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Handling inner game/mental aspect of going for girls you want despite unfavorable circumstances.

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Happy New Years everyone, hope you got wasted out of your mind and forgot what you did last night like I did! 2020 is going to be one special year no doubt.

For anyone who can answer my question at the end on inner game or at least try to answer it, I'll give you a like since you actually added positive value to the discussion.

One thing I did in 2020 is make travel arrangements for the summer for a couple of countries with cool shit to do, some of the hottest women out there, and where sexy men of my kind of look are famously known to get laid a lot. Definitely looking forward to it and I know the lay reports are going to be insane, even better than my time in France, but another thing about game, traveling, and sex has been going through my mind which made me post this thread. I passed up on a couple of countries I wanted to try out because of what I heard but I realize I need some inner game help anyways.

So a lot has been going through my head lately about this aspect of game lately but instead of me putting my thoughts into this, I am going to ask the question and then ask how you guys would handle the inner game aspect of it.

Here is the scenario.

You have a "thing" or as some say a "type" when it comes to women. For this question, let's keep the type to her appearance. Maybe it is a certain ethnicity of women or certain "look" (dark-haired girls with tans, tall blondes, etc.); we are going to keep personality, career, and all that out of it. Let's just say type being if you see a woman with that look, at first sight, you are getting as hard as a rock.

Your goal involves fucking a lot of beautiful women with this kind of a look.

Here is the thing, when it comes to the types of men these women (or women from backgrounds where this look is super common) go crazy for, you do not fit that look. The kind of guy they finger themselves to in private want to be fucked by in their dreams? You're far away from that. You hear about the kinds of men who have an easy time getting laid in her home country and with girls like her, you are far from that. It is well known that men of your type are not seen as a sexual option.

As a matter of fact, in their culture, a man like you is seen as unsexy and at the mercy of a lot of bad stereotypes. In her home country, if you were to travel there, someone like you would be at the end of a lot of prejudice, associated with being unsexy, and be seen as socially inferior from the start. In fact, men from her own country and men, in general, will warn you and blatantly let you know that you practically have no shot of doing well with these kinds of women.

The thing is, you want to fuck a lot of beautiful women with this kind of a look because they really get your dick hard.

For those of you willing to tackle this question and are experts, how would you handle the inner game and mental aspect of this while keeping your ego, pride, confidence, and dignity intact?

Would you just say fuck it and not even bother with girls of that background/look?

If you do actually chase her, what would your thought process be like given all that is the case in that scenario?

How would you be taking the rejections and bad experiences you run into as you chase women of that type?
 

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@Oh Pry dude! You have asked this question a couple times but each time is worded slightly differently. I haven't had your experience so I can't see things from your perspective but you seem very stuck on this. The big thing I get from this thread is your perspective is wrong dude. Maybe its how I have read it?? but it sounds like another thing of all blondes hate me, but should I go for it anyway?

How do you know all blondes/strawberryblondes/brunettes/bald girls hate you? Will make life difficult? Lets keep looks out of this, because unless you approach every strawberryblonde in the world an get rejected I don't believe that they all don't like you! your asking about race an specific locations. Spanish people hate me because am not socially accepted there? possibly has more weight to it.

Getting to the right perspective, because of their environment it might be told to them that ya not an option but that doesn't mean its biological. If you offer value, can be discreet and seem cool enough they will sleep with you regardless. Yeah you might be gaming from a harder starting point but small guys will complain about height, that's the hand ya have been dealt so you best learn how to play it...

Number 1: ASSUME ATTRACTION and go for it! nothing ventured nothing gained, if you don't say hi how will you know how receptive they are? How fucking confident do you have to be to approach!! believe in yourself and give it a shot dude.

Number 2: Her LOSS not MINE! you do you, bring your value to the table and don't overthink it.
I was going to post a thread saying approach the girls you want/think you have no chance with/are intimidated by. I recall 4 girls I thought were well out of my league, was so intimidated by how good looking they were and thought I had no chance. One of these gave me an AI which gave me the confidence I needed to approach, one gave an IOI which gave me the confidence to approach the other 2 were just cold straight up. I was successful with all 4 girls........It goes to show you that you need to take that first step and you never know. (For what its worth I reckon you have much better game than I have)

Number 3: How do you handle any rejection? its depends on the rejection itself. Some are harsh, they're harder to play of. Bad experiences you know your on an uphill battle anyway, this should actually give you confidence an motivate you that you have fuck all too lose dude! if ya at the bottom of the social pile you can only go up! Handle each experience as it comes, but go in with a positive attitude.

