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Allow me to address the title, this is normally what I do, but I didn't realise there was a name for it.
I went out to my small approaching city with one goal last night:
Do one approach.
That was achieved within 5 minutes of getting off the bus. The bus was also an old single decker rather than the double decker bus they usually run on the route, so that put me off to a bad start. I got off a bit before the bus station as it makes me more nervous when I wait until the bus station.
Me and my old wing were discussing the night before about how we are getting nothing from daygame and nothing from nightgame. My mood is not an optimistic one but somehow I really put the work in. I am there from 2130 to 2300, so a good 75 minutes in the field.
But boy is this going to be a brutal field report. I got asked to leave a venue after doing only 2 approaches. Just two. I also got into a confrontation with a young lad outside another venue when a girl in the group he was in accused me of starring at her!
About 9 blondes and 1 brunette just came storming round the corner with this young chavy lad as their protector. I don't think he was even her boyfriend.
Generally, my approaches are not appreciated, which is disappointing, given that I am putting my balls on the line each time.
I am hitting the club next weekend which I have booked an Airbnb for which will serve as my home base and allow me to rest a bit more.
But don't forget, I work Saturdays, which means I am up at 7am, on the bus to work and then (assuming I haven't booked an Airbnb) means that I have to take the bus back to my town, have something to eat, then take the bus back to my approaching city.
Anyway,onto the action. The volume was good tonight and there were hotties everywhere. But it is not that simple, as we are about to find out.
Approach 1
A 2 set on their way to the club. I did well, I approached direct with "you look good" and surprisingly, it hooked, just as I thought it was going to be a blowout. I did some small talk and then wished them on with their night, I just needed a normal interaction to help myself feel sociable and normal so I ejected earlier than I should have, before it got awkward. I feel like it was too soon to ask for a number without cementing a date, first.
Approach 2
Right after the last one, a complete blowout met with "no thanks" then I heard the girl mutter something which I couldn't make out.
I put my arms out to the sides to kind of "funnel" them towards me.
I do get paranoid that they have seen me walking around approaching before but it is a non factor, as Jocko Willink would say. I can't control the uncontrollables.
Transition:
I walk from the highstreet to the side street of There is a group of 4 milfs outside a venue together, I want to do a compliment approach but they are acting quite loudly and singing so I don't approach. I struggle to interrupt groups when they are talking with one another and feel without the right energy, it will come across as creepy.
I over thought it as usual! I am walking to the venue and seeing groups but I don't say anything as I am feeling in my head.
Approach 3&4 (venue)
I go to the games bar and almost don't walk in, as venues make me very anxious. On this occasion once, it seems that there is surprisingly good volume and clearly defined groups of males and females who don't know each other which is rare in this venue and indeed in general in my small approaching city. Usually it's a load of big groups of people all intermixed which makes approaching feel quite fraught, especially as they usually go there to celebrate various events and play the games they have on offer.
I really struggle with venue approaches due to the security, but tonight, I am feeling fired up as I have a club session booked for next weekend so I wanted to approach more indoors to hone my skills.
I see a pair of chicks sat on their own so I go over to them. I find I struggle when I see girls on their own because it feels like some kind of "trap" like they are not alone and waiting for their boyfriends who are going to come out of nowhere and knock me out.
And even if that is not the case, it feels like I am being predatory by approaching but then I remind myself that as men, we are natural hunters and it's okay to go after what we want in life, even the low hanging fruit of a couple of girls sat by themselves. As it happens, in this case, they were just 2 girls sat at a table on their own, no aggressive boyfriends in sight!
So I approach the 2 set and here's what's up. To begin with, they can't hear what I am saying due to the music. I use my casual "how's your night going" opener.
I think they eventually get the gist of it. I try asking them a couple more questions and during this time, the security come over and ask me to take down my hood, which I didn't realise was still up. I oblige but it gives the interaction a bit more awkwardness.
