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Handling intimidation
230421 Friday
Context
Currently I'm going out to daygame once a week and I'm constantly trying out new locations.
This is a new location that I noticed by inspecting Google maps and seeing 2 shopping malls 2 'blocks' (this is Asia) away from each other surrounded and separated by very dense blocks of apartments so the density here is really high. There are many bus stops, taxi stands, a bus terminal, and even an underground subway station that leads out into this area.
It's currently my second time at this location. The first time I came here was the Friday of the previous week.
Starting out
I would usually take the family car and drive it to whichever daygame location I am going to whenever I go out to daygame.
That evening my Dad suddenly said he needed it so I took an Uber. I get to the location at 8pm and plan to game until 10pm.
The boring stuff and the build up to the main event
The daygame goes as usual. I do 8 approaches where I reasonably get the girl to start listening to me but get no phone numbers.
I am at the cheaper of the 2 malls and I see a cute girl in a dress and a T-shirt walking on the opposite side of the street. I'm at a traffic crossing waiting for the red man to turn green so I mentally prepare to run after this girl because I know she'd be quite far away from me by the time I crossed the street
Approach 9
I run up to this girl from quite a distance a way and up a slight uphill slope and wave at her from the side. The pavement is not well lit but the place where I approach her is within hearing distance from a bright bus stop where there are people sitting so I reckon it wouldn't be a problem. I tell her I thought I would meet someone new and she does not comply when I ask for her name.
Intermittent events and approach 10
I notice that she has an interesting accent so I ask her about whether she's from this country and she says no but didn't tell me where she was from when I asked. It was quite a short and awkward interaction where I tried to think of different questions to get compliance. I finally ask her whether I am making her uncomfortable and she says yes so I turn in the opposite direction, walk away about 5-10 meters and lean on a railing to inspect my shoe. During our interaction, she does mention something about her parents.
After waiting for her to walk off, I carry on walking in the direction that the girl went and return back to a casual loop around the neighbourhood that I had assumed the pattern of walking in over the past 8 approaches. Walking in that direction, I see approach9 on the opposite side of the street and probably with her parents (A man and a woman)
I carry on walking in my circuit and reach a large open aired square on the opposite side of one of the malls. I don't do any approaches until then and by now I had already forgotten about approach9. However, I suddenly notice her and her parents again standing 10 metres from behind me while I stand still and look out for more girls to talk to. I didn't think much of my observation and moved a distance of about 20-30 metres away to lean on a railing in case I was making her uncomfortable.
While leaning on this railing, I notice another cute short girl at a bus stop on the opposite side of the square. I approach her and although I don't get any results, I am happy that I do the approach and keep my cool completely while doing it because there are a lot of people watching me at the bus stop. I walk away from the bus stop and start walking back across the open-air square on the trail of another hot girl that I just noticed walking across the square.
The main event
As I cross the square, a man that I do not quite recognise the look of approaches me and stops me:
I realise that I should not actually let him call the police because then my parents would find out, this would spell the end of my journey as a student of seduction and all the great plans I have for myself once I get a stable job and have my own money to move out of my parents place and maybe have my own studio, and given that I am focussing on my career right now I cannot afford to be wasting time on some time-consuming investigation.
I couldn't simply walk away from him because he approached me in the middle of the square with a lot of eyes on us. He could simply scream that I was a criminal who was running away so I realised that that course of action would only make the situation worse. So I made the right move in staying there and facing up to him
Up until now, I hated that middle school teacher for threatening to call the police on me and intimidating me as a young child. Now, I'm grateful it happened, cos it taught me how to react here. You saved my ass, sir.
So there is now a conversational deadlock with him continuing to ask me questions. I recall the situation that I have been in before where a security guard at a university campus was trying to intimidate me for approaching girls in the middle of last year shortly after I began my journey in seduction. I open my phone's recorder app with the intention of recording our conversation and start recording our conversation without saying anything to him.