Remember girls are empathetic so if you go in negative they will feed from this energy. Its why guys that are bitter towards girls suck so bad! There game is shit an the girls don't like their presence. DONT BE THIS GUY!!!

I hope this helps! Only like this post if you think it benefits ya dude!
 

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@Fluxcapacitor

You got a like from me for sure and think of it as more country and culture-oriented than more looks oriented based on just her appearance.

You do make a great point about girls being empathetic and picking up on things so that might have to do with it too. I think the second I started to lose my insecurities and bitter attitudes towards blondes, it ended in me having a good experience with them and also getting some mad IOIs. Women are much more intuitive and empathetic so no doubt that plays a role.

For me though, I think ego, validation, and pride stand in the way of my mindset. I like women that actually like me, women from backgrounds I get with a lot, I tend to almost love those backgrounds and cultures by default because I feel like it is more than sex. I feel like if I was to go out to conquer the world (not literally but more figuratively), them and their sisters would be in my corner rooting hard for me.

As much as I am admitting my weakness here, I love it when women like me and I get those warm IOIs. Rarely have I gone much after a girl who has had a mean face or acted very dry, dismissive, and lacked that attraction to me.

Mentally for me I feel like I would have a tough pill to swallow to think that I am not viewed well by her culture, that she is likely to drop me for a guy who is viewed as that culture's sex symbol image, and that I am having to work harder to get her compared to a guy who has an easier time and better reception from the get-go. In some ways I crave that validation and the idea of being liked by women, it's a one of a kind feeling.

It could also be a development thing in that I am naturally progressing and need to keep getting good until I get to that phase.

I have been with over 100 different women but I feel like I still love the path of least resistance. I don't look to tougher tasks or uphill battles such as countering her objections or having to take on a tough challenge as worth it.

Maybe once I have hit a hot streak again, had a good run, and reached a certain level, I almost welcome the challenges. At that point, maybe I do try out a country where men of my appearance have a bad image and then game there anyways to test myself.
 

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@Oh Pry dude! Ego, pride an validation always get in the way. Sometimes its hard to put that to one side. Everyone likes girls that like them, especially if you have a "love at first sight" moment with them. There is something about that type of connection where ya both know you like each other, you know its on and the moments are incredible. This is possibly the thing I crave more than anything, getting girls like this.

What you have described is a positive feedback loop, the more success you have an the better times you have with something the more you will bounce to it. Its why social media is addictive, its ya hunter gatherer brain saying ohh this is good lets remember where this is. So when you want that fix you go back to that spot to get it. That's usually how guys develop "types" that they go for. They get good experiences with girls like that and so usually are more attracted to them. This isn't a bad thing because again they will pick up on your positive energy and good attitude towards them.

I think we all love warm AIs and IOIs. It screens out a lot of shit for ya and you know its worth trying. Its sniper/screening game an it makes life easier, ya will always get a higher success rate if you pick good battlefields.... I'm not so much into trying on dismissive girls but I do like my fun to win girls. A lot of my successes come from girls playing the game giving token resistance an objections. I actually find this fun and the pay off is amazing. I love taking these girls an getting them to dote on you. A few times in the past couple years I have had really loving/caring/doting/affectionate/cute girls and there friends find it weird to see them like that. I only know them to be like that cause they've clearly submitted to me which you know they haven't felt like that towards anyone else. That is a great feeling ;)

Don't swallow that pill dude, if ya only going for a SDL SNL - ONS it doesn't matter. Besides once ya have slept with her an ya do it consistently she's gonna submit to you an it will be harder for her to drop you. Constantly deliver an she doesn't need to look for an upgrade..... Ya may have to work a little harder, but if ya used to it or ya good enough this wouldn't even seem like effort. I feel everyone craves validation. Its a nice feeling, it boosts ya confidence. Thats why having girls already in rotation sets ya up great an gives ya a lot of momentum. There's a lot that goes into this. All little pieces that fit together.

Law of least effort will always take you to the path of least resistance. Work smarter not harder dude!! Ya need to have some work ethic to get the reference points to be able to work smarter though. I don't actively look for challenges but when I get them I can find them very fun. Especially on a night with limited options, ya either winning or ya learning....