I continue the interaction until the girl's friend asks me to leave, which is fair enough, but I honestly have no idea what I should have done here, since they couldn't hear me at all and I can barely hear them unless it's something unambiguous like "can you leave us alone".
So I leave them, which is fine.
Then I go over to another group of girls and I pick one out and tell her that I think she is very pretty, a bold and direct opener. It is a quick rejection and and fairly straight forward, I didn't think anything of it.
I decide to leave some time before my next approach so as not to attract the attention from security. I stand with some lads playing on the punch bag machine and take an interest in what they are doing.
There is a quite chubby chick in a revealing back dress (revealing her back area) which I decide I am going to approach next.
Before I get the chance to, however, the security guard comes along and pulls me aside and asks me to leave with him. Now, this guy is only doing his job and is totally cool about it.
He says the management have reported that I am making the women feel uncomfortable. I have only done 2 approaches FFS. Two! This has to be some kind of record.
I decide to come clean and say "bro, I'm only trying to get laid" and he says he understands. This guy is a believer of the black pill and says "you gotta have looks or money" which we both agree on. He says he is not an expert himself and acknowledges that I am not doing anything inherently wrong but it has come down from the management of the bar.
He is cool about it. I think a lot of guys are not getting anything these days so it's maybe trickling down into day to day society.
Now you know why I am so on edge inside venues! I didn't even notice anyone looking.
I remonstrate with him that you can't "put yourself out there" and be invisible at the same time. You are gonna attract some attention and people are gonna notice. I ask if I will be allowed back in and he says it depends on the management's decision.
So according to the management, I am a terrible bad guy for doing two approaches. One of which lasted no more than 20 seconds, the other being a proper set. Even if I am allowed back there, it basically means I can't approach any sets that I see.
Anyway, I use the interaction to get socially warmed up and bit and ask him what time he is finishing etc. I wish him a good night and walk back to the main part of town.
I probably did another approach on my way to approach 3 but I don't remember it, so it was probably a blowout.
Approach 3
A 4 set outside the shop, they were standing around, this slim blonde with a boob top caught my attention, I went boldly and told her she looked GOOD. Then her friends said she had a boyfriend and they started messing about making barking dog noises and being dramatic. It is what it is, I've made my approach, it's just annoying. She did come back and thank he for the approach a couple of minutes later and apologised for her drunk friends so there is that. I just don't see this leading to getting laid with so much drunken silliness getting in the way. It was a bold approach, I really projected my voice and emphasised the "good" part. I felt strong and dominant. I appreciated my efforts.
Approach 4
Right after the last approach with was annoying, I decide to try to front stop a 3 set of hotties. Unfortunately, I rush in with you much enthusiasm and end up scaring the group, resulting in a blowout. It was because I wanted to keep the momentum going from the previous approach and also to show that the spotlight won't effect me as the previous approachee's were still within visual distance.
Approach 5
I see a pair of stunners just standing together. Again, I hesitate on these approaches because it feels like some sort of a trap.
Now, this isn't a pleasant interaction for me. There is a taller blonde and a shorter brunette, I compliment them both as I would be happy with either one, but the taller blonde seems to be the main one talking back.
I ask them where they are going and they say they are getting something to eat which I say sounds a "bit dull for a night out" and then say "I thought you were on a night out" to which they say they are.
Then I say "So where are you going after that then" and the blonde one says something like "A venue" and I say "what type of venue" she says "The Venue, it's the uni night club". I then come back with "Oh, you are at uni then". I don't know what happened here but I don't think they were at uni.
Now, about 1/2 way through this interaction, the brunette has turned her back to me, which I know is not a good sign. But I say to myself "Not tonight" I am gonna burn this set to the ground!". So it ends in them making their excuses and leaving. I can feel they bring that awkward energy and the set is blown.
I actually nearly approach them later in the night, but they weren't going to the uni night club, they were going to the one in town! It seems like they lied because they thought I was weird. Anyway, what do they think is gonna happen. It's pathetic, just because they think I'm a creep.