At this point in time, I was honestly in fear and trauma. The moment I start recording the conversation, I realised that it was a bad idea so I immediately pressed the stop button. Threatening him would only make him more agitated, which would put me at greater risk. It was at this point that I realised that my only way out was to make clear to him that I had not done anything wrong, and explain the situation firmly and clearly to him.
I ask him for his name and he tells me his full name. He then asks me what my name is and I sincerely and honestly tell him my full name. He asks me more questions agressively to which I respond to him with enough information but not too much information. I tell him that sometimes it is impossible for me to know and that I am honestly not approaching underage girls. At first, he doesn't believe me, he reveals and mentions that he even took a video of me approaching an underage girl. (Looking back at this now, he must've taken a video of me doing approach 10 that I wrote about above. She was quite a short girl so he must've assumed that she was underage too. She was not. Approach 10 was a university student)
I tell him that he is making me uncomfortable by asking me so many questions. He tells me that that is what I make young and underaged girls feel. He tells me that he is trying to make me feel exactly that.
The conversation ends with him trying to intimidate me to stay away from this neighbourhood.
We both walk in opposite directions.
Seeing the dude again, switching places, and damage control
I feel significantly intimidated by what just happened but I was pretty confident that he wasn't going to call the police since he seemed to have lost his cool quite honestly at the end of our conversation. I go to some railing and lean on it for a minute and refrain from crank my head to search for his whereabout
I simply walk to the other side of the nearest mall and start to look for more girls to approach and get back into the circuit that I was initially walking in prior to the incident with the man. I don't feel too bad about doing more approaches but didn't see any I particularly felt like doing so I ended up doing only one more approach before I had walked full circuit and was heading back to the side of the neighbourhood where the man stopped me the first time.
On the path to the square, I see the the man and his wife standing in the middle of the path as if waiting for me, staring right at me as I walk straight down the path towards him. I once again feel slightly intimidated. I decide to speak to him once again. I reach 1-2 metres away from him and a short conversation ensues between me and him while his wife keeps silent:
So he probably realised that I'm walking in some kind of circuit around the neighbourhood. I feel that I'm just going to keep running into his stalking if I stay in this neighbourhood and there would be a greater risk of 3rd party involvement so as soon as I walk out of his line of vision I get down into the subway station and start taking the subway line towards the part of town where I live
The 2nd encounter with the man actually intimdated me more than the first. It was by then 930-945 and normally I would have to finish the daygame session by 10pm. I recall the advice that Chase had given on Lofty's journal to keep PTSD to a minimum so I decide to extend my daygame session to as long as I until I accumulated a total of 20 approaches that night.
I do some approaches at different subway stops that I am familiar with and also do some approaches in subway stations but not on carriages trying to prevent putting too much pressure on myself. By the time it turns 11pm, it feels as though most of the girls have gone home and it's a losing battle to find more girl to approach. The night ends with me reaching 19 approaches and me taking the subway to the nearest station to my house and walking home from there.
Recovery
Even though I felt horrible that night, the next time I went out again (lunchtime the next day) felt amazing even though I didn't do any approaches. It felt like someone deliberately tried to hurt me, I reacted to the situation calmly enough to make reasonably good moves to handle the situation, and I came out stronger because the next time this ever happens to me I'll be prepared. I forced the man to be honest with me and stood up for my own rights.
I actually really dodged a bullet this time as if I had really given the man the information about what school I was from or enough identifying information about myself, he could have really done some damage, and my parents would perhaps find out, and my parents' impression of me and my career may have gotten in jeopardy
Did TRE on Sunday evening and now it's Wednesday so doesn't feel like last Friday's incident had too much of an impact at all. Probably going to give up on testing that location for another 2-3 weeks. Don't want to think so much what happened until bad feelings die down after some time.
Lessons learnt
1. The "Nobody can hurt me" mindset
2. Positivity. I realise how lucky I was in how this was a point where things could have gone gravely haywire. I learnt to grateful for what I still have. I feel that this incident was a great gift. It pushed me to the brink but not over the edge. I will be more prepared to confront and avoid such high risk situations in the future.
