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I had an interesting experience last night which I thought was worth a post.
My grandmother wanted to see the new place so we had a pre dinner drink here, and then she took me to her tennis club for dinner as she's been promising to do. This club is pretty expensive / exclusive.
So in the car I was asking a bit about the club, does she get to know the staff etc, she said there is a bit of a turnover but they are always very kind and nice. So I said we'll have to see if we can get a bit of conversation going then, and she agreed. I thought I'd do the usual chatting-up-the-waitress manouevre but actually I was in the presence of the master so no need / didn't get a chance hahaha.
When we came in it was pretty busy but they found us a table, apparently they know her because her name was on the bill later and I didn't see her show any card or anything like that. After we sat down she's immediately added some touch, pulling the waitress in to her, and started with some compliance demands, "We'll have some bread, this, that, etc"... she never said please or thank you or phrased anything as a request, but her tonality was spot on and it came over very smooth and gentle, I was awestruck.
I digress to say that my grandfather was a successful businessman and they used to entertain international clients / suppliers constantly and go on buying trips and be entertained in fancy places across the world (from what I've been told) so she apparently has a bit of practice at this game, she can be a pretty grumpy old chook at times, especially when she is drunk (I found her behaviour offensive at Christmas, basically AMOGed me, but I handled it well per GC training), but I had forgotten how charismatic she can be when she gets it out
So we've discussed what we wanted to drink and she's had the waitress back over and started asking about this bottle of champagne which is much cheaper than what is on the menu and apparently very good, when this arrived she's also complimented the waitress on her skin among other things, what a charmer... I had been planning to compliment her on her nails but when I had a closer look I decided not to call attention to them after all... and was a little stuck but my grandmother is much more attuned to what is important to girls I'll definitely have to use that one later, though I do remember complimenting a girl on her skin about 3wks ago (after she said she as vegetarian), but I must do it more often.
So I've belatedly got into the game with "I see your name is (her name)..." introduced myself with a handshake and some EC... then "So do you have to undertake a lengthy training to work in a fancy restaurant like this?", got a little chitchat going but she didn't give me heaps of material for a deep dive. At one point I've addressed her by name to call her over when we'd been given the wrong menus, and I find this a useful move although it tends to surprise them a bit.
Unfortunately waitress-girl then got busy with other tables and we mostly had male waiters from then on, I did get out some compliments on the service to one of them and a little chitchat but nothing substantial.
So I guess the point of this post is to say that GC is to some extent rediscovering lost arts from a time when everyone was just more sophisticated socially (after all they had "finishing schools" and so on, just to teach social dynamics etc), but also that the fundamentals never change and that game advice is not just about game, it's about leading a better life and improving your interactions, and the principles learned are applicable by anyone, anywhere!
I mentioned to my grandmother that I've been receiving advice from a friend who is a dating coach and we talked about social dynamics a bit. Also, I think I was pretty good company to her, also by applying GC principles although I was not trying that hard, just making it about her and so on. She commented as we returned to the car that she's had a wonderful conversation with me and she feels I "get it" and various other stuff along those lines, I was kind of surprised but happy.
-Ray
PS. I was also fired up to do an approach which led to an insta date after getting home at 11pm, this is in my journal, game definitely seems to be improving despite the fact I didn't get it out much during this outing
My grandmother wanted to see the new place so we had a pre dinner drink here, and then she took me to her tennis club for dinner as she's been promising to do. This club is pretty expensive / exclusive.
So in the car I was asking a bit about the club, does she get to know the staff etc, she said there is a bit of a turnover but they are always very kind and nice. So I said we'll have to see if we can get a bit of conversation going then, and she agreed. I thought I'd do the usual chatting-up-the-waitress manouevre but actually I was in the presence of the master so no need / didn't get a chance hahaha.
When we came in it was pretty busy but they found us a table, apparently they know her because her name was on the bill later and I didn't see her show any card or anything like that. After we sat down she's immediately added some touch, pulling the waitress in to her, and started with some compliance demands, "We'll have some bread, this, that, etc"... she never said please or thank you or phrased anything as a request, but her tonality was spot on and it came over very smooth and gentle, I was awestruck.
I digress to say that my grandfather was a successful businessman and they used to entertain international clients / suppliers constantly and go on buying trips and be entertained in fancy places across the world (from what I've been told) so she apparently has a bit of practice at this game, she can be a pretty grumpy old chook at times, especially when she is drunk (I found her behaviour offensive at Christmas, basically AMOGed me, but I handled it well per GC training), but I had forgotten how charismatic she can be when she gets it out
So we've discussed what we wanted to drink and she's had the waitress back over and started asking about this bottle of champagne which is much cheaper than what is on the menu and apparently very good, when this arrived she's also complimented the waitress on her skin among other things, what a charmer... I had been planning to compliment her on her nails but when I had a closer look I decided not to call attention to them after all... and was a little stuck but my grandmother is much more attuned to what is important to girls
I'll definitely have to use that one later, though I do remember complimenting a girl on her skin about 3wks ago (after she said she as vegetarian), but I must do it more often.So I've belatedly got into the game with "I see your name is (her name)..." introduced myself with a handshake and some EC... then "So do you have to undertake a lengthy training to work in a fancy restaurant like this?", got a little chitchat going but she didn't give me heaps of material for a deep dive. At one point I've addressed her by name to call her over when we'd been given the wrong menus, and I find this a useful move although it tends to surprise them a bit.
Unfortunately waitress-girl then got busy with other tables and we mostly had male waiters from then on, I did get out some compliments on the service to one of them and a little chitchat but nothing substantial.
So I guess the point of this post is to say that GC is to some extent rediscovering lost arts from a time when everyone was just more sophisticated socially (after all they had "finishing schools" and so on, just to teach social dynamics etc), but also that the fundamentals never change and that game advice is not just about game, it's about leading a better life and improving your interactions, and the principles learned are applicable by anyone, anywhere!
I mentioned to my grandmother that I've been receiving advice from a friend who is a dating coach and we talked about social dynamics a bit. Also, I think I was pretty good company to her, also by applying GC principles although I was not trying that hard, just making it about her and so on. She commented as we returned to the car that she's had a wonderful conversation with me and she feels I "get it" and various other stuff along those lines, I was kind of surprised but happy.
-Ray
PS. I was also fired up to do an approach which led to an insta date after getting home at 11pm, this is in my journal, game definitely seems to be improving despite the fact I didn't get it out much during this outing