Approach 6
A 3 set, I didn't front stop but approached from the side on the girl closest to me. I told her I think she looked very pretty and got a genuine thanks in response. It seemed she wanted to leave it at that so I did. It was a side approach so not the best but it gained a positive response. I could have done a front stop but didn't want to over hesitate. I seem to remember up close she wasn't my type as much, so I didn't really commit.
I am missing a few sets so I may have done another approach after this one which resulted in a blowout, but I can't remember them. I know I did 12 sets in total with some times gaps in-between.
Venue 2
By this time, I need to take a pee so I go inside a venue. It is a casual bar type venue with cheap alcohol which is what makes it popular. The guards are different from the usual guy who has a very chilled out aura about him. This time they are different and ask to see my ID. I don't usually bring ID so I show him my bus pass and under the pretense that I just want to get in to use the bathroom anyway, which I do.
I can see from outside that it is packed and it does cross my mind that there could be potential approach targets in there. I use the restroom then I have a look around, feeling conscious of the pretenses that I got in on.
I did spot one possible IOI, a girl looked at me for a split second, then looked away. It was the briefest of glances and she was in a group with guys in it so I don't dare approach. And also I think it was too brief of a glance to be an IOI, more an IOD.
But due to how crowded it was, I couldn't get within the proximity of anybody to do an approach and with the incident in the previous venue, I didn't want to push my luck and this venue is not geared to approaching. It seems that alcohol is so interesting to these chicks rather than them being interested in men! I find it all so tiresome.
So, I decide not to push my luck anymore in the venue as I need "safe houses" where I can take a pee and a rest and it seems even 1 approach is enough to get you asked to leave if the girl doesn't like it.
I walk back from the venue to the highstreet and then double back on myself as it is busy. But I don't want the security from the venue to see me as I have a bad feeling about it and I have ignored my intuition in the past only to find out that it was right all along. I don't want them to deny me entry due to seeing me hanging around as I need the aforementioned safe house.
I have a memory blank as to what I did before the next bit, I think I might have done another approach but I can't remember. There are definitely 3 approaches which I cannot recall, I have tried but I am drawing a blank.
So I post up outside a venue which is popular with a lot of girls. There are many young stunners coming and going, all in big groups though. Outside this same venue a couple of weeks ago, the bouncer said he wouldn't let me in due to my behaviour. I was only hovering around on the street outside, which is not part of the venue. I don't want to get on their radar as it is an approaching goldmine here.
Anyway, this time, I post up slightly down from the entrance, outside, where he can't see me but I can still see the girls coming and going. There really are some stunners but finding the right moment to approach is fraught with difficulty.
During this time, a friendly guy starts chatting to me. I just find people from other countries far more friendly and open than English people. This chap is at uni studying business and we chop it up for a few minutes.
These interactions are really appreciated when out night gaming as it is good to have allies out on these mean streets. I mention how busy it is and we are both surprised by the volume of girls.
When the conversation dies down, this group of absolute stunners come around the corner, about 9 blondes and a brunette.
Now, just from their appearance, I can tell they are chavy and local (translation for non English people:lower class).
I know there is no chance of an approach working or even how to approach such a huge set and even which one to pick, which was ironically what I was thinking when I was looking at the brunette.
Well it looks like the brunette essentially "picked" herself, as she was the one I noticed the most.
She says "Are you going to keep staring at me" and I say the only thing you can say after such an accusations "Yes". I am here to ruffle feathers and I don't care. It is time to stand up and be counted. I am fed up of walking on eggshells around these sorts of people.
There appears to be one male in the group and he decides to be a white knight and calls me a nonce. A UK word for pervert.
I decide that I am not going to take that so I say "Hey, how can I be a nonce for looking when she is dressed like that", as I follow in the group's direction.
He turns to confront and double down on calling me a nonce I think there might have been a confrontation, but I remained calm and logical about it, then he backs down and apologises, patting me on the back. And I apologize for the perceived slight, as I have won the confrontation and wanted to help him save face.