230421 Friday
Context
Currently I'm going out to daygame once a week and I'm constantly trying out new locations.
This is a new location that I noticed by inspecting Google maps and seeing 2 shopping malls 2 'blocks' (this is Asia) away from each other surrounded and separated by very dense blocks of apartments so the density here is really high. There are many bus stops, taxi stands, a bus terminal, and even an underground subway station that leads out into this area.
It's currently my second time at this location. The first time I came here was the Friday of the previous week.
Starting out
I would usually take the family car and drive it to whichever daygame location I am going to whenever I go out to daygame.
That evening my Dad suddenly said he needed it so I took an Uber. I get to the location at 8pm and plan to game until 10pm.
The boring stuff and the build up to the main event
The daygame goes as usual. I do 8 approaches where I reasonably get the girl to start listening to me but get no phone numbers.
I am at the cheaper of the 2 malls and I see a cute girl in a dress and a T-shirt walking on the opposite side of the street. I'm at a traffic crossing waiting for the red man to turn green so I mentally prepare to run after this girl because I know she'd be quite far away from me by the time I crossed the street
Approach 9
I run up to this girl from quite a distance a way and up a slight uphill slope and wave at her from the side. The pavement is not well lit but the place where I approach her is within hearing distance from a bright bus stop where there are people sitting so I reckon it wouldn't be a problem. I tell her I thought I would meet someone new and she does not comply when I ask for her name.
Intermittent events and approach 10
I notice that she has an interesting accent so I ask her about whether she's from this country and she says no but didn't tell me where she was from when I asked. It was quite a short and awkward interaction where I tried to think of different questions to get compliance. I finally ask her whether I am making her uncomfortable and she says yes so I turn in the opposite direction, walk away about 5-10 meters and lean on a railing to inspect my shoe. During our interaction, she does mention something about her parents.
After waiting for her to walk off, I carry on walking in the direction that the girl went and return back to a casual loop around the neighbourhood that I had assumed the pattern of walking in over the past 8 approaches. Walking in that direction, I see approach9 on the opposite side of the street and probably with her parents (A man and a woman)
I carry on walking in my circuit and reach a large open aired square on the opposite side of one of the malls. I don't do any approaches until then and by now I had already forgotten about approach9. However, I suddenly notice her and her parents again standing 10 metres from behind me while I stand still and look out for more girls to talk to. I didn't think much of my observation and moved a distance of about 20-30 metres away to lean on a railing in case I was making her uncomfortable.
While leaning on this railing, I notice another cute short girl at a bus stop on the opposite side of the square. I approach her and although I don't get any results, I am happy that I do the approach and keep my cool completely while doing it because there are a lot of people watching me at the bus stop. I walk away from the bus stop and start walking back across the open-air square on the trail of another hot girl that I just noticed walking across the square.
The main event
As I cross the square, a man that I do not quite recognise the look of approaches me and stops me:
I realise that I should not actually let him call the police because then my parents would find out, this would spell the end of my journey as a student of seduction and all the great plans I have for myself once I get a stable job and have my own money to move out of my parents place and maybe have my own studio, and given that I am focussing on my career right now I cannot afford to be wasting time on some time-consuming investigation.
I couldn't simply walk away from him because he approached me in the middle of the square with a lot of eyes on us. He could simply scream that I was a criminal who was running away so I realised that that course of action would only make the situation worse. So I made the right move in staying there and facing up to him
Up until now, I hated that middle school teacher for threatening to call the police on me and intimidating me as a young child. Now, I'm grateful it happened, cos it taught me how to react here. You saved my ass, sir.
The conversation carries on with him asserting loudly that "I see you approaching all the young underage girls in this neighbourhood"
So there is now a conversational deadlock with him continuing to ask me questions. I recall the situation that I have been in before where a security guard at a university campus was trying to intimidate me for approaching girls in the middle of last year shortly after I began my journey in seduction. I open my phone's recorder app with the intention of recording our conversation and start recording our conversation without saying anything to him.
