and Make a Deal and Grow Rich. There, you've completed a path.
Think and Learn how to Socialize, and Connect with People who have Deals, Make a Deal and Grow Rich
Think and Learn how to Grow True Wealth (e.g. acquire assets that generate income) and Do That and Grow Rich
So thought is what does it but there's a chain.
Now what'smost interesting for me right now is being in the right place -which in many ways i am not but i do not intend to complain. I just think objectively I am not finding the places (but i didn't always understand this) and this is stealing my months and years.
Maybe at a place there are people who want to make deals, or buy what you are selling, and all you literlaly have to do is go there, so it becomes
Think and Know where to Go and Go there and Do the Deal/Make the Sale and Grow Rich.
There's a logical chain so we can dispense with the mysticisim.
IncidentallyI do not know that we control our own thoughts. This gets into deep topics of what is the self, what is the "I". I think there are parts to the self. It is always good to integrate them, and let them speak to you each. I don't believe in "free" will. WIll can only be relatively free- free from some person or object's influence but absolutely determined. that's just my view. I Don't find this any sort of contradiction. it's just what seems true.
There are things behind thought in other words. Thought is powerful but there are things behind it, but Transformation tends tostick around, and learning tends to stick around. Thoughts that lead to learning and transformation change you forever and help one see opportunity, or see how the games are played. Insights (has the word 'sight' in it).
Ideally i would get girls by Going and Being-- because anyway what is the difference between Being and Doing? There is not a hard line and Both can be attractive, be desirable. I think Being is presence- bring all that you have become, and Doing is performance- show them what you got, and both can work together and sometimes that is required, but I posit that a 'natural' as most people use it is not someone who was born good but who is exhibiting the being that naturally results in doing- the guy on a roll, in the flow. no, not just that, not only that. that guy can still be performing. It's deeper. Old School.
BUT YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING IF YOU'RE NOT WHERE YOU NEED TO BE - in terms of what city or country (how'd you like to be in Gaza or the Ukraine? Most of us are lucky and i think about that every day. Forget ethnic privilege. Location privilege is privilege)-- and also in terms of what venues in a city.
Think and Get Sex and Romance and Love
I am not as good at these pathways.
Think and Understand the Moral Landscape and how to play with it and Get Better at Vibing and Get Sex, Love and Romance
Think and Learn How to Pull and Get more Love
Think and learn one's weak points and .. you know
And thinking is or can be hard work-- it an be like drilling because many people avoid the hard stuff but that's sometimes where the gold is, where the road is to success.
You don't always have to think!! That was not my point and i don't want to leave people with that message. It is possible to think too much and relax or be too little, or act spontaneously. It can result in or produce progressive change that's all i wanted to say
It was just an idea i wanted to share as a lead in actually to the last bit, which for me for what imost need everything has been leading up to
Think and Learn Where to Go and Go and Be and Exist in Places.
I realize i need to BE in good fields, social felds and I think I've learned to NAVIGATE them, but there's a whole other thing- harvesting or EXTRACTING from them- which i've been poor at. I"m getting better at harvesting income from real estate, although in the grand scheme i'm still small fries. i have not developed a luxury skyscraper in Manhattan or Golf Courses or whatever. I know I'm tiny by historic standards but I am harvesting the field, extracting, and i have to do that in other areas- exist and be with desired social capital but also be where the ones I like are..
A lot of things genuinely come down to whether you are moved by someone. Ambivalence is real and hardcore desire or interest is real. I have a type and when i see that type, I am the best i ever am, even if she's slightly less physically beautiful than others, and i can be put off by those others too if they don't have good manners or whatever. yeah i might still want to F them or conquer them (which is not likely) but I will not be as alert, as conscoius or in the zone. Ambivalence based on options is a real thing.. and this too is obviously going to be correlated to place.
I wasn't even talking about how to fit in or do well in a place cause that's too complicated but simply BEING there is the first thing- or being there as an adequate enough man to be allowed to be there, lets say.
If someone only place maxed- maybe lived in the islands off thailand and met cool chill people and tourists, or was at university in Montreal, or Iceland where things are fresh and beautiful, wherever it is- or the right places and venues in his own city. with love and all that, if you want a family it only takes one good woman and she can give you love love love love crazy love and kids but even that it can be harder to work with if there's scarcity dynamics. Church is also its own special place. the vibe is waaaay different, among women. I think a lot of women put in effort, and they want a man and know how to appreciate a man. I don't want easy mode- that's a misinterpretation. I want SANITY MODE. That's what i want and in many ways church as a place can give it. A tea shop middle eastern atheist friend was just talking about that yesterday since we ran ino each other. He was visiting churches though he's strongly atheist. We have had a lot of the same experiences and observations- about people, culture, church communities etc.
Nobody has probably read his far. That's fine it goes out into the void. Thank you for letting me develop my thoughts. I told you at the top you could stop with the simple idea
BE WHERE THINGS ARE GOOD or where they can actually happen. in a world of constraints though and trade offs and imperfect information and so on and so forth it can be easier said than done but i don't think there's any success wtihout it and i think there's a lot of life success and fulfillment with it, and i didn't even talk about the proximity effect, which has done wonders for me when i could make use of it