For a moment, I thought I was going to have to floor him, like I did last Christmas with another young buck outside a venue.
So I go back to my usual spot after having had to follow him part way to the venue in order to remonstrate with him. These girls look good but they are very aggressive, generally if they are from a lower social economic background and are no strangers to causing drama.
I get back chatting with the guy from earlier who seems to have missed the drama just to get myself lack into a sociable mood.
I actually think the lad in the group who called me a nonce may have seen me chatting with this guy and thought we knew each other well and were friends so maybe that encouraged him to back down when confronted. Either way, I appreciate this Somali university student for engaging with me as the moral support was much appreciated.
He is smoking like a chimney though and cigarette smoke always seems to find it's way into my nostrils so eventually we part ways and I go out to look for more approaches.
Approach 7
A set outside near the venue where I was hanging out near the entrance of, dressed in black leather type outfits. I attempt a front stop and complimented them on their outfits but before I could finish, they were like "no, no, something something creep/freak". I think they may have seen me before. I fire back with "that's fine, your actually fat" which garners an "F off" from them. Maybe they saw the incident outside the venue? But retaliating feels empowering and I shouldn't tolerate disrespect.
Approach 8
I went to the other end of the high street and found a 2 set who walked past me, whom I didn't approach as they were coming up walking the same direction as me as it was a dark part of the high street and didn't want to approach as there weren't many other people around. They went down a street and then came back, when they were coming back I thought "fuck it" and approached them. I went to the brunette and said I think she looked gorgeous, to which she unenthusiastically uttered "thanks" and walked off. It was a blowout. Maybe they were a bit young, I don't know.
Approach 9
I approached a 2 set who turned out to be from a neighbouring town who were on their way to the train station. They had to catch their last train back They were from the town town where I got into a confrontation with the bouncer for approaching girls that he thought were too young for me to approach. Although I haven't been officially banned, I haven't been back since.
Anyway, this set seemed somewhat receptive, but I cut the interaction short because 1. I was starting to run out of things to say and I could feel the creepy feeling creeping up and 2. My bus was due in 7 minutes and it was the last bus of the night. If I missed it, I would be sleeping in the gym, which would get me banned again as I've only just renewed my membership with a new account.
Well, I am missing 3 approaches. I can assure you guys, I did 12 in total, including the 2 in the venue, so 10 in the street. But I am missing 3 of them.
The missing approaches were probably a couple of brief blowouts as well.
My observations from last night
It seems like you can't really approach under the radar in certain venues. By making even 1 approach you are inviting the spotlight onto yourself.
I find nightgame to be generally a hostile atmosphere, it's very bleak and unforgiving. I honestly can't see how you can get laid like this. The only good thing is the volume and the fact that you know everyone is 18+ so it takes that variable out of it and therefore you can approach more with less hesitation.
I couldn't approach 12 sets in 75 minutes during daygame even if I approached every girl where I couldn't tell how old they were and approached in all sorts of awkward situations like in shops or when they were talking in the phone, carrying loads of shopping, browsing the ladies section in a clothes shop, etc.
So night game (gutter game) is better for volume and approach opportunities than daygame but the trouble is I seem to have little in common with them. They are so preoccupied with venues, alcohol and generally being up their own asses that I can't compete with at that.
And then you of course have venues which hold a lot of people but have security interfering with the approaches. I really can't see how I can pull anything off in this environment at all.
The timing is also very inconvenient and down right unpleasant as we head into the cold, wet and dark winter months. There is nothing I like more than being tucked up cosily in bed at night. Not walking up and down the highstreet getting rejected.
I feel like I am going to start winding down night game but I don't have anything else to replace it with. Daygame simply doesn't provide the volume of hotties that night game does. However, I would welcome not having my sleep disrupted and the anxiety of going out at night.
Any tips etc would be greatly appreciated. I really do wonder how people here are approaching and the reactions they get compared to mine.