Again I can't relate to ya with the whole bad image thing, A havn't had ya life experience an don't see your perspective. But if ya wanna go somewhere cause ya like the women or just cause ya wanna go there don't let anything stop you dude! just go for a week or two. If ya totally suck an ya can't seduce ya could still have a great time travelling. An even if ya only get 1, its a fucking fun to win one! Think outside ya current frame, its ya mindset that you need to overcome before you can move beyond your self imposed limited beliefs dude!
 

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Damn @Fluxcapacitor as good as your post was my dude, the constant use of "ya" just throws it all off. You either sound like some dude high as fuck or a Jamaican lol! No offense at all but like deserved since you did post content.

I think developing types is deeper than that, we just subconsciously seem to be attracted to a certain kind of look in a woman. In my view, I think that it depends partially on the kinds of women we grew up around and saw a lot in media. For me, I know my type kept varying. I used to like hot blondes a lot since where I grew up, having one was a symbol of status and being a top dog alpha male. I also had crushes on some blondes growing up.

I later developed a thing for tanned brunettes because I slept with so many, I think it was when I slept with the 20th girl with that look, my dick got an addiction and it worked out since quite a few love me too. From there, having had enough of them, I developed a thing for Latinas where I am at now lol.
 
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Types are developed by positive reinforcement and your surroundings. If you didn't like Asian girls but went to Asia for an extended period of time you would become attracted to them because that would become the new standard. So yeah this is what you grew up around and seen in the media etc cause its the image an perception of beauty.

You will naturally be attracted to something but nurture will play a role in this as this is human nature. You want sex, you want to reproduce and so your mind would fix that.

You've just described how blondes were the huge social stimulus, and how with repetitive positive reinforcement you favoured dark haired girls. I'm not sure where the latin thing has developed from, media? an extension of your surroundings or whether it just ties into the dark hair and other things that you would naturally classify as beautiful.

Also consider science also dictates you will typically find girls who look a little like you (similar features) attractive and you can see this with a lot of couples.....
 

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I think it is a weird thing on how a guy and his "type" develops. Like for a guy like me, I feel like it is a mismatch of ego and sex drive. I could say that on one hand it is pure looks, maybe we naturally get more attracted to one look than another. A while back I read a psychology study that says men love women who remind them of their mothers so perhaps that could play a role. Then I have also read that opposites attract in the sense that a guy who is darker will love blondes while a guy who is lighter will love tanned women.

I feel like it is a culmination of it all.

For me, positive reinforcement from certain types of women makes a huge difference and makes me like them even more. I remember back in the day I used to be scared shitless of blonde white girls that were hot. Now? I go to a nightclub or bar and I see them almost like clowns in a way, even if they are bitchy it is funny to me.
 

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Blondes like me for some reason (I'm Mexican). I don't go looking for them though. I prefer my own race. But whatever, I don't really care what race they are only that they are DTF and cute/hot.
 

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Blondes like me for some reason (I'm Mexican). I don't go looking for them though. I prefer my own race. But whatever, I don't really care what race they are only that they are DTF and cute/hot.

Lately I am seeing it more, blonde girls really do like ethnic dudes these days but don't wanna turn it into a race thread. On the other hand, I got a weakness for them Latinas!

The thing is at the same time, I hate putting myself in situations of weakness or where my ego can take a hit lol.
 

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The thing is at the same time, I hate putting myself in situations of weakness or where my ego can take a hit lol.

You kinda have to if you're in this game. Rejection is part of it. If I wanted to not put myself in situations of weakness I'd stay at home and play video games like some of my coworkers. I would be safe but clueless though...
 

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You kinda have to if you're in this game. Rejection is part of it. If I wanted to not put myself in situations of weakness I'd stay at home and play video games like some of my coworkers. I would be safe but clueless though...

I get what you are saying but I guess mentally when you have had good experiences and references points with certain kinds of women, it means less when you get rejected, you can just laugh it off. On the flip side if there are cultural biases from women of certain backgrounds that make them look down on men like you, well you tend to already start off a few steps back.
 

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I get what you are saying but I guess mentally when you have had good experiences and references points with certain kinds of women, it means less when you get rejected, you can just laugh it off. On the flip side if there are cultural biases from women of certain backgrounds that make them look down on men like you, well you tend to already start off a few steps back.

Yeah I would say that's true for me. Good experiences definitely made me see them as just another type of girls to deal with. Like I said, I prefer my own race but if they want me I'm going to roll the dice...
 

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Yeah I would say that's true for me. Good experiences definitely made me see them as just another type of girls to deal with. Like I said, I prefer my own race but if they want me I'm going to roll the dice...

Same here, a tough situation to tangle with.
 
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