At this point in time, I was honestly in fear and trauma. The moment I start recording the conversation, I realised that it was a bad idea so I immediately pressed the stop button. Threatening him would only make him more agitated, which would put me at greater risk. It was at this point that I realised that my only way out was to make clear to him that I had not done anything wrong, and explain the situation firmly and clearly to him.
I ask him for his name and he tells me his full name. He then asks me what my name is and I sincerely and honestly tell him my full name. He asks me more questions agressively to which I respond to him with enough information but not too much information. I tell him that sometimes it is impossible for me to know and that I am honestly not approaching underage girls. At first, he doesn't believe me, he reveals and mentions that he even took a video of me approaching an underage girl. (Looking back at this now, he must've taken a video of me doing approach 10 that I wrote about above. She was quite a short girl so he must've assumed that she was underage too. She was not. Approach 10 was a university student)
I tell him that he is making me uncomfortable by asking me so many questions. He tells me that that is what I make young and underaged girls feel. He tells me that he is trying to make me feel exactly that.
The conversation ends with him trying to intimidate me to stay away from this neighbourhood.
We both walk in opposite directions.
Seeing the dude again, switching places, and damage control
I feel significantly intimidated by what just happened but I was pretty confident that he wasn't going to call the police since he seemed to have lost his cool quite honestly at the end of our conversation. I go to some railing and lean on it for a minute and refrain from crank my head to search for his whereabout
I simply walk to the other side of the nearest mall and start to look for more girls to approach and get back into the circuit that I was initially walking in prior to the incident with the man. I don't feel too bad about doing more approaches but didn't see any I particularly felt like doing so I ended up doing only one more approach before I had walked full circuit and was heading back to the side of the neighbourhood where the man stopped me the first time.
On the path to the square, I see the the man and his wife standing in the middle of the path as if waiting for me, staring right at me as I walk straight down the path towards him. I once again feel slightly intimidated. I decide to speak to him once again. I reach 1-2 metres away from him and a short conversation ensues between me and him while his wife keeps silent:
I walk past him
So he probably realised that I'm walking in some kind of circuit around the neighbourhood. I feel that I'm just going to keep running into his stalking if I stay in this neighbourhood and there would be a greater risk of 3rd party involvement so as soon as I walk out of his line of vision I get down into the subway station and start taking the subway line towards the part of town where I live
The 2nd encounter with the man actually intimdated me more than the first. It was by then 930-945 and normally I would have to finish the daygame session by 10pm. I recall the advice that Chase had given on Lofty's journal to keep PTSD to a minimum so I decide to extend my daygame session to as long as I until I accumulated a total of 20 approaches that night.
I do some approaches at different subway stops that I am familiar with and also do some approaches in subway stations but not on carriages trying to prevent putting too much pressure on myself. By the time it turns 11pm, it feels as though most of the girls have gone home and it's a losing battle to find more girl to approach. The night ends with me reaching 19 approaches and me taking the subway to the nearest station to my house and walking home from there.
Recovery
Even though I felt horrible that night, the next time I went out again (lunchtime the next day) felt amazing even though I didn't do any approaches. It felt like someone deliberately tried to hurt me, I reacted to the situation calmly enough to make reasonably good moves to handle the situation, and I came out stronger because the next time this ever happens to me I'll be prepared. I forced the man to be honest with me and stood up for my own rights.
I actually really dodged a bullet this time as if I had really given the man the information about what school I was from or enough identifying information about myself, he could have really done some damage, and my parents would perhaps find out, and my parents' impression of me and my career may have gotten in jeopardy
Did TRE on Sunday evening and now it's Wednesday so doesn't feel like last Friday's incident had too much of an impact at all. Probably going to give up on testing that location for another 2-3 weeks. Don't want to think so much what happened until bad feelings die down after some time.
Lessons learnt
1. The "Nobody can hurt me" mindset
2. Positivity. I realise how lucky I was in how this was a point where things could have gone gravely haywire. I learnt to grateful for what I still have. I feel that this incident was a great gift. It pushed me to the brink but not over the edge. I will be more prepared to confront and avoid such high risk situations in the future.