I still can't find any coach who coaches night game although I do have some daygame coaching planned soon.
I went out to my small approaching city with one goal last night:
Do one approach.
That was achieved within 5 minutes of getting off the bus. The bus was also an old single decker rather than the double decker bus they usually run on the route, so that put me off to a bad start. I got off a bit before the bus station as it makes me more nervous when I wait until the bus station.
Me and my old wing were discussing the night before about how we are getting nothing from daygame and nothing from nightgame. My mood is not an optimistic one but somehow I really put the work in. I am there from 2130 to 2300, so a good 75 minutes in the field.
But boy is this going to be a brutal field report. I got asked to leave a venue after doing only 2 approaches. Just two. I also got into a confrontation with a young lad outside another venue when a girl in the group he was in accused me of starring at her!
About 9 blondes and 1 brunette just came storming round the corner with this young chavy lad as their protector. I don't think he was even her boyfriend.
Generally, my approaches are not appreciated, which is disappointing, given that I am putting my balls on the line each time.
I am hitting the club next weekend which I have booked an Airbnb for which will serve as my home base and allow me to rest a bit more.
But don't forget, I work Saturdays, which means I am up at 7am, on the bus to work and then (assuming I haven't booked an Airbnb) means that I have to take the bus back to my town, have something to eat, then take the bus back to my approaching city.
Anyway,onto the action. The volume was good tonight and there were hotties everywhere. But it is not that simple, as we are about to find out.
Approach 1
A 2 set on their way to the club. I did well, I approached direct with "you look good" and surprisingly, it hooked, just as I thought it was going to be a blowout. I did some small talk and then wished them on with their night, I just needed a normal interaction to help myself feel sociable and normal so I ejected earlier than I should have, before it got awkward. I feel like it was too soon to ask for a number without cementing a date, first.
Approach 2
Right after the last one, a complete blowout met with "no thanks" then I heard the girl mutter something which I couldn't make out.
I put my arms out to the sides to kind of "funnel" them towards me.
I do get paranoid that they have seen me walking around approaching before but it is a non factor, as Jocko Willink would say. I can't control the uncontrollables.
Transition:
I walk from the highstreet to the side street of There is a group of 4 milfs outside a venue together, I want to do a compliment approach but they are acting quite loudly and singing so I don't approach. I struggle to interrupt groups when they are talking with one another and feel without the right energy, it will come across as creepy.
I over thought it as usual! I am walking to the venue and seeing groups but I don't say anything as I am feeling in my head.
Approach 3&4 (venue)
I go to the games bar and almost don't walk in, as venues make me very anxious. On this occasion once, it seems that there is surprisingly good volume and clearly defined groups of males and females who don't know each other which is rare in this venue and indeed in general in my small approaching city. Usually it's a load of big groups of people all intermixed which makes approaching feel quite fraught, especially as they usually go there to celebrate various events and play the games they have on offer.
I really struggle with venue approaches due to the security, but tonight, I am feeling fired up as I have a club session booked for next weekend so I wanted to approach more indoors to hone my skills.
I see a pair of chicks sat on their own so I go over to them. I find I struggle when I see girls on their own because it feels like some kind of "trap" like they are not alone and waiting for their boyfriends who are going to come out of nowhere and knock me out.
And even if that is not the case, it feels like I am being predatory by approaching but then I remind myself that as men, we are natural hunters and it's okay to go after what we want in life, even the low hanging fruit of a couple of girls sat by themselves. As it happens, in this case, they were just 2 girls sat at a table on their own, no aggressive boyfriends in sight!
So I approach the 2 set and here's what's up. To begin with, they can't hear what I am saying due to the music. I use my casual "how's your night going" opener.
I think they eventually get the gist of it. I try asking them a couple more questions and during this time, the security come over and ask me to take down my hood, which I didn't realise was still up. I oblige but it gives the interaction a bit more awkwardness.
I continue the interaction until the girl's friend asks me to leave, which is fair enough, but I honestly have no idea what I should have done here, since they couldn't hear me at all and I can barely hear them unless it's something unambiguous like "can you leave us alone".
So I leave them, which is fine.
Then I go over to another group of girls and I pick one out and tell her that I think she is very pretty, a bold and direct opener. It is a quick rejection and and fairly straight forward, I didn't think anything of it.
I decide to leave some time before my next approach so as not to attract the attention from security. I stand with some lads playing on the punch bag machine and take an interest in what they are doing.
There is a quite chubby chick in a revealing back dress (revealing her back area) which I decide I am going to approach next.
Before I get the chance to, however, the security guard comes along and pulls me aside and asks me to leave with him. Now, this guy is only doing his job and is totally cool about it.
He says the management have reported that I am making the women feel uncomfortable. I have only done 2 approaches FFS. Two! This has to be some kind of record.
I decide to come clean and say "bro, I'm only trying to get laid" and he says he understands. This guy is a believer of the black pill and says "you gotta have looks or money" which we both agree on. He says he is not an expert himself and acknowledges that I am not doing anything inherently wrong but it has come down from the management of the bar.
He is cool about it. I think a lot of guys are not getting anything these days so it's maybe trickling down into day to day society.
Now you know why I am so on edge inside venues! I didn't even notice anyone looking.
I remonstrate with him that you can't "put yourself out there" and be invisible at the same time. You are gonna attract some attention and people are gonna notice. I ask if I will be allowed back in and he says it depends on the management's decision.
So according to the management, I am a terrible bad guy for doing two approaches. One of which lasted no more than 20 seconds, the other being a proper set. Even if I am allowed back there, it basically means I can't approach any sets that I see.
Anyway, I use the interaction to get socially warmed up and bit and ask him what time he is finishing etc. I wish him a good night and walk back to the main part of town.
I probably did another approach on my way to approach 3 but I don't remember it, so it was probably a blowout.
Approach 3
A 4 set outside the shop, they were standing around, this slim blonde with a boob top caught my attention, I went boldly and told her she looked GOOD. Then her friends said she had a boyfriend and they started messing about making barking dog noises and being dramatic. It is what it is, I've made my approach, it's just annoying. She did come back and thank he for the approach a couple of minutes later and apologised for her drunk friends so there is that. I just don't see this leading to getting laid with so much drunken silliness getting in the way. It was a bold approach, I really projected my voice and emphasised the "good" part. I felt strong and dominant. I appreciated my efforts.
Approach 4
Right after the last approach with was annoying, I decide to try to front stop a 3 set of hotties. Unfortunately, I rush in with you much enthusiasm and end up scaring the group, resulting in a blowout. It was because I wanted to keep the momentum going from the previous approach and also to show that the spotlight won't effect me as the previous approachee's were still within visual distance.
Approach 5
I see a pair of stunners just standing together. Again, I hesitate on these approaches because it feels like some sort of a trap.
Now, this isn't a pleasant interaction for me. There is a taller blonde and a shorter brunette, I compliment them both as I would be happy with either one, but the taller blonde seems to be the main one talking back.
I ask them where they are going and they say they are getting something to eat which I say sounds a "bit dull for a night out" and then say "I thought you were on a night out" to which they say they are.
Then I say "So where are you going after that then" and the blonde one says something like "A venue" and I say "what type of venue" she says "The Venue, it's the uni night club". I then come back with "Oh, you are at uni then". I don't know what happened here but I don't think they were at uni.
Now, about 1/2 way through this interaction, the brunette has turned her back to me, which I know is not a good sign. But I say to myself "Not tonight" I am gonna burn this set to the ground!". So it ends in them making their excuses and leaving. I can feel they bring that awkward energy and the set is blown.
I actually nearly approach them later in the night, but they weren't going to the uni night club, they were going to the one in town! It seems like they lied because they thought I was weird. Anyway, what do they think is gonna happen. It's pathetic, just because they think I'm a creep.
Approach 6
A 3 set, I didn't front stop but approached from the side on the girl closest to me. I told her I think she looked very pretty and got a genuine thanks in response. It seemed she wanted to leave it at that so I did. It was a side approach so not the best but it gained a positive response. I could have done a front stop but didn't want to over hesitate. I seem to remember up close she wasn't my type as much, so I didn't really commit.
I am missing a few sets so I may have done another approach after this one which resulted in a blowout, but I can't remember them. I know I did 12 sets in total with some times gaps in-between.
Venue 2
By this time, I need to take a pee so I go inside a venue. It is a casual bar type venue with cheap alcohol which is what makes it popular. The guards are different from the usual guy who has a very chilled out aura about him. This time they are different and ask to see my ID. I don't usually bring ID so I show him my bus pass and under the pretense that I just want to get in to use the bathroom anyway, which I do.
I can see from outside that it is packed and it does cross my mind that there could be potential approach targets in there. I use the restroom then I have a look around, feeling conscious of the pretenses that I got in on.
I did spot one possible IOI, a girl looked at me for a split second, then looked away. It was the briefest of glances and she was in a group with guys in it so I don't dare approach. And also I think it was too brief of a glance to be an IOI, more an IOD.
But due to how crowded it was, I couldn't get within the proximity of anybody to do an approach and with the incident in the previous venue, I didn't want to push my luck and this venue is not geared to approaching. It seems that alcohol is so interesting to these chicks rather than them being interested in men! I find it all so tiresome.
So, I decide not to push my luck anymore in the venue as I need "safe houses" where I can take a pee and a rest and it seems even 1 approach is enough to get you asked to leave if the girl doesn't like it.
I walk back from the venue to the highstreet and then double back on myself as it is busy. But I don't want the security from the venue to see me as I have a bad feeling about it and I have ignored my intuition in the past only to find out that it was right all along. I don't want them to deny me entry due to seeing me hanging around as I need the aforementioned safe house.
I have a memory blank as to what I did before the next bit, I think I might have done another approach but I can't remember. There are definitely 3 approaches which I cannot recall, I have tried but I am drawing a blank.
So I post up outside a venue which is popular with a lot of girls. There are many young stunners coming and going, all in big groups though. Outside this same venue a couple of weeks ago, the bouncer said he wouldn't let me in due to my behaviour. I was only hovering around on the street outside, which is not part of the venue. I don't want to get on their radar as it is an approaching goldmine here.
Anyway, this time, I post up slightly down from the entrance, outside, where he can't see me but I can still see the girls coming and going. There really are some stunners but finding the right moment to approach is fraught with difficulty.
During this time, a friendly guy starts chatting to me. I just find people from other countries far more friendly and open than English people. This chap is at uni studying business and we chop it up for a few minutes.
These interactions are really appreciated when out night gaming as it is good to have allies out on these mean streets. I mention how busy it is and we are both surprised by the volume of girls.
When the conversation dies down, this group of absolute stunners come around the corner, about 9 blondes and a brunette.
Now, just from their appearance, I can tell they are chavy and local (translation for non English people:lower class).
I know there is no chance of an approach working or even how to approach such a huge set and even which one to pick, which was ironically what I was thinking when I was looking at the brunette.
Well it looks like the brunette essentially "picked" herself, as she was the one I noticed the most.
She says "Are you going to keep staring at me" and I say the only thing you can say after such an accusations "Yes". I am here to ruffle feathers and I don't care. It is time to stand up and be counted. I am fed up of walking on eggshells around these sorts of people.
There appears to be one male in the group and he decides to be a white knight and calls me a nonce. A UK word for pervert.
I decide that I am not going to take that so I say "Hey, how can I be a nonce for looking when she is dressed like that", as I follow in the group's direction.
He turns to confront and double down on calling me a nonce I think there might have been a confrontation, but I remained calm and logical about it, then he backs down and apologises, patting me on the back. And I apologize for the perceived slight, as I have won the confrontation and wanted to help him save face.
For a moment, I thought I was going to have to floor him, like I did last Christmas with another young buck outside a venue.
So I go back to my usual spot after having had to follow him part way to the venue in order to remonstrate with him. These girls look good but they are very aggressive, generally if they are from a lower social economic background and are no strangers to causing drama.
I get back chatting with the guy from earlier who seems to have missed the drama just to get myself lack into a sociable mood.
I actually think the lad in the group who called me a nonce may have seen me chatting with this guy and thought we knew each other well and were friends so maybe that encouraged him to back down when confronted. Either way, I appreciate this Somali university student for engaging with me as the moral support was much appreciated.
He is smoking like a chimney though and cigarette smoke always seems to find it's way into my nostrils so eventually we part ways and I go out to look for more approaches.
Approach 7
A set outside near the venue where I was hanging out near the entrance of, dressed in black leather type outfits. I attempt a front stop and complimented them on their outfits but before I could finish, they were like "no, no, something something creep/freak". I think they may have seen me before. I fire back with "that's fine, your actually fat" which garners an "F off" from them. Maybe they saw the incident outside the venue? But retaliating feels empowering and I shouldn't tolerate disrespect.
Approach 8
I went to the other end of the high street and found a 2 set who walked past me, whom I didn't approach as they were coming up walking the same direction as me as it was a dark part of the high street and didn't want to approach as there weren't many other people around. They went down a street and then came back, when they were coming back I thought "fuck it" and approached them. I went to the brunette and said I think she looked gorgeous, to which she unenthusiastically uttered "thanks" and walked off. It was a blowout. Maybe they were a bit young, I don't know.
Approach 9
I approached a 2 set who turned out to be from a neighbouring town who were on their way to the train station. They had to catch their last train back They were from the town town where I got into a confrontation with the bouncer for approaching girls that he thought were too young for me to approach. Although I haven't been officially banned, I haven't been back since.
Anyway, this set seemed somewhat receptive, but I cut the interaction short because 1. I was starting to run out of things to say and I could feel the creepy feeling creeping up and 2. My bus was due in 7 minutes and it was the last bus of the night. If I missed it, I would be sleeping in the gym, which would get me banned again as I've only just renewed my membership with a new account.
Well, I am missing 3 approaches. I can assure you guys, I did 12 in total, including the 2 in the venue, so 10 in the street. But I am missing 3 of them.
The missing approaches were probably a couple of brief blowouts as well.
My observations from last night
It seems like you can't really approach under the radar in certain venues. By making even 1 approach you are inviting the spotlight onto yourself.
I find nightgame to be generally a hostile atmosphere, it's very bleak and unforgiving. I honestly can't see how you can get laid like this. The only good thing is the volume and the fact that you know everyone is 18+ so it takes that variable out of it and therefore you can approach more with less hesitation.
I couldn't approach 12 sets in 75 minutes during daygame even if I approached every girl where I couldn't tell how old they were and approached in all sorts of awkward situations like in shops or when they were talking in the phone, carrying loads of shopping, browsing the ladies section in a clothes shop, etc.
So night game (gutter game) is better for volume and approach opportunities than daygame but the trouble is I seem to have little in common with them. They are so preoccupied with venues, alcohol and generally being up their own asses that I can't compete with at that.
And then you of course have venues which hold a lot of people but have security interfering with the approaches. I really can't see how I can pull anything off in this environment at all.
The timing is also very inconvenient and down right unpleasant as we head into the cold, wet and dark winter months. There is nothing I like more than being tucked up cosily in bed at night. Not walking up and down the highstreet getting rejected.
I feel like I am going to start winding down night game but I don't have anything else to replace it with. Daygame simply doesn't provide the volume of hotties that night game does. However, I would welcome not having my sleep disrupted and the anxiety of going out at night.
Any tips etc would be greatly appreciated. I really do wonder how people here are approaching and the reactions they get compared to mine.
I still can't find any coach who coaches night game although I do have some daygame coaching planned soon.
